Corona

[AlphaMale]

You guys need to make a damn gun thread and leave this Corona topic alone. Ridiculously off topic now for multiple pages.

 

[AlphaMale]

Now it's the gun and abortion thread instead of the intended topic CORONA.

[heavyharmonies]

16 minutes ago, AlphaMale said:

You guys need to make a damn gun thread and leave this Corona topic alone. Ridiculously off topic now for multiple pages.

 

 

15 minutes ago, AlphaMale said:

Now it's the gun and abortion thread instead of the intended topic CORONA.

Umm... this thread has been wandering off and back on topic forever. It will come back. Chill.

[AlphaMale]

9 minutes ago, heavyharmonies said:

 

Umm... this thread has been wandering off and back on topic forever. It will come back. Chill.

I was just trolling. LOL

[auslander]

Glen seems to have forgotten, in his pro-UK posts, that the US gun laws are in place originally due to the tyranny of his very nation and their crazy royals! Maybe stop it with your tyrannical monarchy first Mr Glen!!!

Yes, trolling 😉

[Geoff]

4 hours ago, AlphaMale said:

You guys need to make a damn gun thread and leave this Corona topic alone. Ridiculously off topic now for multiple pages.

 

Seems like corona is as relevant in this thread now as it is in the rest of the world. 

Except Australia, and China, I guess.

[Metal T]

10 hours ago, heavyharmonies said:

Yes, the "red flag laws". About half of the states have them. The problem with those laws is that they are based on the premise of confiscating someone's weapons based upon third-party reports and what someone MIGHT do in the future. The due process implications are murky. The thresholds and implementations vary greatly from state to state, and the burdens of evidence are frequently ignored under the premise of "better safe than sorry".

Also, like fake reports of rape, domestic violence, etc., they can be abused by someone with a grudge and it is darned near impossible for the accused to recover. They are put in a position of having to prove that they didn't or won't do something; you can't prove a negative. There are cases where falsely accused people who have had their guns confiscated fight for years to get them back. Technically, if someone has their guns confiscated based upon a false report, you've just violated their Second Amendment rights. Now what?

They also can be used by the state against people engaging in wrongthink, i.e., "extremists" if you post something on Reddit/Twitter/Instagram/etc. See the case of Lucas Gerhard in Michigan as an example of egregious governmental overreach; his life has been dstroyed.

As much as I favor state's rights, this is another are where I would prefer there to be a national standard rather than state by state.

However, all things considered, red flag laws are preferable to outright bans IMO. I don't agree with them, but they are the lesser of two evils. But at the end of the day, should there be a national red flag standard implemented, I don't believe that will stop the government from still trying to ban guns. It's the "nose under the camel's tent" concept: it's one thing if the limitations stop there, but we know they won't, so why agree to any proposed limitations knowing that they will just proceed further anyway?

 

https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2019/09/04/red-flag-laws-spur-debate-over-due-process

Also, red flag laws are not a magic bullet (pardon the pun):

https://www.thetrace.org/2022/05/buffalo-shooting-red-flag-law-new-york/

As I mentioned earlier, it doesn't matter how strict the laws are if you're not going to bother enforcing them. Then all you're doing is restricting the rights of law-abiding citizens... which is IMO what the Left actually wants. It's outright ban/confiscation under the guise and illusion of public safety.

No way in eternal HELL should Guns be left up to a national standard.Do you wanna a useless slug like Chuck Schmuer (D) (as in D'BAG) dictating your gun rights? They pull that crap and you will see another shooting civil war as sure as the sun rises in the east.

Abortion and f@g marriage should also be left to the states....

[Metal T]

9 hours ago, Dead Planet said:

Every law abiding gun owning American should pray that something happens to slow down these mass shootings because eventually the majority of Americans are going to get to a tipping point where they will not only accept restrictions and bans but they will demand them....

And what happens in the US always affects what happens here in Canada....for example our idiot PM using the Texas massacre as an excuse to bring more gun restrictions.....

What a load of horse sh!t!

They can demand anything they like if they don't like the 2nd amendment they can feel free to try and do a convention of states to remove it,good luck with all of that!

Worry about your own PM tyrant..stop freaking preaching to us.

[Metal T]

4 hours ago, auslander said:

Glen seems to have forgotten, in his pro-UK posts, that the US gun laws are in place originally due to the tyranny of his very nation and their crazy royals! Maybe stop it with your tyrannical monarchy first Mr Glen!!!

Yes, trolling 😉

Not really,you're absolutely right.Worthless Brit redcoats were the reason we had to begin with.

Well,they came over and got their asses collectively kicked.

[Glen]

8 hours ago, Metal T said:

Not really,you're absolutely right.Worthless Brit redcoats were the reason we had to begin with.

Well,they came over and got their asses collectively kicked.

one of the most moronic statements I've read on this forum in 15 yrs 

[Glen]

9 hours ago, auslander said:

Glen seems to have forgotten, in his pro-UK posts, that the US gun laws are in place originally due to the tyranny of his very nation and their crazy royals! Maybe stop it with your tyrannical monarchy first Mr Glen!!!

Yes, trolling 😉

yes 250 yrs ago 🙄

[auslander]

4 hours ago, Glen said:

yes 250 yrs ago 🙄

Dude. It was a joke. Remember, guns don't kill people, mean comments in forums do.

[Dead Planet]

6 hours ago, Glen said:

one of the most moronic statements I've read on this forum in 15 yrs 

Wasting your time responding to a troll or an 8 year...could be either or both....

[nyoilers]

I've avoided this thread for an entire weekend......

[Glen]

28 minutes ago, nyoilers said:

I've avoided this thread for an entire weekend......

getting yr post count up

 

[Geoff]

[nyoilers]

23 hours ago, Glen said:

getting yr post count up

 

I figured that I should get involved and end all this discussion and focus on things that are really important.

[nyoilers]

On 6/6/2022 at 3:37 AM, Glen said:

one of the most moronic statements I've read on this forum in 15 yrs 

I can't say that this is the most amusing post I've ever read but I do find humor in it !

[Stefan]

3 hours ago, nyoilers said:

 end all this discussion and focus on things that are really important.

Like staying away from this forum? 

[auslander]

[AlphaMale]

1 hour ago, auslander said:

I'd like to quarantine with her!

[nyoilers]

20 hours ago, Stefan said:

Like staying away from this forum? 

I am going on vacation soon so I don't want anyone to worry if I don't post every day.

Reception on the beach is usually bad.

[AlphaMale]

On 6/7/2022 at 6:18 PM, auslander said:

The coochie mask would defintely be on my face. 

[AlphaMale]

Now they are trying to vaccinate little babies. WTF? Is that really neccessary? Aren't the youngest of the young safe from serious complications from covid??

COVID-19 Vaccines for Kids Under 5: What Parents Need To Know > News > Yale Medicine

[Originally published: June 17, 2022. Updated: June 19, 2022]

After multiple delays, very young children are finally eligible for COVID-19 vaccination. In mid-June, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) granted emergency use authorization (EUA) to Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine for children ages 6 months to 5 years, as well as to Moderna's vaccine for kids ages 6 months to 6 years. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) soon after recommended the vaccines, which should become available early next week.

While some parents have been counting down the days and are eager to vaccinate their kids, others are hesitant and have lingering questions: Are the vaccines safe? How effective are they, especially against Omicron? Should a child who recently had COVID-19 get vaccinated?

Vaccination uptake in young children has not been high to date. Nationally only about 29% of children ages 5 to 11 are fully vaccinated, according to the CDC. This compares to a vaccination rate of 60% among kids ages 12 to 17. There are roughly 18 million children under the age of 5 in the United States. 

Leslie Sude, MD, a Yale Medicine pediatrician, says opening vaccination to this younger group is yet another way to manage the pandemic to make everyone safer. 

“While a significant proportion of the population was not eligible for vaccination, there was still the opportunity for widespread circulation of COVID among children, who could then keep transmitting it to older people,” she says. “And as long as the virus spreads from person to person, the virus can keep changing and evolving into new variants.” 

To answer parents’ questions about vaccinating young children, we talked with Dr. Sude and Thomas Murray, MD, PhD, a pediatric infectious diseases specialist.  

[AlphaMale]