auslander Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 It's been a long time since the last Journey album. I am feeling really sad that everyone thinks this one sucks so much. Maybe I won't get it at all based on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavyharmonies Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, auslander said: It's been a long time since the last Journey album. I am feeling really sad that everyone thinks this one sucks so much. Maybe I won't get it at all based on this. I would say definitely preview on Spotify (assuming the album is available in Australia) or another service first, especially if it's going to be pricey for you to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobi is an animal Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 album is coma inducing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobi is an animal Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/9/2022 at 7:37 PM, AlphaMale said: Andrew loves it LOL 92??? I'd give it a 29!!! JOURNEY - Freedom (Album Review, 2022) - MelodicRock.com yea but he's an unapologetic journey nut swinger, who'd give a 90 to an album of Pineda humming over Schon's blowing sounds while on the toilet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 First journey album I refuse to buy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 I like the first half quite a lot, then the skip button comes in handy on tracks 9-11. The rest are ok and I like 'Beautiful As You Are' a lot, so generally it gets a thumbs up, but points deducted for being 3 or 4 tracks too long and some 'iffy' production/ mixing moments. Way from their best, but no disaster to my ears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jez said: I like the first half quite a lot, then the skip button comes in handy on tracks 9-11. The rest are ok and I like 'Beautiful As You Are' a lot, so generally it gets a thumbs up, but points deducted for being 3 or 4 tracks too long and some 'iffy' production/ mixing moments. Way from their best, but no disaster to my ears iffy?? it's appalling. I tried to listen again earlier but it's almost demo like in places. unforgiveable for a band of this stature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 I listened to new degreed after and for a recording on a fraction of the budget it sounds a million times better. it's like Schon asked for a raw live sound like infinity / departure and they fucked it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 7/8/2022 at 10:26 PM, tts42572 said: I feel like if this was some other band not titled "Journey" then nobody would even bother with it. Truest statement in this thread. I don't want to come in as someone who's not a mad Journey fan at the best of times and surprise surprise I don't like it, but genuinely surprised to see any even half hearted praise for the album. I thought it was a disgrace, to be totally fair. 'You Got The Best Of Me' and 'Don't Go' are nice tunes to my ears, and 'Live to love again' is a pretty decent ballad and 'Don't Give Up On Us' isn't too far off the mark. But the rest, I do not care for one bit at all. As noted many times, it sounds like a smacked sac, and further to the dreadful production, some of the musicality, to me, just sounds off. I assume everything on this album is intentional, but so much of it just sounds really bad to me. Some of the song writing you'd not expect from one's worst nightmare, let alone a band of this stature. Anyway, good luck to anyone who likes it. I thought 'Eclipse' was really good and would have loved to hear something of that quality, but this is just bad, in my opinion, of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Little Pony KarpetRydOFunk Posted July 18, 2022 My Little Pony Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 7 hours ago, Geoff said: Anyway, good luck to anyone who likes it. I thought 'Eclipse' was really good and would have loved to hear something of that quality, but this is just bad, in my opinion, of course. And we all hold your opinion in such high regard. ;} 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted July 19, 2022 Report Share Posted July 19, 2022 12 hours ago, KarpetRydOFunk said: And we all hold your opinion in such high regard. ;} Likewise, my furry friend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auslander Posted July 19, 2022 Report Share Posted July 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Geoff said: Likewise, my furry friend. Well I never knew that Karpet was a furry. But it does make sense 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auslander Posted July 19, 2022 Report Share Posted July 19, 2022 I have read some reviews that suggest people who hear bad production might be listening to compressed audio files from spotify and not a cd on a decent high-end stereo. Apparently this issue is very noticeable on the YouTube files as well. It may be the reason why people are hearing different things regarding the production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobi is an animal Posted July 19, 2022 Report Share Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) On 7/8/2022 at 9:26 AM, tts42572 said: I feel like if this was some other band not titled "Journey" then nobody would even bother with it. On 7/18/2022 at 10:35 AM, Geoff said: Truest statement in this thread. yea, I feel like this sentiment could also be applied to the latest Def Leppard album as well. Edited July 19, 2022 by tobi is an animal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Gold Donors nyoilers Posted July 19, 2022 2023 Gold Donors Report Share Posted July 19, 2022 3 hours ago, auslander said: Well I never knew that Karpet was a furry. But it does make sense 🤔 All 12.4K posts of his are quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auslander Posted July 19, 2022 Report Share Posted July 19, 2022 5 hours ago, tobi is an animal said: On 7/8/2022 at 9:26 AM, tts42572 said: I feel like if this was some other band not titled "Journey" then nobody would even bother with it. yea, I feel like this sentiment could also be applied to the latest Def Leppard album as well. Yeah and some people slobber over Avantafantasia and the latest Reckless Love, so there is no accounting for taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 3 hours ago, auslander said: Yeah and some people slobber over Avantafantasia and the latest Reckless Love, so there is no accounting for taste. Heck, the Journey Facebook page, which is normally a cesspool of people complaining about Steve Perry being gone, is full of people raving about it. RAVING about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auslander Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 People may not believe me but I have experimented. I have had my wife play me a few songs of an album I own on her Spotify. It sounded average. I then played the same via cd on my hifi and it was amazing. I'm not even an audiophile but complex production sounds crap via streaming. It just does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavyharmonies Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 3 hours ago, auslander said: I'm not even an audiophile but complex production sounds crap via streaming. It just does. Going to disagree slightly: To SOME people, CERTAIN streaming options sound like crap. 1. Not all streaming/download platforms sound the same. They all have varying levels of compression, bandwidth, rendering, etc. Spotify is not the same as Youtube is not the same as Tidal is not the same as Amazon Music is not the same as Apple Music, etc. 2. Not everyone has the same level of aural acuity. This is especially true as we age and our hearing gets naturally worse. I know that personally with respect to treble, I cannot hear as well as I did 20 years ago. When I was making my assessments of this album they were done from lossless FLAC files ripped from CD. Any differences between that and a physical CD, playback stream of equipment notwithstanding, are utterly nominal. P.S. Fidelity and listening to a physical CD doesn't fix bland and boring. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Gold Donors Mr.AOR Posted July 20, 2022 2023 Gold Donors Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 The bottom line is you can use every imaginable trick in the book, but at the end of the day you can't polish a turd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric3 Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 On 7/19/2022 at 8:20 AM, auslander said: I have read some reviews that suggest people who hear bad production might be listening to compressed audio files from spotify and not a cd on a decent high-end stereo. Apparently this issue is very noticeable on the YouTube files as well. It may be the reason why people are hearing different things regarding the production. This is a very common excuse these days. If something sounds bad they just say it's YouTube compressing the file. Which technically does happen but alone should not be the reason for what is actually poor mixing. Also, if these streaming platforms are so prevalent, why not try to adjust for that in the recording process? Not everyone is going to be able to listen on a hi-def sound system... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 Sure - numerous other bands manage to not sound like they have awful production on YouTube or wherever but Journey is somehow uniquely impacted in that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invisible_man Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) On 6/7/2022 at 6:49 AM, Stefan said: Don't give up on them yet. New song ' Don't Give Up On Us'. Don't Give Up On Us is a good song! overall I liked the album, at least a strong 6 or even a 7. United We Stand, Together We Run, Live to Love Again, The Way We Used to Be, Don't Go are some other standouts imho Edited July 23, 2022 by Invisible_man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Little Pony KarpetRydOFunk Posted July 23, 2022 My Little Pony Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 On 7/20/2022 at 4:48 PM, Eric3 said: Also, if these streaming platforms are so prevalent, why not try to adjust for that in the recording process? Not everyone is going to be able to listen on a hi-def sound system... Makes sense. Mastering for an LP was different than mastering for a CD. Not sure if they master differently for streaming services, or not, but you would think they should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-BONE Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 I finally got a chance to listen to this album on a long drive home last night. My vehicle has a decent sound system in it so I cranked it to a respectable volume and I was pretty Blown Away and how poor the production was on this. Especially considering it is a journey album. The production I would say is a 3 out of 10 at best.... the songs were mostly unmemorable with only two or three that I kind of tapped my foot to.... mucho Sadness..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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