H.e.a.t - H.e.a.t II

[CureTheSane]

Butt Cream sales are gonna skyrocket because of HEAT.
Lots of butt-hurt people everywhere.
Some people can't move on/move backwards.
They couldn't move on with Warrant, Great White and Gotthard etc etc, so if that's you, may as well give up on HEAT now.

[Darkstone]

13 hours ago, CureTheSane said:

Butt Cream sales are gonna skyrocket because of HEAT.
Lots of butt-hurt people everywhere.
Some people can't move on/move backwards.
They couldn't move on with Warrant, Great White and Gotthard etc etc, so if that's you, may as well give up on HEAT now.

I dunno, I think the fact that they've reinstated their original vocalist makes it different from those other examples. 

If they had of recruited someone else, I could understand a certain amount of backlash, but I think on the whole this will be well received. 

The classy way it was handled helps.

Edited October 31, 2020 by Darkstone

[Glen]

who thinks Kenny should now re-record all the Erik albums just to complete Travis's nightmare

[tts42572]

1 hour ago, Glen said:

who thinks Kenny should now re-record all the Erik albums just to complete Travis's nightmare

They could do that but very few would sell 

[Geoff]

Wow, you don't look at a thread for a while and look what happens. Massive news in our little music world. 

I'm with the more level-headed in this thread, lol.

Thankfully, I've been a massive fan from day one and loved every album, to certain degrees, but I like the first two more than a couple with Erik. That said, I agree he was an awesome frontman and I loved the way they sounded with him. But that's also got to be taken into consideration. They're a very different band now. I have no doubt that Kenny will sound even better - before a song is even written - with the current sound/production the band is working with. It's a far cry form those first two innocently produced AOR albums. 

I personally think they'll pick up exactly where they left off, and truth be told, maybe even a more killer, direct melodic rock route that some of us who loved those first two albums so much won't mind hearing again. Like I said, I love what they do now but there's definitely stuff on those first two albums that's better than some stuff on recent albums. 

Sounds like it was all amicable and I for one will be happy to hear HEAT with Kenny, as well as whatever Erik does. His solo album before HEAT was killer and I have faith he'll continue making rock music, so bring it on. Hopefully we get two awesome CDs per year from these guys.

[Glen]

8 minutes ago, Geoff said:

Wow, you don't look at a thread for a while and look what happens. Massive news in our little music world. 

I'm with the more level-headed in this thread, lol.

Thankfully, I've been a massive fan from day one and loved every album, to certain degrees, but I like the first two more than a couple with Erik. That said, I agree he was an awesome frontman and I loved the way they sounded with him. But that's also got to be taken into consideration. They're a very different band now. I have no doubt that Kenny will sound even better - before a song is even written - with the current sound/production the band is working with. It's a far cry form those first two innocently produced AOR albums. 

I personally think they'll pick up exactly where they left off, and truth be told, maybe even a more killer, direct melodic rock route that some of us who loved those first two albums so much won't mind hearing again. Like I said, I love what they do now but there's definitely stuff on those first two albums that's better than some stuff on recent albums. 

Sounds like it was all amicable and I for one will be happy to hear HEAT with Kenny, as well as whatever Erik does. His solo album before HEAT was killer and I have faith he'll continue making rock music, so bring it on. Hopefully we get two awesome CDs per year from these guys.

that is a v valid point about production. Kenny with their updated sound could be pretty awesome.

There is no doubt that the debut with a 'Point of no Return' sound would be great. It always was a thin production 

[tts42572]

1 hour ago, Glen said:

that is a v valid point about production. Kenny with their updated sound could be pretty awesome.

There is no doubt that the debut with a 'Point of no Return' sound would be great. It always was a thin production 

I'll agree on the production....Maybe Kenny with their updated sound will sound better.

I tried again today to listen to those albums and just really struggling.  Basically, I think it's stuff I might've liked if I had really started getting into them back in 2008 when it first came out, but that's not when I caught wind of them.  I came on board when Address the Nation dropped and was blown away with what I heard.  I tried over the years to keep going back to listen to those Kenny albums and they just didn't compare for me.  To me, those albums sounded like a completely different band.  Now granted, I didn't give them a huge chance either because I figured they were done with that....so I didn't really bother with them much.

Now I listen to a song like the original version of Danger Road.  It sounds okay....But I can't help but think how much better I liked it when I'd hear Erik doing it live.  Same for many of the songs on those albums.  And I gave Kenny's solo album a try and couldn't make it through more than a couple songs before having to turn it off.  For me at least, just brutal.

I'll give the next album a chance just to see how it goes so not saying I've written them off completely yet. But for my tastes, Kenny will need to bring more grit and power to his vocals and they'll need to keep the "beefier" style to have a shot with me.  And I question if Kenny can sing that beefier style, if they even keep it.

I'll give it a fair shot though out of respect for Dave, Jimmy, Jona and Crash who are talented guys.  

 

[Glen]

3 minutes ago, tts42572 said:

I'll agree on the production....Maybe Kenny with their updated sound will sound better.

I tried again today to listen to those albums and just really struggling.  Basically, I think it's stuff I might've liked if I had really started getting into them back in 2008 when it first came out, but that's not when I caught wind of them.  I came on board when Address the Nation dropped and was blown away with what I heard.  I tried over the years to keep going back to listen to those Kenny albums and they just didn't compare for me.  To me, those albums sounded like a completely different band.  Now granted, I didn't give them a huge chance either because I figured they were done with that....so I didn't really bother with them much.

Now I listen to a song like the original version of Danger Road.  It sounds okay....But I can't help but think how much better I liked it when I'd hear Erik doing it live.  Same for many of the songs on those albums.  And I gave Kenny's solo album a try and couldn't make it through more than a couple songs before having to turn it off.  For me at least, just brutal.

I'll give the next album a chance just to see how it goes so not saying I've written them off completely yet. But for my tastes, Kenny will need to bring more grit and power to his vocals and they'll need to keep the "beefier" style to have a shot with me.  And I question if Kenny can sing that beefier style, if they even keep it.

I'll give it a fair shot though out of respect for Dave, Jimmy, Jona and Crash who are talented guys.  

 

mate, a fan boy like you might as well take it on the chin and move on.

nothing but Erik will ever satisfy you. enjoy the 4 albums and leave it at that. 

[KarpetRydOFunk]

20 hours ago, AlphaMale said:

But they aren't even half the band they used to be.

 

That's because Steve was one half of the writing duo. Kenny and Erik are just singers. Whether Kenny sings, or Erik sings, it doesn't change the quality of the songwriting.

And you guys are all acting as though Kenny was a horrible vocalist. That makes no fucking sense. I understand preferences, but, c'mon, you have to agree that Kenny is at least a capable singer. The band isn't suddenly gonna turn to dog shit with him behind the mic. 

[KarpetRydOFunk]

So much fuckin' drama in this thread. Oh, my. 

[KarpetRydOFunk]

3 hours ago, Geoff said:

I'm with the more level-headed in this thread, lol.

I think that might be the nicest thing you've ever said about me. 

[AlphaMale]

Now I can see how to get 10,000+ posts. Make 3 posts for something you could've said easily in one.

Well done karpetass

[AlphaMale]

I hope Kenny delivers the goods and all this talk is just talk.

I never said Kenny was a bad singer or songwriter.

I just never got into the band's first 2 albums. When Address The Nation came out, I was floored. 

[KarpetRydOFunk]

39 minutes ago, AlphaMale said:

Now I can see how to get 10,000+ posts. Make 3 posts for something you could've said easily in one.

Well done karpetass

 

15 minutes ago, AlphaMale said:

I hope Kenny delivers the goods and all this talk is just talk.

I never said Kenny was a bad singer or songwriter.

I just never got into the band's first 2 albums. When Address The Nation came out, I was floored. 

There you go. You're catching on!

[Glen]

42 minutes ago, AlphaMale said:

Now I can see how to get 10,000+ posts. Make 3 posts for something you could've said easily in one.

Well done karpetass

I did it too. but seriously does anyone give 2 shits about post count??

 

[AlphaMale]

1 minute ago, Glen said:

I did it too. but seriously does anyone give 2 shits about post count??

 

I was just messing with him. Chill out!

[Glen]

1 hour ago, KarpetRydOFunk said:

That's because Steve was one half of the writing duo. Kenny and Erik are just singers. Whether Kenny sings, or Erik sings, it doesn't change the quality of the songwriting.

And you guys are all acting as though Kenny was a horrible vocalist. That makes no fucking sense. I understand preferences, but, c'mon, you have to agree that Kenny is at least a capable singer. The band isn't suddenly gonna turn to dog shit with him behind the mic. 

this 

[Glen]

Just now, AlphaMale said:

I was just messing with him. Chill out!

 

[AlphaMale]

I like other's have tried those first 2 HEAT releases multiple times and I just don't like 'em that much. They aren't bad. His singing isn't bad. The production isn't the greatest.

I don't know who did the majority of the songwriting on those first two albums but the songs just aren't as catchy/memorable.

 

[Glen]

5 minutes ago, AlphaMale said:

I like other's have tried those first 2 HEAT releases multiple times and I just don't like 'em that much. They aren't bad. His singing isn't bad. The production isn't the greatest.

I don't know who did the majority of the songwriting on those first two albums but the songs just aren't as catchy/memorable.

 

yes they are. you a fool as Mr T used to say 

[AlphaMale]

[tts42572]

41 minutes ago, AlphaMale said:

I like other's have tried those first 2 HEAT releases multiple times and I just don't like 'em that much. They aren't bad. His singing isn't bad. The production isn't the greatest.

I don't know who did the majority of the songwriting on those first two albums but the songs just aren't as catchy/memorable.

 

I with you....exactly how I feel.  I feel like there's some good songs.  But the production on some of them makes them sound like 80's demos or something IMO.  

Of course Kenny isn't a bad signer.  

But he's definitely different than Erik and I guess that's my point.  And to me they are VERY different. 

Kenny to me made the band sound more like Survivor or Toto or something while Erik made them more like 80's Def Leppard/Warrant/Bon Jovi, etc IMO.  Almost sounds like two different bands in two different spots on the melodic rock spectrum.

It'll be interesting to see where everything goes from here and what sound the band tries to go with.  

 

[The Rocker]

7 hours ago, AlphaMale said:

I hope Kenny delivers the goods and all this talk is just talk.

I never said Kenny was a bad singer or songwriter.

I just never got into the band's first 2 albums. When Address The Nation came out, I was floored. 

This for me.    But I will absolutely give new songs/albums a go for sure

[AlphaMale]

1 minute ago, The Rocker said:

This for me.    But I will absolutely give new songs/albums a go for sure

Maybe the new HEAT will be killer with Kenny. Let's hope so!

Edited October 31, 2020 by AlphaMale

[Captain Howdy]

On 10/31/2020 at 7:32 AM, CureTheSane said:

Butt Cream sales are gonna skyrocket because of HEAT.
Lots of butt-hurt people everywhere.
Some people can't move on/move backwards.
They couldn't move on with Warrant, Great White and Gotthard etc etc, so if that's you, may as well give up on HEAT now.

What is it butt hurt with it if you never liked the original singer? Jesus, some people gotta be butt hurt when you dare make a criticism of H.E.A.T. that is for sure.