Lonnie Holdaway and the Hurricane CD reissues scam

[Widda]

I was wondering myself why he doesn't explain things on here.

[BrianJ8173]

You can't order anything anyways as the paypal account is locked.

[lovetoy]

I'm completely speechless over what's transpired recently with this guy. Although I didn't send him any funds for any of the Hurricane discs THANK GOD !!, I have purchased CDS/CDR from him before and he's never ripped me off. I sure hope everyone one get's their money back and that they throw the book at him once he's caught.

[rob62972]

Maybe he could also explain why Hurricane had no clue about these re-issues. One of his earlier posts says that he just talked to Kelly. Lies, lies, and more lies. It's all going to catch up to him. I see jail time in your future Mr. Holdaway. Don't drop the soap.

[HighNDryRulz]

Hey guys!! Have you noticed that the "cds-in-stock" portion of Lon's page is now back up?!?!?!?! Trying to get some last minute cash for the get-away?!?!?!

 

 

http://www.freewebs.com/lrc72316/cdsinstock.htm

 

This part of the website has been up a good part of the day. I was tracking it a good bit earlier in the day.

[heaven&hell]

Maybe he could also explain why Hurricane had no clue about these re-issues. One of his earlier posts says that he just talked to Kelly. Lies, lies, and more lies. It's all going to catch up to him. I see jail time in your future Mr. Holdaway. Don't drop the soap.

 

 

Yeah how the F#@K did the band autograph all of these cds if they knew nothing about them?

The only reason I pre-ordered these in the 1st place was to get the autographed copies.

I'm sure that Lon, David, or whatever he's going by this hour knew that saying autographed would suck more people in and sell more on pre-order. Besides the autographed copies were supposed to be for the diehard fans. Well this fan got f@#ked!!!!!

 

 

 

F#@k the more I read this thread the more pissed I get.

[T-BONE]

The ONLY other thing that could have POSSIBLY happened, was that Lonnie was relying on someone else to set up the deal and get the cd's autographed and such, and he was only the middleman. He sets up the site and collects the money, only to find out that the first guy had no business reissuing anything at all, and Lonnie was left holding the bag, BUT...... Still.... Why the lie about the car wreck?

[heaven&hell]

The ONLY other thing that could have POSSIBLY happened, was that Lonnie was relying on someone else to set up the deal and get the cd's autographed and such, and he was only the middleman. He sets up the site and collects the money, only to find out that the first guy had no business reissuing anything at all, and Lonnie was left holding the bag, BUT...... Still.... Why the lie about the car wreck?

 

 

 

In some ways the lie about the wreck hurts the worst. We all felt bad for the guy and like I mentioned before I sent him a personal email wishing him to get well soon as I'm sure many others on here did.

[rob62972]

Exactly.... that's what doesn't make sense. Why fabricate a lie. Why not come out and be honest with people and explain what happened?

The ONLY other thing that could have POSSIBLY happened, was that Lonnie was relying on someone else to set up the deal and get the cd's autographed and such, and he was only the middleman. He sets up the site and collects the money, only to find out that the first guy had no business reissuing anything at all, and Lonnie was left holding the bag, BUT...... Still.... Why the lie about the car wreck?

[Widda]

Such an outpouring of good wishes, even from people that don't know him that well.

[T-BONE]

Sorry... I keep wanting to give Lonnie the benefit of the doubt, but the car accident thing gets in the way....

[rob62972]

Exactly.... that's what doesn't make sense. Why fabricate a lie. Why not come out and be honest with people and explain what happened?

The ONLY other thing that could have POSSIBLY happened, was that Lonnie was relying on someone else to set up the deal and get the cd's autographed and such, and he was only the middleman. He sets up the site and collects the money, only to find out that the first guy had no business reissuing anything at all, and Lonnie was left holding the bag, BUT...... Still.... Why the lie about the car wreck?

[heaven&hell]

Sorry... I keep wanting to give Lonnie the benefit of the doubt, but the car accident thing gets in the way....

 

 

 

The fact that my money hasn't been refunded gets in the way for me.

[Christine]

Son of a bitch. Good thing I only ordered one disc. Never got that Tyketto live disc he promised me either...

 

I filed a Paypal claim as well.

[Geoff]

Anyone else notice that whoever is using Lon's ID was typing a reply in this thread 2 minutes ago... but they must have scrapped it and left the board now. (That's what the name in italics at the bottom of the thread means, doesn't it?)

[heaven&hell]

Never got that Tyketto live disc he promised me either...

 

 

 

Now I actually did get that from him back in October.

[Studboy]

Anyone else notice that whoever is using Lon's ID was typing a reply in this thread 2 minutes ago... but they must have scrapped it and left the board now. (That's what the name in italics at the bottom of the thread means, doesn't it?)

 

Yup, I noticed that too.

[heaven&hell]

Anyone else notice that whoever is using Lon's ID was typing a reply in this thread 2 minutes ago... but they must have scrapped it and left the board now. (That's what the name in italics at the bottom of the thread means, doesn't it?)

 

Yup, I noticed that too.

 

 

I noticed that as well.

[speed demon]

For me it's trust! He did me wrong about 6 weeks ago and I haven't trusted him since! My issues aside you all will have to ask yourselfs, can I ever trust him again reguardless how this unfolds? Without trust what do you have?

[whiplash1972]

Anyone else notice that whoever is using Lon's ID was typing a reply in this thread 2 minutes ago... but they must have scrapped it and left the board now. (That's what the name in italics at the bottom of the thread means, doesn't it?)

 

Yup, I noticed that too.

 

Look at his ID:

http://heavyharmonies.ipbhost.com/index.php?showuser=794

 

He's been inactive (hasn't clicked on a new thread or posted anything) for over 15 minutes, so he disappeared from the list of active users...

 

You can look at ANYONE'S ID, even if they sign in anonymously, and see when they were last active.

 

He might still be typing right now.

 

Mike

[HighNDryRulz]

Anyone else notice that whoever is using Lon's ID was typing a reply in this thread 2 minutes ago... but they must have scrapped it and left the board now. (That's what the name in italics at the bottom of the thread means, doesn't it?)

 

Yup, I noticed that too.

 

Look at his ID:

http://heavyharmonies.ipbhost.com/index.php?showuser=794

 

He's been inactive (hasn't clicked on a new thread or posted anything) for over 15 minutes, so he disappeared from the list of active users...

 

You can look at ANYONE'S ID, even if they sign in anonymously, and see when they were last active.

 

He might still be typing right now.

 

Mike

 

Yeah, and the Bears MIGHT have won the Super Bowl yesterday.

[whiplash1972]

Holy shit I just got a my first refund from Lonnie. Though it is pending LOL And this message

Message From Seller:

Here is refund #1 for you, we apologize for this issue and we hope you

understand that is was not us who was behind this, we are in the same boat as

you.

 

 

Quick question to everyone reading this thread right now....did anyone else who had pre-ordered the Hurricane CDs get a refund (even if it shows as pending) and a message similar to the one that Brian did?

 

Mike

[lrc72315BANEED!!]

Everyone wants a reply as to what is going on, and you all rightly deserve one as do I. I am not here looking for pity, but as has been said a few times already I myself have been on the scam end too. I don't expect to be forgiven but I was not behind this scam and maintain my innocence and promise each and every one on my son's life that. People do alot of rash things in panic situations.

 

 

This all started in June of last year when i first started talking with the guys in Frontrunner. I was introduced to a couple of guys Ryaan and Ricky Ramierez from Memphis who owned a rather large promotion company. The more we talked the more I was led to believe they could help me further along this big dream i had. They were the money men and could help push things along. While we were meeting in memphis they came up with the idea of reissuing one of their favorite bands Hurricane. I was all for it, so within the next couple of weeks they tell me they are heading to Las Vegas to meet with Kelly Hansen after a show with Foreigner. When they returned they talked it all up, and told me of how great things went etc. Next thing i know they are off to Cali for what was believed to be more meetings. When they returned this time, they tell me that things went great and they got licensed agreements and signed contracts. When i asked to see these, i was given excuse after excuse, the lawyers had them, or they were in between places etc. It did throw up red flags, but my thoughts were, they have no reason to lie to me, damn was i wrong. I went into the whole label thing blind and was told by countless people i needed to be careful because people would use you and lie to you. I didn't listen. They visit HH and knew i was a good member here with alot of friends, so they came up with the deal of the preorder. They told me they didn't have a paypal account and it would be an easy way to track the orders etc. I asked about getting a formal website made, and i was told over and over it was in the works, but that to get the ball going , why didn't i just set one up and once they were done with the "official" website we could just move everything. So that is what i did. At never at any point did i set out to deceive anyone or scam anyone. Contrary to what everyone here may think. then the deal with Georg came about. I called Ryaan and told them we had a big order, they told me to come to memphis and they would get it taken care of. When i arrived down there they had it boxed, I returned home and sent it ups as promised. there was a problem, but it was not my doing. I took it to the UPS hub, i never thought to pay attention to the waybill. Actually there are 2 copies, one is signed, one is not. But after the problem, i called them back, told them of the screwup and was told to come back down and they would take care of it. I never opened or looked in the box, so i do not know what was in it. It is actually still at the hub and i will find out tomorrow. But i can tell you it is not any kind of reissued cd's. I called the so called pressing plant in memphis today and was told they have done no work, for either Ramierez and if i was smart i would steer clear of them myself. Of course that made me even more sick to my stomach. So i called their office, and lo and behold the number had been disconnected. So i then tried the cell numbers i had, and those too had been changed. So it really all began to sink in. As far as the other titles that were listed, the same thing, i was told something and without seeing the legalities with my own eyes, i listened to others and got burned. As far as everyone's money goes, i never took any of the money from the paypal account. they had all the passwords etc, i agreed to let them pull the funds to take care of expenses and costs, and i would receive payment once all of that was taken care of. Well guess what i have not seen a dime. After speaking with Phil Carson (Kelly Hansens representation) he and i both agreed the best thing to do was refund the money and put all of this behind us. Which is exactly what i am doing. I have already refunded some and will have the rest done refunded before the week is done. Everyone will get their money back, i promise you all that. I know my word doesn't mean a damn thing to anyone here and it shouldn't, but i didn't hatch a scheme or scam and sure as hell did not plan it out over a long period of time like some would suggest. I have seen several posts asking why i have not come forward and made a statement, well to be perfectly honest, there are several reasons. 1-shame that all this has happened to alot of people i called friends. 2-i didn't want to see all the scenarios that all the "slueths" here like to put up, who actually do not know anything about what is actually going on. 3- i made the situation worse when i paniked because i too was at a loss for what was going on, so i had to find a way to see if i could find out what had happened. Lying was not good as it hurt alot of very good friends. I have mad alot of mistakes and i do not expect to be forgiven like i said earlier, but i am being 100% honest, no more bullshit, this is on the level. As far as David goes, he is my nephew and he was trying to help, which only made things alot worse, and for that i apologize. I am truly sorry for everything and if i could go back and change it i would. Once all the refunds are made, you won't ever see me here again. But that is the whole story. All i ask is for the ones who are making the threatening phone calls to stop, as the calls are being recorded now. If i was truly the guilty party i sure as hell wouldn't be refunding money, especially after i have not seen a dime to begin with. So with that everyone can make up their own little stories or scenarios and plots etc......I have had all of this i can take, it has weighed very heavy on me as well it should have, because i should have been alot smarter and pushed harder to see all the "legal documents" and then none of this would have happened. But i am doing all i can right now to make it right.

 

Lon

[chocularok]

I still can't get over the fact that he ignored multiple emails & PM's from me (& others, as it turned out). What's up with that shit? Where we asking the wrong questions? I asked him a couple times about a set list & source for the live Hurricane cd he was supposed to have. And nothing...for weeks...sometimes months...at a time. I kept asking myself, "what the hell have I done to get on this guy's bad side"? A while back, we exchanged PM's about the new Winger & Skid Row cd's & I told him I was really excited about them, & he sent me a file of mp3's of the new cd's weeks before they hit the shelves...was all this part of his master plan to get me to buy the Hurricane cd's?

[JLPRocks]

Interesting.....then, why were there many OTHER discs listed as reissues too. Like the Billy Squier, etc.?? I suppose those discs were handled by the Ramirez brothers too, eh??

 

You say the Ramirez brothers owned a rather large production company. What was the name?

 

Not only that...you've posted things on here that you 'talked to Hansen...Schellen, etc.' I guess the Ramirez brothers told you to say those things too?? C'mon man........

 

Also....why screw Adriano out of a $1000 on cds you never expected to send to him. Did the Ramirez brothers con him too??

 

I don't believe one word of your post and I didn't lose any money from your scam.

 

You act as if repaying the money will exhonerate you from what you did. Guess what....it doesn't. You better pray that the people who were screwed don't persue further legal action....because you're done whether the Ramirez brothers conned you ....or not. Ignorance is not an excuse from the law...