L.A. Guns vs. L.A. Guns

[Nick C]

It's all about the way Phil sings. He sounds like he should be fronting a band like Big Bang Babies or Queeny Blast Pop. He's certainly not a sleaze calibur singer.

 

Kinda odd since Phil basically helped INVENT the sleaze style... those first two L.A. Guns albums are still so dirty that you feel like you need to wash your hands after listening...

Backed...and don't forget the 2 Girl albums..both are great...

 

Backed, and still the best stuff he has done IMO. There are 3 though, 'Killing Time ' being the 3rd one.

Yeah Girl were excellent...monster big excellent and I agree with Jez..the best stuff he has done, he also shone in Torme on Back to Babylon which is a great album and he did a couple of others as well with the band one live one demo ish quality (but they might have been released after Phil left) ... I was lucky enough to meet him and Chris Hillman (Shark Island) outside on the steps of Rochdale Tiffanys after a Torme gig there (the Queerboys were support...they changed their names afterwards to The Quireboys) but they were both a bit "down" and were deep in discussion until we got the bottle to approach them at which point they cheered up ...they left Torme not long after.

[heaven&hell]

It's all about the way Phil sings. He sounds like he should be fronting a band like Big Bang Babies or Queeny Blast Pop. He's certainly not a sleaze calibur singer.

 

Kinda odd since Phil basically helped INVENT the sleaze style... those first two L.A. Guns albums are still so dirty that you feel like you need to wash your hands after listening...

Backed...and don't forget the 2 Girl albums..both are great...

 

Backed, and still the best stuff he has done IMO. There are 3 though, 'Killing Time ' being the 3rd one.

Yeah Girl were excellent...monster big excellent and I agree with Jez..the best stuff he has done, he also shone in Torme on Back to Babylon which is a great album and he did a couple of others as well with the band one live one demo ish quality (but they might have been released after Phil left) ... I was lucky enough to meet him and Chris Hillman (Shark Island) outside on the steps of Rochdale Tiffanys after a Torme gig there (the Queerboys were support...they changed their names afterwards to The Quireboys) but they were both a bit "down" and were deep in discussion until we got the bottle to approach them at which point they cheered up ...they left Torme not long after.

 

 

Wow great story Nick.

 

I'll have to admit that besides the Lillian Axe cover of "My Number" I've never had the pleasure of hearing anything from Girl or Torme for that matter.

[Nick C]

It's all about the way Phil sings. He sounds like he should be fronting a band like Big Bang Babies or Queeny Blast Pop. He's certainly not a sleaze calibur singer.

 

Kinda odd since Phil basically helped INVENT the sleaze style... those first two L.A. Guns albums are still so dirty that you feel like you need to wash your hands after listening...

Backed...and don't forget the 2 Girl albums..both are great...

 

Backed, and still the best stuff he has done IMO. There are 3 though, 'Killing Time ' being the 3rd one.

Yeah Girl were excellent...monster big excellent and I agree with Jez..the best stuff he has done, he also shone in Torme on Back to Babylon which is a great album and he did a couple of others as well with the band one live one demo ish quality (but they might have been released after Phil left) ... I was lucky enough to meet him and Chris Hillman (Shark Island) outside on the steps of Rochdale Tiffanys after a Torme gig there (the Queerboys were support...they changed their names afterwards to The Quireboys) but they were both a bit "down" and were deep in discussion until we got the bottle to approach them at which point they cheered up ...they left Torme not long after.

 

 

Wow great story Nick.

 

I'll have to admit that besides the Lillian Axe cover of "My Number" I've never had the pleasure of hearing anything from Girl or Torme for that matter.

Girl were great...one of those bands that you thought were gonna make it but missed out...Jez will probably remember but they were on a couple of real "prime time" TV programmes over here The Old Grey Whistle Test when they did a couple of song in the studio and also on Top of the Pops doing Hollywood Tease.... I thought they were gonna be huge....one of the best bands I ever saw live...I even had their name embroidered on the back of my denim

[Geoff]

Yeah, what this whole Torme thing? Do they have anything recorded?

[heaven&hell]

Yeah, what this whole Torme thing? Do they have anything recorded?

 

http://www.heavyharmonies.com/cgi-bin/band.cgi?BandNum=1242

 

It was Bernie Torme's band who had been with Gillan and Ozzy at one point.

[Jez]

It's all about the way Phil sings. He sounds like he should be fronting a band like Big Bang Babies or Queeny Blast Pop. He's certainly not a sleaze calibur singer.

 

Kinda odd since Phil basically helped INVENT the sleaze style... those first two L.A. Guns albums are still so dirty that you feel like you need to wash your hands after listening...

Backed...and don't forget the 2 Girl albums..both are great...

 

Backed, and still the best stuff he has done IMO. There are 3 though, 'Killing Time ' being the 3rd one.

Yeah Girl were excellent...monster big excellent and I agree with Jez..the best stuff he has done, he also shone in Torme on Back to Babylon which is a great album and he did a couple of others as well with the band one live one demo ish quality (but they might have been released after Phil left) ... I was lucky enough to meet him and Chris Hillman (Shark Island) outside on the steps of Rochdale Tiffanys after a Torme gig there (the Queerboys were support...they changed their names afterwards to The Quireboys) but they were both a bit "down" and were deep in discussion until we got the bottle to approach them at which point they cheered up ...they left Torme not long after.

 

 

Wow great story Nick.

 

I'll have to admit that besides the Lillian Axe cover of "My Number" I've never had the pleasure of hearing anything from Girl or Torme for that matter.

Girl were great...one of those bands that you thought were gonna make it but missed out...Jez will probably remember but they were on a couple of real "prime time" TV programmes over here The Old Grey Whistle Test when they did a couple of song in the studio and also on Top of the Pops doing Hollywood Tease.... I thought they were gonna be huge....one of the best bands I ever saw live...I even had their name embroidered on the back of my denim

 

 

Yeah mate, remember the TV appearances back in the day and Girl in general with very fond memories. Never reached the heady heights they should have done as you say, which was a real crime compared to some of the 'Shite' that was around at the time. One problem I remember, was due to the of the slight 'Glammy' image and band name, which the hard rockers/NWOBHM crowd didn't take to at all (more fool them), but musically they were a lot tougher than any of the Glam bands of the day and since, but some never gave them the chance. I saw them live a couple of times and they were an awesome band & f*cking rocked the place. Still play all their discs regularly to this day and definately go down as one of my all time fave bands.

[Fat Freddy]

I'll have to admit that besides the Lillian Axe cover of "My Number" I've never had the pleasure of hearing anything from Girl or Torme for that matter.

 

This is the only Torme I'm familiar with:

 

 

 

As Bull Shannon once said on "Night Court," "NOBODY can sing the blues like that man!"

[aMetalhead1966]

I'll have to admit that besides the Lillian Axe cover of "My Number" I've never had the pleasure of hearing anything from Girl or Torme for that matter.

 

This is the only Torme I'm familiar with:

 

 

 

As Bull Shannon once said on "Night Court," "NOBODY can sing the blues like that man!"

The Velvet Frog...Mel Torme...LOL!!!Great One Keef!!

[aMetalhead1966]

As most of us know, there are currently two versions of L.A. Guns touring and recording.

I think this is really fucking stupid and IMO Traci lost his right to be in L.A. Guns when he quit his own band.

 

First off this guy walks out the door after they record one of their best albums(Waking the Dead) and then years later he can't get into any other band and pissed everyone else off so he starts a seperate band also called L.A. Guns.

A point not mentioned here is that Tracii Left L A Guns High N Dry before a HUGE tour...and why did he leave? He left cause he thought that he had gotten the gig for being the "New Guitar Player" in.. LIMP BISCUIT!! Yes LIMP FUCKING BISCUIT...to me that says it all...whata loser..

[heaven&hell]

As most of us know, there are currently two versions of L.A. Guns touring and recording.

I think this is really fucking stupid and IMO Traci lost his right to be in L.A. Guns when he quit his own band.

 

First off this guy walks out the door after they record one of their best albums(Waking the Dead) and then years later he can't get into any other band and pissed everyone else off so he starts a seperate band also called L.A. Guns.

A point not mentioned here is that Tracii Left L A Guns High N Dry before a HUGE tour...and why did he leave? He left cause he thought that he had gotten the gig for being the "New Guitar Player" in.. LIMP BISCUIT!! Yes LIMP FUCKING BISCUIT...to me that says it all...whata loser..

 

 

I think I did mention that huge tour in a different post somewhere on here.

I remember reading about the Limp Bizkit tryout but didn't know it was the same time period.

I always thought that he left cause he figured the Brides were a better gig.

[aMetalhead1966]

As most of us know, there are currently two versions of L.A. Guns touring and recording.

I think this is really fucking stupid and IMO Traci lost his right to be in L.A. Guns when he quit his own band.

 

First off this guy walks out the door after they record one of their best albums(Waking the Dead) and then years later he can't get into any other band and pissed everyone else off so he starts a seperate band also called L.A. Guns.

A point not mentioned here is that Tracii Left L A Guns High N Dry before a HUGE tour...and why did he leave? He left cause he thought that he had gotten the gig for being the "New Guitar Player" in.. LIMP BISCUIT!! Yes LIMP FUCKING BISCUIT...to me that says it all...whata loser..

 

 

I think I did mention that huge tour in a different post somewhere on here.

I remember reading about the Limp Bizkit tryout but didn't know it was the same time period. I always thought that he left cause he figured the Brides were a better gig.

Yeah You did mention it...I meant it as the Reason he left..after he failed to get the LB

gig he tried to go back to LA Guns...but before they made their choice he bolted

for Brides...He had also tried out for RHCP when John Fruscante first left...I see he didn't get that gig either...Tracii must really burn his bridges good....

[heaven&hell]

As most of us know, there are currently two versions of L.A. Guns touring and recording.

I think this is really fucking stupid and IMO Traci lost his right to be in L.A. Guns when he quit his own band.

 

First off this guy walks out the door after they record one of their best albums(Waking the Dead) and then years later he can't get into any other band and pissed everyone else off so he starts a seperate band also called L.A. Guns.

A point not mentioned here is that Tracii Left L A Guns High N Dry before a HUGE tour...and why did he leave? He left cause he thought that he had gotten the gig for being the "New Guitar Player" in.. LIMP BISCUIT!! Yes LIMP FUCKING BISCUIT...to me that says it all...whata loser..

 

 

I think I did mention that huge tour in a different post somewhere on here.

I remember reading about the Limp Bizkit tryout but didn't know it was the same time period. I always thought that he left cause he figured the Brides were a better gig.

Yeah You did mention it...I meant it as the Reason he left..after he failed to get the LB

gig he tried to go back to LA Guns...but before they made their choice he bolted

for Brides...He had also tried out for RHCP when John Fruscante first left...I see he didn't get that gig either...Tracii must really burn his bridges good....

 

He also had the Quiet Riot gig for about a week back in 2006.

 

The thing that pisses me off most about this is I remember reading quotes from him in Metal Edge saying that he fully endorses the band continuing on with a new guitar player and at the time that player looked like it was going to be Chris Holmes. But shortly after they did do some touring with Kerri Kelli and Brent Muscat playing guitar.

[aMetalhead1966]

here's a good interview with Steven Riley..it sheds a little light on Tracii and his

bridge burning ways..

 

http://www.rockeyez.com/interviews/int-steve-riley.html

[heaven&hell]

here's a good interview with Steven Riley..it sheds a little light on Tracii and his

bridge burning ways..

 

http://www.rockeyez.com/interviews/int-steve-riley.html

 

I had read part of that interview before and he sure does make Tracii sound like a dumbfuck.

[aMetalhead1966]

here's a good interview with Steven Riley..it sheds a little light on Tracii and his

bridge burning ways..

 

http://www.rockeyez.com/interviews/int-steve-riley.html

 

I had read part of that interview before and he sure does make Tracii sound like a dumbfuck.

Yeah it does...I was trying to find this interview with Phil that was really good..just

can't remember where I read it...

[Fat Freddy]

He left cause he thought that he had gotten the gig for being the "New Guitar Player" in.. LIMP BISCUIT!! Yes LIMP FUCKING BISCUIT...to me that says it all...whata loser..

 

Wow, for real? I never heard that Tracii tried out for the L.B. gig. If that's true, then he *is* a loser...

 

Joining Limp Bizkit probably wouldn't have been the best career move anyway... I mean, does that band even still exist? I think their fifteen minutes have been up for a while. The guy Tracii was trying to replace probably saw the end coming and jumped ship!!

[aMetalhead1966]

He left cause he thought that he had gotten the gig for being the "New Guitar Player" in.. LIMP BISCUIT!! Yes LIMP FUCKING BISCUIT...to me that says it all...whata loser..

 

Wow, for real? I never heard that Tracii tried out for the L.B. gig. If that's true, then he *is* a loser...

 

Joining Limp Bizkit probably wouldn't have been the best career move anyway... I mean, does that band even still exist? I think their fifteen minutes have been up for a while. The guy Tracii was trying to replace probably saw the end coming and jumped ship!!

Yeah he did...I was trying to find the interview I read that talks about it....

I just can't remember where I saw it...

[melodyandzoe]

I have a ticket to see L.A.Guns in Tucson next month,it is Tracii's version.I like his playing,but without Phil on vocals,not sure what to expect.Has anyone seen Tracii's version of the band?

[Fat Freddy]

I have a ticket to see L.A.Guns in Tucson next month,it is Tracii's version.I like his playing,but without Phil on vocals,not sure what to expect.Has anyone seen Tracii's version of the band?

 

Found this clip on of the "Tracii Guns" on YouTube... sound quality isn't great though. I can't say I'm impressed with the vocalist.

 

[heaven&hell]

I have a ticket to see L.A.Guns in Tucson next month,it is Tracii's version.I like his playing,but without Phil on vocals,not sure what to expect.Has anyone seen Tracii's version of the band?

 

Found this clip on of the "Tracii Guns" on YouTube... sound quality isn't great though. I can't say I'm impressed with the vocalist.

 

 

It's strange that they'd do "Wheels of Fire" since it was from an album that Paul Black was never involved in in any way. Iwonder if they've gotten sick of doing only songs from the debut and pre s/t club days.

 

I've listened to songs over at Pauls website and it's just not the same without Phil.

 

 

Paul Black =

[heaven&hell]

I have a ticket to see L.A.Guns in Tucson next month,it is Tracii's version.I like his playing,but without Phil on vocals,not sure what to expect.Has anyone seen Tracii's version of the band?

 

Found this clip on of the "Tracii Guns" on YouTube... sound quality isn't great though. I can't say I'm impressed with the vocalist.

 

 

It's strange that they'd do "Wheels of Fire" since it was from an album that Paul Black was never involved in in any way. Iwonder if they've gotten sick of doing only songs from the debut and pre s/t club days.

 

I've listened to songs over at Pauls website and it's just not the same without Phil.

 

 

Paul Black =

 

 

This is the real L.A. Guns:

Bitch is Back

[SamboraRocks86]

for Phil Lewis, id have to say that Torme is my fave project, followed by LA Guns.

 

Cocked and Loaded is great, but Back To Babylon is awesome.

[Jacob M.]

The more I hear about L.A. Guns the more I hate them. I'm starting to wish both bands would disappear so people would shut up about it. They were a second rate band at best and would be no real loss if gone.

[heaven&hell]

The more I hear about L.A. Guns the more I hate them. I'm starting to wish both bands would disappear so people would shut up about it. They were a second rate band at best and would be no real loss if gone.

 

Sorry to disagree with you but they were a first rate band IMO.

Their first 3 or 4 albums are essential IMO.

[Fat Freddy]

The more I hear about L.A. Guns the more I hate them. I'm starting to wish both bands would disappear so people would shut up about it. They were a second rate band at best and would be no real loss if gone.

 

 

You need to chill out, son. There's more than enough hate in the world already; why waste your energy "hating" a band (or in this case should I say "bands")? Just say "They're not my thing" or "I don't dig'em" and move on. Sheeeeeesh!