Erik Gronwall leaves Skid Row

[Darkstone]

4 hours ago, TheOriginalSplash said:

Completely agree I only have 2 live CD's, KISS Alive & Thin Lizzy - Life Live.

I agree with both of you about live albums, I'm not really interested. 

That being said, I could not live without "Live...in the Raw", "Operation Livecrime" or "Beast from the East".

[Tabe]

On 8/25/2024 at 11:21 PM, Captain Howdy said:

Didn't they do a reunion tour last year?

If they did, I missed it! 

[swisspaddy]

On 8/26/2024 at 2:29 AM, tts42572 said:

Either way, the MSG stuff sounds interesting in the meantime!

Absolutely!

[Captain Howdy]

5 hours ago, Tabe said:

If they did, I missed it! 

https://sleazeroxx.com/robin-mcauley-explains-how-he-ended-up-rejoining-the-michael-schenker-group/

[Tabe]

17 hours ago, Captain Howdy said:

https://sleazeroxx.com/robin-mcauley-explains-how-he-ended-up-rejoining-the-michael-schenker-group/

Very cool.  Shame they didn't do any of the McAuley-era songs.  Would still love a new album in the vein of "Save Yourself".

[whiplash1972]

“Youth Gone Wild” from “Live in London”

 

[tts42572]

Some interesting nuggets came up on Erik's discord channel about his Skid Row departure as some discussion came up with the Live in London release.

Erik basically said on his channel that he proposed to the Skid Row guys a more "loosened" tour schedule that would allow him more time at home to take care of his health.  He had said he asked for something like 3 weeks on, then a solid month off.  Basically just wanted to do 2 or 3 week runs and then have month breaks in between to allow him time to take care of himself.  Erik also said that he also felt that the time off could be used to work on new music so that it wouldn't be wasted time (no pun intended lol).

Anyways, the band wasn't interested in that kind of arrangement so that's why they parted ways.

Honestly, it boggles my mind why the band wouldn't agree to Erik's terms.  Instead, now they're doing nothing at all lol.  And they lost the best thing they've had since Bach left with Erik and highly doubt they come close to finding a better fit than him.  They had some nice momentum and were willing to just toss it away rather than work on being flexible.  For all intensive purposes, they're probably essentially done as a band at this point.

I also posed the question to Erik that, hypothetically, if the Skid Row guys called him and said they were willing to do whatever was needed to have Erik back, would he consider returning?  His answer was that he doesn't close doors and he's open to anything.  I highly doubt Erik would return though as he seems content doing his own thing now.

Anyways, just found it interesting.  It's just too bad the band couldn't find a way to make it work as what Erik asked for sure doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

[Captain Howdy]

4 hours ago, tts42572 said:

Some interesting nuggets came up on Erik's discord channel about his Skid Row departure as some discussion came up with the Live in London release.

Erik basically said on his channel that he proposed to the Skid Row guys a more "loosened" tour schedule that would allow him more time at home to take care of his health.  He had said he asked for something like 3 weeks on, then a solid month off.  Basically just wanted to do 2 or 3 week runs and then have month breaks in between to allow him time to take care of himself.  Erik also said that he also felt that the time off could be used to work on new music so that it wouldn't be wasted time (no pun intended lol).

Anyways, the band wasn't interested in that kind of arrangement so that's why they parted ways.

Honestly, it boggles my mind why the band wouldn't agree to Erik's terms.  Instead, now they're doing nothing at all lol.  And they lost the best thing they've had since Bach left with Erik and highly doubt they come close to finding a better fit than him.  They had some nice momentum and were willing to just toss it away rather than work on being flexible.  For all intensive purposes, they're probably essentially done as a band at this point.

I also posed the question to Erik that, hypothetically, if the Skid Row guys called him and said they were willing to do whatever was needed to have Erik back, would he consider returning?  His answer was that he doesn't close doors and he's open to anything.  I highly doubt Erik would return though as he seems content doing his own thing now.

Anyways, just found it interesting.  It's just too bad the band couldn't find a way to make it work as what Erik asked for sure doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

One thing you learn from Eriks discord is how open and honest he is, but also he does not talk shit about anyone. And something history has told us is that Skid Row are the opposite. Bach might be hard to get along with, but so are those three by all accounts. I fully agree that they really should have been more willing to compromise. Erik not only brought in a vocal talent that could match Bach, he also brought in a ready made fan base and a younger audience as well. For the first time in decades, the were almost relevant again and they threw that away. And as you say, since the dates with Lzzy, they have done fuck all and are just existing on the back of this live album release.

They will be back to near obscurity from here on in.

[tts42572]

9 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said:

One thing you learn from Eriks discord is how open and honest he is, but also he does not talk shit about anyone. And something history has told us is that Skid Row are the opposite. Bach might be hard to get along with, but so are those three by all accounts. I fully agree that they really should have been more willing to compromise. Erik not only brought in a vocal talent that could match Bach, he also brought in a ready made fan base and a younger audience as well. For the first time in decades, the were almost relevant again and they threw that away. And as you say, since the dates with Lzzy, they have done fuck all and are just existing on the back of this live album release.

They will be back to near obscurity from here on in.

I agree.

I had given those Skid Row guys the benefit of the doubt for many years in the Bach debacle but something about Erik's departure is still rubbing me the wrong way.  They played Erik's departure off Erik choosing to leave to take care of his health.  But that's only 1/2 the story.  The other 1/2 is that Erik wanted to stay in the band but they simply weren't willing to accommodate him.  I feel like a real "caring" band would've figured it out.  I mean, Rick Allen loses an arm and Def Leppard gave him whatever time he needed to work it out.  

I've been had the opportunity to chat with Erik a handful of times over the years.  He literally is one of the most sincere, humble and likeable individuals I've met in my life.  He's one of those people you can talk to and within 15 minutes it feels like you're talking to a long lost friend from high school or something lol.  It's just hard to believe Snake and Rachel wouldn't do whatever it took to keep him on board.  Maybe there's more to the story but appears they just let him walk like they thought he'd be easily replaceable.  Yet, we're now 4-5 months out and they still don't have a singer and aren't playing shows.  

Agree 100% that they'll go back to obscurity pretty much like they were pre-Erik.  

    

[Kristian]

They should have reunited with Bach, and jumped on the Not in this lifetime... tour as support act for Guns n' Roses, back in 2016. That was the perfect window to do it, imagine the amount of dollars they could have made off that!

[Captain Howdy]

This is one of the songs Erik and Jona wrote for the next Skid Row album before he handed his notice in

 

 

[lettard]

11 hours ago, Captain Howdy said:

This is one of the songs Erik and Jona wrote for the next Skid Row album before he handed his notice in

 

 

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[Captain Howdy]

48 minutes ago, lettard said:

Members only  

Should go live to non members in a few hours

[tts42572]

12 hours ago, Captain Howdy said:

This is one of the songs Erik and Jona wrote for the next Skid Row album before he handed his notice in

 

 

Pretty cool tune.  

They could've easily put a Skid Row spin on that with guitars, backing vocals, etc.

Skid Row really blew it by letting Erik get away.  I wasn't all that irritated at first when Erik left as I thought he sort of willingly just stepped away to take care of himself.  However, having found out recently that Erik really wanted to stay in the band and had proposed to the band that he just needed a more flexible tour schedule for his family & health needs and they basically just said "no thanks" really pisses me off.

They chose to let him walk rather than be flexible to accommodate his needs.

Guess it's no wonder now why they can't keep a singer.  It's clearly Snake and Rachels way or the highway. 

And I find it hysterical now that they've done nothing outside of those few shows with Lzzy since Erik left.    

[Captain Howdy]

48 minutes ago, tts42572 said:

Pretty cool tune.  

They could've easily put a Skid Row spin on that with guitars, backing vocals, etc.

Skid Row really blew it by letting Erik get away.  I wasn't all that irritated at first when Erik left as I thought he sort of willingly just stepped away to take care of himself.  However, having found out recently that Erik really wanted to stay in the band and had proposed to the band that he just needed a more flexible tour schedule for his family & health needs and they basically just said "no thanks" really pisses me off.

They chose to let him walk rather than be flexible to accommodate his needs.

Guess it's no wonder now why they can't keep a singer.  It's clearly Snake and Rachels way or the highway. 

And I find it hysterical now that they've done nothing outside of those few shows with Lzzy since Erik left.    

Snake and Rachel are in my mind, bigger assholes than Seb (not sure about Scotti as he always seems to float along in the background). Their treatment of every singer has been shitty and yet they talk about Seb as if he is the only one who is a shitty person. Said it before, and will say it again, it speaks volumes to me that Rob will not work with them but will work with Seb as to how bad those guys are.

Seb sure aint no angel, but I think the picture they paint of him is far from truthful.

[tts42572]

32 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said:

Snake and Rachel are in my mind, bigger assholes than Seb (not sure about Scotti as he always seems to float along in the background). Their treatment of every singer has been shitty and yet they talk about Seb as if he is the only one who is a shitty person. Said it before, and will say it again, it speaks volumes to me that Rob will not work with them but will work with Seb as to how bad those guys are.

Seb sure aint no angel, but I think the picture they paint of him is far from truthful.

I used to give them the benefit of the doubt and put most of my blame on Seb for what has transpired with those guys.....but after their handling of Erik, I'd now agree with you.

Those guys not being willing to bend a bit for a guy that just wanted a little more balance to take care of his health and family speaks volumes to me.  Clearly, those guys didn't want to have consideration for Erik's situation so they told him it would just be best to take a walk rather than figure it out together.

Agree Seb isn't an angel either but it's pretty clear now that Snake and Rachel are much bigger blockheads than I might've thought.  I mean, they say all the right things and come off as being nice guys in interviews but it's clear there isn't much give and take with them behind the scenes either.  

It's just a shame.  This band was dead for basically 20 years until Erik gave them new life.  And they were happy to just toss it away without a fight. 

I guess at the end of the day they had a nice victory lap/farewell tour with Erik.  Maybe that's all they wanted was one last hurrah before calling it a day.