Rain - house of dreams

[phaffas]

Im spinning the AWESOME Rain - house of dreams, for the first time in ages. Damn these songs are awesome!! But i always knew the production wasnt great, but id forgotten how bad it was! Its shocking! How can such a great album with a big name like Bormann have such a crap demo like production?

[Geoff]

I'd like to know this too. They're obviously demo recordings, but why were they not spruced up for this realease?

 

And I agree, this album has some of the best songs Bormann has ever recorded. The hooks all over this thing are just perfect.

[phaffas]

I'd like to know this too. They're obviously demo recordings, but why were they not spruced up for this realease?

 

And I agree, this album has some of the best songs Bormann has ever recorded. The hooks all over this thing are just perfect.

 

I really didnt realise till last night, just how bad it is!

Its a crime.

[66 mustang]

listening to this today and forgot how "bon jovish" it is in places. a couple songs sound like it could have been written by Jon and Ritchie

[Chris]

As great as the songs are, the disc is just plain unlistenable because of the juvenile production. A real shame!!

[phaffas]

I created this thread over a year ago. Awesome.

 

 

Just popped this in... and bloody hell! Its a shock how thin this production is every time i listen to it. I had to look up to see if id set up the cd player badly...

[Dead Planet]

I was gonna pick this one up but there's nothing I hate more than a terrible production.....

[Leykis101]

Is this the disc with the song Ain't Found Heaven Yet on it?

[Geoff]

Is this the disc with the song Ain't Found Heaven Yet on it?

Yes. Great song too. Great pity, this CD, as the songs are excellent.

[phaffas]

I was gonna pick this one up but there's nothing I hate more than a terrible production.....

Buy it. Worst production ever. Best songs ever.

[Swazi]

I was gonna pick this one up but there's nothing I hate more than a terrible production.....

Buy it. Worst production ever. Best songs ever.

 

Backed 100% !

[Dead Planet]

I was gonna pick this one up but there's nothing I hate more than a terrible production.....

Buy it. Worst production ever. Best songs ever.

 

Backed 100% !

 

Well maybe if I can find it at a reasonable price.....

[T-BONE]

There's some good tunes on it, but that's about it. I'll take the "Stronger" album any day. Remonds me of a good Charade/Jaded Heart combo.

[KarpetRydOFunk]

I was gonna pick this one up but there's nothing I hate more than a terrible production.....

Buy it. Worst production ever. Best songs ever.

It's hard for me to get past poor production. Sometimes it just takes time, I mean I love Edguy's Tinnitus Sanctum. How much worse can this be?

[Leykis101]

I was gonna pick this one up but there's nothing I hate more than a terrible production.....

Buy it. Worst production ever. Best songs ever.

It's hard for me to get past poor production. Sometimes it just takes time, I mean I love Edguy's Tinnitus Sanctum. How much worse can this be?

 

Really? I think im one of the biggest Edguy fans on the planet! and have always had a spot in my player for them since I first heard Kingdom Of Madness, I think in 97, now that's not even close to what they would evolve into, but I was very very nervous after Hellfire Club, as upon the first listening to that disc, my only thought was, "HOLY FUCKING CHRIST!! how will they ever top this? this is their pinnacle album" and while being more commercial, and not really anything like Hellfire, at least Rocket Ride produced some of their best overall song's ever, The first bad feeling I had in my gut about TS, was when I read an interview with Tobias, I don't remember exactly the dates and times, but paraphrasing, he said they were going to start writing songs, then go into the studio, and all in all it boiled down to they should have the complete process done recorded and released all in about a 4 week time span!!! I knew Tinnitus Sanctum was going to sound, rushed, half assed, with mediocre songs, how long did they take on Hellfire? wasnt it like almost a year? then on top of that, he stressed the point that it wasnt going to be anything like their early stuff, they dont see the need to play heavy just to be heavy! well that didnt bother me on Rocket Ride, because the songs were there, but I listend to TS once all the way through, then anytime ive tried to give it another chance, I get about 4 or 5 songs into it, and HAVE TO STOP IT, and put on Hellfire! it's like giving a heroin addict fake heroin! after he does it, he's feinding 10x more for the real thing! sorry to rant, it's just my point is Rain has terrible production, and yes knowing how Mike B is today, is very suprising, but the song's are there, and it would be great if somehow he would re-record it now, but only if he did an exact re-record, cause you can clearly tell that Rain disc suffers from inexperience and possibly lack of access to better equipment, but that too is not acceptable, because I can take a cheap condenser mic, and figure out a way to make it sound as good as an expensive condenser mic, so it had to have been inexperience, but the songs are clearly worth him pondering over the thought? I'd support it!

[phaffas]

I was gonna pick this one up but there's nothing I hate more than a terrible production.....

Buy it. Worst production ever. Best songs ever.

It's hard for me to get past poor production. Sometimes it just takes time, I mean I love Edguy's Tinnitus Sanctum. How much worse can this be?

It wasnt that bad was it? I know it was a little less then the previous albums, but still better then most albums on the market..

[Leykis101]

What isnt that bad? Edguy's TS? or Rain? they arent even the same genre of music, for one thing, I thought of Edguy's TS the only thing good about it was the production, Rain cd, yes the productions piss poor, and very amatuer sounding! You can't give someone a cd like Hellfire Club, then give them TS and expect anything other then disgustingly bad reviews! it's better then most out on the market yes, in America that aint saying much, but why would anybody even listen to it, when they have Mandrake, Rocket Ride, and without a doubt, one of the greatest cd's ever released, Hellfire Club? answer, because theyve never heard those 3 cd's!

[phaffas]

What isnt that bad? Edguy's TS? or Rain? they arent even the same genre of music, for one thing, I thought of Edguy's TS the only thing good about it was the production, Rain cd, yes the productions piss poor, and very amatuer sounding! You can't give someone a cd like Hellfire Club, then give them TS and expect anything other then disgustingly bad reviews! it's better then most out on the market yes, in America that aint saying much, but why would anybody even listen to it, when they have Mandrake, Rocket Ride, and without a doubt, one of the greatest cd's ever released, Hellfire Club? answer, because theyve never heard those 3 cd's!

I was talking about TS yes.

 

Bad reviews? I thought it was a good album. Not as good as Hellfire Club.... but nowhere near what you are saying.

[Leykis101]

What isnt that bad? Edguy's TS? or Rain? they arent even the same genre of music, for one thing, I thought of Edguy's TS the only thing good about it was the production, Rain cd, yes the productions piss poor, and very amatuer sounding! You can't give someone a cd like Hellfire Club, then give them TS and expect anything other then disgustingly bad reviews! it's better then most out on the market yes, in America that aint saying much, but why would anybody even listen to it, when they have Mandrake, Rocket Ride, and without a doubt, one of the greatest cd's ever released, Hellfire Club? answer, because theyve never heard those 3 cd's!

I was talking about TS yes.

 

Bad reviews? I thought it was a good album. Not as good as Hellfire Club.... but nowhere near what you are saying.

 

Like I said, I didnt hear one thing on it that made me thing "fuck yes! this is good" when I first heard Rocket Ride, although it started off with a kind of weak track, by the time The Asylum started I had my Jeep shaking so hard I thought the windshield was going to shatter! nothing even remotely had me doing that on TS! I was just let down, Im not saying it's a bad album, like its not got talent, im just saying theres not 1 song on that whole album that did anything to me other then make me stop it and put in Hellfire!

[Geoff]

'Tit In His Scrotum' isn't a bad album, just very run-of-the-mill and average. I think only that ballad about the rose stood out for me and the rest just went in one ear and out the other.

[KarpetRydOFunk]

...and the rest just went in one ear and out the other.

Ain't that the story of your life?

[Geoff]

...and the rest just went in one ear and out the other.

Ain't that the story of your life?

What? Did you say something?

 

But in all seriousness, yes, this is sadly how I roll. It's not my fault the human race bores me. I remember random facts about porn and music and that's about the extent of it. And pugs. Did you know that in ancient China pugs were actually designed and created for the amusement of their masters? They were bred and mixed up in order to be jesters for the emperor's amusement. No wonder they rule so much.

[Stefan]

I could only find one song on Youtube. These are a collection of demos I guess.

 

 

Tracks:

1. Bad For Everything
2. Anywhere The Wind Blows
3. Make A Break
4. Talkin' To An Angel
5. Bring It On
6. No Such Thing
7. Miss Myself
8. Everytime You Go
9. Ain't Found Heaven Yet
10. Can I Say If
11. Talkin To My Heart
12. Sentimental Sunday
13. Soul