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Patrizio DI GIUSEPPE
XXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXX - Roma
Italia


First off, let me say that this guy is a piece of work. Very excitable and hard to understand to boot. He wanted 6 of my cd's I was selling, but wanted to dictate to me what shipping would cost. I told him about $10 to Italy and he said $6 is what he was willing to pay because he's done many trades and it has never cost more than that. I should have told him where to go right there, but I agreed AFTER he agreed to pay the difference if it cost more, which it did. He wanted them without the jewel cases, but wanted to make sure there were NO bent corners or edges on the inserts.

I took all the cd's and put them in cd envelopes, and then took the inserts and put them between cardboard and taped them up so they wouldn't get bent. Then I wrapped them all together in a piece of bubblewrap and put it in a padded envelope. It cost $8.80 to send to Italy, but I sent them off anyway and went home to let him know it was going to be another $2.80 for shipping. He flipped out over this news and insisted at this price he wanted the jewel cases as well because he didn't believe me. I told him "too late" because they were already shipped off and scanned a copy of the reciept and sent it to him. That was Aug 1st. He finally sent the extra shipping 2 days later.

Aug 14th rolls around and he's all fuckered up about not getting his cd's. I told him they were shipped on Aug 1st and he should have them by now.

I get this message the next day

 

hi....your letter is arrive with poundage of 14 euro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....now is in my post office but i don't draw!!! please refund me in my account paypal:



What the hell?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? :angry: Like I'm actually going to refund anything after he's got the cd's sitting right there?!?!?!?!?

I told him to go get his cd's as they were right there. It's not my problem if his country or post office wants more money or whatever, and then I got this:

 

i not arrived nothing..is arrived one lettere registered with levy...and i creed you being you package


I finally told him that I'll refund him money AFTER I get my cd's back, but I'm ONLY refunding the cost of the cd's, NOT the shipping.

Then he sends this:

 

if you can sell you duty of ship!!......i don't can remit for your error!
please refund me total shop!
the blame not me!
make to me now
regards
Micky


Why the hell is it my fault? The CD's were right there in his hands, my job was done. I told him again that I'll refund CD prices only, and not the shipping. Why should it cost me $8.80 to ship something, him recieve it and then refuse them?

This guy has been on the MR boards a few times under different usernames and always seems to have problems with trades or sales. I'm banning his IP after this one. No One should have to deal with this fucktard. Also, on some PM's, they're signed "Micky" and on others, they're signed "Pat". Luck313 must have relatives over there....

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I agree this is not your fault, you've been most understanding....I have been buying on eBay and the net for years and it is a fact that every once in a while you have to pay duty/custom taxes, anyone who doesn't realize this is an idiot....The only time I ever got upset with a seller over duties was when he put the value of the package at $50 because it would cost that to replace it...only problem was I only paid $10 for it and that was all it was worth to me. I had to pay $15 in taxes in order to get the item from the post office....needless to say he got a negative after refusing to even acknowledge his mistake.....

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He seems to think since I was the seller, that I should have to pay them :wacko::screwy:

 

 

On top of all this, I just got off the phone with PayPal, and explained to the lady what was happening, and she decided to just put this all behind me and issued me a credit for the full amount in case he decides to try a PayPal dispute. I have a clean record with them and usually have no problems, so they would do this for me. She told me to just refund him and be done with him. I wouldn't be out any $$$ that way. I'm fine with that, I guess..... BUT, it's the principle of it.

 

 

It's nice to have the insurance policy now, but I'd rather make this turd learn a lesson. I'm not a theif and I'll definately give him a refund, BUT only after I have my cd's back. I'll be damned if he gets a refund and still gets the fucking cd's. Judging from the past he's had with trades on that board, I wonder if this is the same thing he's pulled on other people <_< Still the same, his IP will be banned after I have my cd's back and NO ONE will ever have to deal with him on that board again. Hopefully no one here will either if I can help it.

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Guy is a moron.

I didnt know about import taxes when I first started buying from the countries outside the EU, but after I got stung I used that experience to ask sellers to list the items on the customs slip as being lower than they really are, but I accept any responsibility if the items get lost or damaged, that it will be me thats out of pocket, not the seller.

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This guy is a piece of work... Now he claims he's an attorney :rofl2:

Same thing he pulled last time when he was going to sue the MR messageboard because he had a trade gone bad. I told him to read the trade section rules...

 

1. First and Foremost, MelodicRock.com, It's Owner, Admins, and Mods are NOT RESPONSIBLE for trades/sales gone wrong from this section.

 

I told him in the last PM if he continued to be a jackass and a problem on the board, he'd be banned

 

Not my fault if he doesn't understand or can't read

 

Here's the message he just sent me:

 

 

you ban me?...why?.......because i must remit the money???....me appear as benefit for your position!

i not receive nothing!.....i will alone my money!

i being an attorney.....not scream with me please!

make to me now just return this package!

regards

Micky

 

 

 

For fucks sake.......

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i being an attorney.....not scream with me please!

 

 

:rofl2: Damn T-Bone, this guy's "Engrish" is irresistible...

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you ban me?...why?.......because i must remit the money???....me appear as benefit for your position!

i not receive nothing!.....i will alone my money!

i being an attorney.....not scream with me please!

make to me now just return this package!

regards

Micky

 

 

 

For fucks sake.......

 

Even an italian attorney should be able to speak/write better english !! :screwy:

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Aparently, the Patrizio and the Mickey are boyfriend/girlfriend. I told them about the fact that he threatened the board last time he had a fucked up trade and that he was starting to be a problem and just got this...

 

 

Patrizio is attorney...and he want denunciate the happe

how do you still think being fair

make to me now

regards

Micky

 

 

Someone translate?!?!?

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make to me now

regards

Micky

 

 

I think she's comin' on to you man... ;)

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make to me now

regards

Micky

 

 

I think she's comin' on to you man... ;)

:lol: Yeah that sounds about right...

 

Make to me now like big man stud for you to be only am with hotness and exciting. :blink:

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you ban me?...why?.......because i must remit the money???....me appear as benefit for your position!

i not receive nothing!.....i will alone my money!

i being an attorney.....not scream with me please!

make to me now just return this package!

regards

Micky

 

My english sucks too, but this is :headbanger::rofl2:

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This turn tried to take me for a 150 euro for 3 cd's. when I received the cd's they were all busted and in pieces. I'll emailed him and he says too bad I didn't have insurance. He deliberately sent them damaged and was counting on buyer not asking for insurance to get away with the scam. I filed paypal claim and he hit the roof and started sending me death threats. I won the paypal dispute and now he has to refund me but I don't think he has any money in his paypal for the refund so I'll never know if I'm going to see the money back. (he's a bad dude to deal with) his ebay name is twister something or other from itlay. AVOID!!

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This shitwad JUST DOESN"T GIVE UP

 

 

He's still persisting that I owe HIM a refund even though the CD's arrived at his post office and he was too fucking cheap to pay the taxes on them, so he left them there. He's been bugging me non-stop. I told him when I get the cd's back, I'll refund the money, in which I STILL DO NOT HAVE THE CD'S

 

 

I don't know where they are. I don't know if he picked them up and is trying to con me for a refund, or if he left them there and they're STILL there. I was hoping to get them back and get this overwith. I told him to go and refuse them and return to sender, but I still can't make heads or tails of what the fuck he's talking about as his English blows!

 

I sent him this the last time:

 

 

I'll word this in correct English for you.

 

You want CD's

 

You message me with the CD's you wanted and THEN try to dictate price of shipping

 

I pack and send CD's through US mail with Customs slip.

 

Shipping is more, so you pay the difference

 

The CD's arrive at your post office

 

YOU"RE TOO CHEAP TO PAY YOUR OWN COUNTRYS TAXES, SO YOU REFUSE TO GET THEM

 

You leave them sit for weeks.

 

MY JOB WAS DONE WHEN THEY ARRIVED AT YOUR POST OFFICE!!!!!

 

THEY ARE YOUR PROBLEM, NOT MINE

 

 

 

If you would have just paid the fucking tax, you'd have the cd's and we'd be done, but you were too fucking cheap. I have no idea what or why your country taxed them, but they did arrive there, and that was DONE

 

 

I told you that if I get the CD's back, I'll refund the money, but I still don't have them, so NO refund for you

 

GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL!

 

 

 

 

And just got this back from him

 

 

now i speaking with administration of Melodicrock.com.......i not accept your language! i be an attorney and not me do borrow on detour!

you have ask me 8,00 dollar for ship!!!!!!...and arrived with other 18 dollar for tax!.......

 

I NOT EVER ACCEPT OF BEING ME FOR MUDDLE!

 

I HAVE DO CLOSED THE SITE ONTHEROCKS.DE

 

I await refund money and not speak with you in future!

 

 

 

 

He's still mad that I made him pay for the $8.80 shipping INTERNATIONAL TO ITALY, in which I have the reciept! I've shown him this reciept and he's still pissed about it. He's claimed that he's a lawyer and will sue the site etc... I've informed him of the rules of the trading section many times already and he just doesn't give up.

 

I sent him this response one last time, and when I see he's recieved it, I'm banning his sorry ass

 

 

I asked you for $8.00 Shipping because IT COST ME $8.80 TO SHIP THEM YOU MORON! HERE"S THE RECIEPT

 

italyrecieptii9.jpg

 

 

 

Read The Rules!

 

 

http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=27441

 

 

1. First and Foremost, MelodicRock.com, It's Owner, Admins, and Mods are NOT RESPONSIBLE for trades/sales gone wrong from this section.

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Lemme get this straight... he be an attorney and he's going to sue Melodicrock.com and "close" them? :screwy:

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Lemme get this straight... he be an attorney and he's going to sue Melodicrock.com and "close" them? :screwy:

 

I thought he was suggesting he was gonna sue T-Bone for swearing? He is as much an attorney as I am an astronaut.

 

You have his address, I'd send him a nice little free gift in the post for all his trouble. Like a bag of freshly shorn pubic hair.

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You have his address, I'd send him a nice little free gift in the post for all his trouble. Like a bag of freshly shorn pubic hair.

 

:rofl2:

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Lemme get this straight... he be an attorney and he's going to sue Melodicrock.com and "close" them? :screwy:

 

I thought he was suggesting he was gonna sue T-Bone for swearing? He is as much an attorney as I am an astronaut.

 

You have his address, I'd send him a nice little free gift in the post for all his trouble. Like a bag of freshly shorn pubic hair.

 

 

You're closer, so I'll leave that to you :whistle: I was thinking more of a flaming bag-o-shit

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Blargh. Call me Amerocentric, but situations like this are one of the reasons why (1) I don't trade any more unless it's someone I know here, and (2) I REALLY don't like dealing with people who don't speak at least semifluent English. Yes there are assholes in all languages, but the language barrier just compounds the situation.

 

-Dan

 

P.S. If you take a look at my Ebay listings I refuse to accept PayPal from Italian buyers. Too much fraud in the Italian postal system (or in the Italian population in general). I would never have engaged in this transaction to begin with.

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Ditto on the Italian postal service. Either there is alot of fraud or they postal service is the slowest in the world. I too do not ship to Italy. Hell even my insurance provider has a clause giving that specific country 15 extra days over the normal 21-30 days to file a claim. Something you might not no but recently I talked to paypal and asked them if they track these people making claims and they do. I now request any buyer I think that may be commiting fraud to file a claim against me just so there is a record of them on Paypal. Ive already had 2 that refused to file claims.... Makes you wonder?

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This turn tried to take me for a 150 euro for 3 cd's. when I received the cd's they were all busted and in pieces. I'll emailed him and he says too bad I didn't have insurance. He deliberately sent them damaged and was counting on buyer not asking for insurance to get away with the scam. I filed paypal claim and he hit the roof and started sending me death threats. I won the paypal dispute and now he has to refund me but I don't think he has any money in his paypal for the refund so I'll never know if I'm going to see the money back. (he's a bad dude to deal with) his ebay name is twister something or other from itlay. AVOID!!

 

Did you get your money back? Hopefully you paid by credit card through Paypal.

 

This dude is a total moron. :hammer:

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I deleted the jackasses account and he made a new one and responded to my post in the trade section... Just like I wanted him to... :whistle: I now had his IP addy and that was blocked too :nyanya:

 

 

Here was his response to me

 

YOU HAVE BORROW MY MONEY AND I NOT RECEIVE NOTHING CD!

YOU COME DENUNCIATE FOR MUDDLE AND INFAMY!

I HAVE ONLY MUDDLE ON THIS FORUM AND YOU HAVE A BANNED MY ACCOUNT FOR NOT I DEFEND

YOU BEING IS THIEF AND GUTLESS

 

I TOMORROW JUT DENUNCIATION YOU FOR MUDDLE AND INFAMY!

 

YOU SHAME!

 

I then responded with this:

 

 

Your Post Office recieved the CD's and YOU refused to pay the fucking taxes that YOUR country imposed on them. My end of the deal was DONE when your Post Office got them, and it was all in your hands from that point forward. You've been a pain in the ass with almost every trade or sale you've attempted on this board and NO ONE should ever have to deal with you again. I told you that I'd refund the money when I got the cd's back, but I have NEVER recieved them. You claim that you didn't get them, but you also claimed that they were at your Post Office. How do I know that you didn't grab them and expect a refund at the same time? You should have gone down there and sent them back yourself and then you'd have a refund by now, but you lef tthem sit. For all I know, your Post Office people took them. Still the same, I don't have my CD's, so you don't get a refund.

 

Goodbye For Good... Moron

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YOU COME DENUNCIATE FOR MUDDLE AND INFAMY!

You denunciator, you! <_<

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I HAVE ONLY MUDDLE ON THIS FORUM AND YOU HAVE A BANNED MY ACCOUNT FOR NOT I DEFEND

YOU BEING IS THIEF AND GUTLESS

 

I TOMORROW JUT DENUNCIATION YOU FOR MUDDLE AND INFAMY!

 

This dude is a fine one to talk about a "muddle"... :whistle:

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I HAVE ONLY MUDDLE ON THIS FORUM AND YOU HAVE A BANNED MY ACCOUNT FOR NOT I DEFEND

YOU BEING IS THIEF AND GUTLESS

 

I TOMORROW JUT DENUNCIATION YOU FOR MUDDLE AND INFAMY!

 

This dude is a fine one to talk about a "muddle"... :whistle:

Is it a pickle or a muddle? I think it's a pickle for Patrizio, but a muddle for anyone trying to figure out what Patrizio's saying... :blink:

 

I like pickles with my sandwich.

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Maybe he meant he likes his pickle in the mudd?

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