7Th Heaven new box set

[glam_junkie]

well, i guess for the price, not a lot could be expected in terms of packaging.

what was it... $50 for 15 cds or something..... let's be real for a second here.

 

got pix to follow?

[heavyharmonies]

well, i guess for the price, not a lot could be expected in terms of packaging.

what was it... $50 for 15 cds or something..... let's be real for a second here.

 

got pix to follow?

 

I am being real. At 1,000 units, replicated silver CDs with color on-disk silk screening, in full-color LP-style jackets are under $1.00 each. At 5,000 units they're like 60 cents each. I have no idea what the production run is, but I'm assuming at least 1,000 units.

 

They're also charging $10 for shipping when Priority Mail is half that.

 

I realize that manufacturing costs are only part of the equation, but for $60 I was expecting more.

 

Pics below. Back of the box is the same as the front. No information at all on the box. Very flimsy cardboard; won't hold up. Same with the "booklet"; very thin paper.

 

-Dan

 

 

 

[Jez]

No thanx!

[glam_junkie]

well, i guess for the price, not a lot could be expected in terms of packaging.

what was it... $50 for 15 cds or something..... let's be real for a second here.

 

got pix to follow?

 

I am being real. At 1,000 units, replicated silver CDs with color on-disk silk screening, in full-color LP-style jackets are under $1.00 each. At 5,000 units they're like 60 cents each. I have no idea what the production run is, but I'm assuming at least 1,000 units.

 

They're also charging $10 for shipping when Priority Mail is half that.

 

I realize that manufacturing costs are only part of the equation, but for $60 I was expecting more.

 

Pics below. Back of the box is the same as the front. No information at all on the box. Very flimsy cardboard; won't hold up. Same with the "booklet"; very thin paper.

 

-Dan

 

 

Agreed it's not the best packaging.

 

But the costs you have listed are just the 'raw' costs. No account for their time, and costs involved in actually recording/mixing/mastering any of the music included. Did i read there was 700 tracks, or somewhere in that realm... 7c per song. (You couldn't even download for that price!) Say they sell 1000 of these... they get $70 per song, and that's beofre any expenses are taken into account.

 

Compare this to other 'box sets' doing the round and i really think you get what you pay for.

 

I don't know the band at all, and never actually heard their music, but if any band i really liked released a box set of 15 cds for $50 i'd be stoked. Sure, big grande box, with 50pg booklet and individual sleeves with liner notes would be nice, but pricey at the same time. Guess it depends whether you're after a collecotrs piece or the actual music contained on the discs...

[heavyharmonies]

Guess it depends whether you're after a collecotrs piece or the actual music contained on the discs...

 

Which is why, if you read my initial post, I recommended waiting to see what the download/data versions will cost. If those are cheaper, I would recommend those alternatives.

 

-Dan

[heavyharmonies]

Added the boxed set to the HH database (boy did THAT take forever to type in).

 

http://www.heavyharmonies.com/cgi-bin/glamcd.cgi?BandNum=2826&CDName=Jukebox

 

One more example of how this was really thrown together without any thought:

 

The DVD contains 2GB of mp3s, containing demos, live stuff, all of their previous CDs, and all their albums that were never released on CD.... but no artwork, liner notes, or lineups for any of those albums, so there's no way to put any context to those albums we've never heard.

 

How tough would it have been to throw a folder with PDFs of artwork scans or Word files with track listings/lineups, SOMETHING.

 

There's 2.3GB of unused space on the DVD, and it would have cost nothing extra just to add that material. Seriously, anything would have been better than nothing, and don't tell me it would have been too expensive, as that would have cost NOTHING to add to the DVD.

 

With just a little bit of thought and effort, this release could have been huge, but right now what's missing is pissing me off.

 

-Dan

 

P.S. There are repeats of songs throughout the CDs. I assume they are alternate or live versions, but haven't had time to listen, and there's nothing that tells you what's what.

[JC_AOR]

I haven't received mine yet. But from what you have said Dan I am a little disappointed with the cheap packaging and lack of a proper booklet with details about the content of the CD's and some photos etc. would have been nice. However, I still feel that for the amount of songs on here this boxed set is still worthwhile adding to the collection.

[glam_junkie]

would be good for them to make sleeves/inserts downloadable free of charge at some stage....

[Swazi]

No thanx!

 

Hmmm ... yes, it is a little disappointing ... !

[melodicrockoz]

I'd love to see the band have this box set as a 30 cd release or something instead of that 1 disc of mp3's.

[heavyharmonies]

1-minute samples of all 293 tracks posted:

 

http://www.heavyharmonies.com/cgi-bin/glamcd.cgi?BandNum=2826&CDName=Jukebox

 

*whew*

 

All sorts of styles represented from hard rock to AOR to westcoast to boy band to pop.

 

-Dan

[JC_AOR]

Got my box set this week. It's gonna take some time to get through playing all the discs. So far I've found a few goodies. As Dan says there's a lot of music styles on offer here. Packaging is very average.

[swisspaddy]

On 6/1/2010 at 4:00 PM, TIM (2) said:

25 year history? I thought this band were pretty new on the scene, where have I been?

Haha, 14 years later and I think the exactly same thing, just change the number to 39.

I just "discovered" 7th Heaven this week.

[lettard]

I only ever had Silver...which I wasn't overly fond of and sold on years ago  

[Geoff]

Did they actually break up? They were releasing albums annually and finally fixed up the production end but haven't heard from them for a while now. Always loved everything they released, personally. 

Edit - yeah, 'Be Here' from 2020 seems to be the last album. Allegedly still active, but obviously no recent albums. Would love to hear them add to the discography. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Geoff