heavyharmonies Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 I'm finally geting around to listening to this, and... well... I'm disappointed. Technically, there's nothing wrong with it, and it is unmistakably Toto, but it just leaves me flat. None of the songs really grab me. It's no IV, that's for sure. (Heck, it's not even Tambu.) I'll give it some more spins over time, but for now: meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 I thought that.....i now think its their best album after IV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrain Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Tambu is quite good as I recall, been a while since I spin that, but this new one is definitely better and I think best after IV is a strong call but I think I agree, probably followed by 'The Seventh One' at #3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Im not a big fan of Seventh One. Id definitely have Turn Back and maybe the Debut ahead of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC_AOR Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 I don't mind the new album. 3 or 4 really strong tracks and none are terrible. Definitely won't make many new fans though. As for comparisons to their past albums, I'm probably not qualified to say but I doubt this would be their best since IV in my books from what I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 I dont think there is a weak track on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 I dont think there is a weak track on it. No, you're right. There are several. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 I dont think there is a weak track on it. No, you're right. There are several. The reality is that the tracks I didnt like at first are now my favs. I wish all albums could be like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gener8tr Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Still listening to this one at least once per week. LOVE IT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavyharmonies Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Read lots of complaints over at the MR forum regarding the sound quality of the Frontiers pressing, that they overly compressed the mix, and that the Japan SHM pressing has considerably better SQ. That may be a large part of my complaint about the album: it doesn't have the sonic headroom or lushness of mix/production that previous Toto efforts have had. It's a bad practice in general, but to do it with a Westcoast AOR album where the sonic characteristics are a MAJOR part of the aural experience, borders on criminal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 I find its only the first song or 2....the rest is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gener8tr Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Read lots of complaints over at the MR forum regarding the sound quality of the Frontiers pressing, that they overly compressed the mix, and that the Japan SHM pressing has considerably better SQ. That may be a large part of my complaint about the album: it doesn't have the sonic headroom or lushness of mix/production that previous Toto efforts have had. It's a bad practice in general, but to do it with a Westcoast AOR album where the sonic characteristics are a MAJOR part of the aural experience, borders on criminal... I own the Japanese pressing and it sounds great... and I'm one of the most demanding mother ******* on this site when it comes to that stuff. Now, is it as neutral as the original 1983 Japan for USA CD pressing of IV? Probably not as I'm sure Toto didn't break-out the same all-analog set-up for XIV that they used 34 years ago to record IV... but this one is certainly not completely brick-walled like many (most) new releases are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 The recent blu spec of IV sounds amazing too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrain Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 you get that too Glen? yeah it's a very reasonable priced release and recommended for a pick, love that blu-spec and SHM discs at cdjapan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I was looking for a great sounding version and Jez recommended it - sounds amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gener8tr Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Am I the only one still spinning vinyl around these parts? It will change your life, for real. And no, you don't need a 10k set-up, but you do need more than your daddy's 1975 Panasonic all-in-one that includes an 8-track player. Many people not-in-the-know will complain about pop and hiss... sure, if you're using a 1968 Sears ceramic cartridge and dirty, frisbee-like records. Clean vinyl with a decent amp, turntable and cart in you're in business. Sound quality is mind-blowing compared to most CD's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Am I the only one still spinning vinyl around these parts? I hate vinyl, i put up with it when i was a kid because i had no choice. As soon as i got a cassette player i got my mate to put all my vinyl on cassette and sold all my records to buy tapes. Then CD's came out and i ditched my tapes. Now i'm completely digital and love the convenience of it. Vinyl is a complete pain in the ass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I love the sound of vinyl but just havent the storage space. Alsi i have no deck now either. One day maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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