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Really sad how ebay doesn't do anything and allows private users.

 

 

Just one question:

 

I never was a seller, so when people are bidding on your items, can you see what is the value of your higher bid ?

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No... You'll only see what the bid is at. The high bidder could have a high bid of $20, but current bid may be at $5 and that's all the seller will see. If a seller could see people's max bids, it would be much easier for them to have shill bidders to go right up under the max of another bidder without going over. Now it's a guessing game. It's also easier to bust if I notice that I'm the high bidder, get outbid by a newbie, and then they cancel right away and end up being under my bid again...

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No... You'll only see what the bid is at. The high bidder could have a high bid of $20, but current bid may be at $5 and that's all the seller will see. If a seller could see people's max bids, it would be much easier for them to have shill bidders to go right up under the max of another bidder without going over. Now it's a guessing game. It's also easier to bust if I notice that I'm the high bidder, get outbid by a newbie, and then they cancel right away and end up being under my bid again...

 

but non-zero feedback number does not guarantee that he is not fake bidder.

assume that one buyer won 1 item each every week (total 4 items in any month) from same seller.

if the seller leave positive feedback to him for all items, the buyer's feedback number will be 4.

ebay's new policy for feedback allow that. so any fake bidder for shill-bids could get almost 50 feedback number in a year

if the fake bidder win at least one item every week and the seller leave positive feedback for all items.

and moreover if the fake bidder hide his feedback (as like mr.kim78), we could not know who left feedback to him.

 

feedback number for buyer could guarantee nothing for his reliability as buyer. you know seller also could not leave

negativie feedback to his buyer.

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i thought he have heard about this topic and stopped shill-bids (or just temporarily).

but he just started to do shill-bids again.

 

just LOOK mr.kim78 (his another account for shill-bids)'s bid history :

 

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?View...ted=1&all=1

 

this is just the list he WON from his own items.

followings are some examples mr.kim78 is second high bidder : (m***m ( private ) is mr.kim78 without doubt)

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=250402112859

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=260389020487

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=250402113288

 

no need to list more. HE IS JUST RIP-OFF.

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i thought he have heard about this topic and stopped shill-bids (or just temporarily).

but he just started to do shill-bids again.

 

just LOOK mr.kim78 (his another account for shill-bids)'s bid history :

 

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?View...ted=1&all=1

 

this is just the list he WON from his own items.

followings are some examples mr.kim78 is second high bidder : (m***m ( private ) is mr.kim78 without doubt)

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=250402112859

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=260389020487

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=250402113288

 

no need to list more. HE IS JUST RIP-OFF.

 

I just called ebay personally to start an investigation on this guy.

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Wow, so he outbid himself on everythign now and then just sends second-chance offers around?

 

eBay will never do anything to such seller - they LOVE the fees his shill-bidding generates...

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it seems this rip-off seller chanced his ebay id for shill-bids.

the id shown as h***e ( private ) is his new ebay id for shill-bids.

 

some examples are here :

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=250444624228

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=260428871883

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=250444590814

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his atsushi went for peanuts..... :christmas: in the auctions i won one d***2( 79) was bidding all the time.... <_< and i still got them for approximately half the price of what are usually carrying .....

 

edit: i got finally predator from p.mantis(i had it already on both korean and japo vinyl versions) and with the sticker for $15-$16....except a couple of boots(which i'm trying to find, but to download only) i'm done with my p.mantis collection.

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i found his new id for shill-bids, that is hysystem (his previous id for shill-bids was hysystem21)

 

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tab=AllFeedback

 

look his bid history for 30 days :

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...s_None_ViewLink

 

he bid on his own "109" items. (he sold about 300 items last time, so it means he bid on 1/3 of his own items)

 

and he WON 40 items out of them :

 

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?View...ted=1&all=1

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at the moment, this rip-off seller is bidding on his own items :

 

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?View...e=-1&rdir=0

 

y***s ( private ) is hysystem, his another id for shill bidding.

 

who will be ripped off this time ??

 

this poor guy was already ripped off :

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=260445475900

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at the moment, this rip-off seller is bidding on his own items :

 

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?View...e=-1&rdir=0

 

y***s ( private ) is hysystem, his another id for shill bidding.

 

who will be ripped off this time ??

 

this poor guy was already ripped off :

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=260445475900

 

y***s ( private ) was hysystem21, not hysystem. :christmas:

 

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?View...ted=1&all=1

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this rip-off seller has other account for buying, that is kisstherecords

 

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?View...ted=1&all=1

 

he won SKAGARACK CD for $810.

but when i looked the bidding history, it seems the second high bidder ".***s( 8 )" is not serious bidder.

i guess the second high bidder is fake account for shill bidding or he just bid on the item to fuck kisstherecords off.

 

anyway that is good present for this rip-off seller :christmas:

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this rip-off seller has other account for buying, that is kisstherecords

 

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?View...ted=1&all=1

 

he won SKAGARACK CD for $810.

but when i looked the bidding history, it seems the second high bidder ".***s( 8 )" is not serious bidder.

i guess the second high bidder is fake account for shill bidding or he just bid on the item to fuck kisstherecords off.

 

anyway that is good present for this rip-off seller :christmas:

 

I was the second highest bidder in that auction, and I was really serious about getting that CD! Didn't know about the shill bidders until reading this post. Good thing that he ended up with damn thing himself, I just got caught up in spirit of bidding. Actually I already have the CD with autographs from Skagarack, but mine is without the OBI strib, and there's nothing I want more to complete it with the OBI :-)

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