PeterS

How else would you describe somebody who inherits 150 million and blows it before ending up massively in debt? Best conman in US history but good businessman he's not. There's a phrase where I come from that sums the Trumps up. 'Clogs to clogs in three generations'.

That's what I mean. You're supposed to be prudent during those goods times as bad times will come when you need to borrow. And it's barely started. Whoever wins will have to borrow big the next few years. Fiscal Conservatism is dead.

And the US debt has skyrocketed. At times of things going well you're supposed to bring money in. He didn't and now things are bad it will only go up further. Whatever happened to the Tea Party? He's run the US like one of his companies. Borrow borrow borrow and he gets to walk away from the US debt. Personal debt might just about to be a problem for him.

See last 'presidential debate'. Not you, how the US looks to the rest of us when that's the advertisement.

You guys clearly don't do debate. You just shout. Surprised that 'probably the least successful businessman in US history and greatest tax fraud' wasn't on the list though.

You seem to be conveniently overlooking the fact that this exploitation was for king and country.

I quite like it. It's not a Bon Jovi album of old but we're not young either. Struggling to really put this in the melodic rock category though. Also like the production. Got a certain atmosphere to it. But I liked Destination Anywhere and that put me in the minority.

So Trump's tax fraud is OK? Though it does seem he's not actually rich.

Nominations aren't announced so what happens is a politician who made the nomination 'leaks' that they did it. Means diddly squat. If any of us were in a position to we could nominate leykis101 and leak it.

Nice. Loved their last album. That's not the best song they've done though. Confident there must be better on the album.

Posted this on the youtube thread but maybe more appropriate here. His ability to find some of my favourite songs and enhance them is uncanny. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT9MbF7mq2OjGB7tsSRY12g

https://www.youtube.com/c/HollywoodScream This site keeping me amused right now. Great choice of music.

That's sad news. A really important musician for me. Waysted and Fastway bands I still listen to RIP

The best country in the world myth is used as a political tool to make people think all is well and you're better here than anywhere else in the world. USA has this exceptionalism culture in politics and us brits have always had it too. Plenty of others use it. Are they bad countries to live in? Certainly not. Best in the world? No metric shows that. Same with the 'land of opportunity'. A myth perpetuated to make people work hard. Reality remains that the most surefire way of being successful is having a rich father.

New tools though. Social media and 24 'news' where most of the news is opinion. It could, and is, argued Hitler was the first to really unleash the power of propaganda through radio. Trump is the first to master social media for propaganda purposes. Youtube channels now in the mix as well. They will take over from talk radio, I suspect.

Why do you think this is a US Topic? The media globally does this. But it's not just the media, politicians lie, and they seem to be getting worse. Then there is the close relationship between the media and the politicians. There needs to be separation between the Media and the politicians. You can't have media moguls (Murdoch and others) paying politicians and then 'reporting' on them in any objective way, The swift move between radio/tv host and politician should not be allowed. See this a lot in both the UK and US. These people know what they're doing. Add to that the politicians are paid by other large companies. This isn't a left/right thing either. You really think your elected official has your interests at heart when some benefactor is 'donating' millions to their cause? Hilarious though that they talk about bias and then roll out the line 'the USA is the best country on the earth'.

Where I live it’s quite likely to be cows .

Certainly, one I'm sure curious to hear.

That's what the IRA once rolled into the middle of Manchester (UK) in a lorry and blew up the city center. I was there the day after. Mindblowing the devastation. Who'd store that much in one place knowing what it does if it's set off?

Anywhere restrictions are lifted the figures will rise. Now holiday season and a general drop in discipline it will happen everywhere. UK figures also climbing but really important to precede any comment about UK figures with an inference it might be johnny foreigners fault. The reality is the dance between trying to keep things as open as possible but not overwhelming health services is pretty well impossible.

Yep. Not forgotten. Absolutely love this one and still spin it occasionally.

That one I'm not sure on. I'm not a fan of military bases in other countries. And I know as a Brit we're all over the world as well. That said with Putin clearly trying to weaken the west it's probably not the right time for this move.

Last DAD album was good. Best for a long long time. Still one of the best live bands on the circuit. Always look forward to anything he does.

Likely to be in my top 5. Super album.