Glen

move on guys this thread is toxic. 🙂

Muse. brilliant album

yeah it's nice but a way off Work of Art quality imo

I've moved on mate, I suggest you do too

Work of Art 😭😭😭😭 Levara (such a shame)

move on mate

what a mess

💯 time to move on

I have and do get that, but in my opinion it was a measured response. How do you do a measured response just for the affected? What lock the oldies down forever until a vaccine is found and let everyone else crack on as usual lol. Basically at the start, 1500 a day were dying at the peak. Hospitals were overwhelmed. That didn't happen in Australia. but it did here. Only solution was to lock everyone down and it worked Summer 2020, I went on hols. Cases were virtually zero. Only problem is the fucker came back and even more people were dying by Jan 21 so we locked down again for 8 weeks. March 21 vaccines rolled out and we gradually opened up. not sure how else that could have panned out tbh I get that Australia has over reacted and dragged it out way too long but I won't criticise our government as I think they did the right thing.

At its peak : Covid = around 2000 / day every other cause put together = 1250? maybe 1300 at a push

the fact is mate that at its peak, more people were dying per day from COVID than every other cause put together in the UK. imo, that warrants a response

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Is that a fact. At that rate mate, the UK will fail to exist in 15 years. Moron.

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/heat/2022/electric-brixton-london-england-5bb157a8.html I left after Living on the Run 🏃‍♂️

Well as expected HEAT were a shadow of their former selves. There is such a gigantic gulf between Erik & Kenny. Last time I saw Kenny was about 12 yrs ago in a small club with about 40 people in attendance - that was obviously v good, but a decade on, in a larger venue he doesn't do it for me. Bouncing around like an over excited puppy shouting songs which weren't written for his voice or range. It's a real shame that I'll never see HEAT again unless they happen to be on a bill at a wider festival or something. In my opinion, most disappointing album of 2022. and now most disappointing gig.

no response to this then Geoff? Probably because you can't argue with it and it impacts your blinkered viewpoint. I'm pretty sure that stat is probably higher than any other death cause as in 2017 for example the leading cause of death for males age 30-50 was accidental poisoning (!) followed by suicide. As I've previously mentioned on numerous occasions (mostly ignored), the death rate in UK hit nearly 2000 a day from covid. These were excess deaths as proven by excess mortality stats. That's more from one cause than the normal daily death of around 1500 for every case. So in my opinion our response was measured and I will not criticise it. This might not have happened in Australia but it happened in UK. But this will fall on deaf ears so I might as well move on.

folk probably saw ADV and didn't bother reading any further

as of Nov 21 (which is a while ago) : 20,000 under the age of 65 have died of COVID in UK 50% had no underlying health conditions.

You could ask that about any vaccine. I assume your children have received several. Not I'm condoning a covid vaccine for children. but in the early days plenty of healthy under 65s died who would no doubt have given anything to have previously had the luxury of a covid jab, as they drew their last breath

file under Nickelback

did I mention I'm seeing HEAT tonight Feels like end of an era though and if the tickets weren't from 2020, I doubt I'd be going in all honesty. absolutely OK with being proven wrong tho

not true as I said above. Quite happy to debate differing opinions but not on whether vaccines work or not. Especially when the evidence is plain to see Also, your opinion on what constitutes a maniacal frenzy is different to most logical people

wrong. I only use the term misinformation when it is warranted perfectly happy to listen to other people's opinions and change my mind. in this case though squawking about vaccines not working is spewing misinformation. On the flip side, you call anyone who disagrees with you a liberal and end your debate in the same way

still not Erik HEAT though is it 😉

I still think this situation is sad. We get a half arsed HEAT album and a decent Skid Row album instead of a brilliant new HEAT album.

my favs are all the non singles