Glen

urgh both of those songs are a cheese fest. Hard pass 

ADV wrote most of the debut. but that was before he burned himself out writing another 4000 songs

of course the main problem is it isn't Revolution Saints.

If you still want to showcase DC pick some more band members and call it something else but don't pretend its Rev Saints anymore. 

reeks of ADV 

7 hours ago, auslander said:

far too long to watch but I agree. His starting line up is always wrong imo. 

Still basically qualified so all good really 

4 hours ago, auslander said:

And the pundits were spot on about Argentina being overrated it seems. Will have to win both games now to have a chance if progressing.

In fairness Saudi Arabia were inspired in the 2nd half.

& Argentina could have scored 3 in the last 10 mins on any other day.

Still expect them to qualify, but imagine if they are runners up!

Sets up a rather tasty last 16 game

2 hours ago, lettard said:

Not atm 10 minutes into 2nd half of their first game  don't think anyone seen that coming? Still think they'll get a result in the Saudi match currently taking place though tbh

ha ha Saudis were great 👍 

19 hours ago, auslander said:

Many consider them a dark horse in the tournament. I've seen some pundits having the Danes in the semis.

gotta beat Argentina in the last 16 first.

My wife's half brother is Danish so I always cheer them on but I fear the argies might be too good.

England on fire 🔥 🔥 

should have been 8-1

Anyone listened to it yet?

The whole album is magnificent, but 'Run' blew my mind. What a track 

2 hours ago, Geoff said:

But did they really have nothing in the UK like we did here? Where lockdowns wouldn't end until 90% of the population was vaccinated?  

no we didn't 

1 hour ago, Geoff said:

Sorry to hear about your long covid thing. Hope it's better now and genuinely not trying to belittle your or anyone else's situation. I just personally don't know a single person who hasn't had covid (except me, possibly?) but I also don't know one single person who's got or had long covid, apart from you, I guess. And I have a tendency to believe what I see and experience first hand. 

I know loads of people with long covid. Just a few examples. 

Me lol - thankfully better now

My son lost his sense of smell for 9 months.

My work colleague has had long covid for 2 years. Suffers crushing exhaustion- cannot walk more than 400 yards without taking a rest.

My sons PE teacher has had no taste for over 12 months now

My mate at work daughter has had no smell for 6 months, not returned yet

But there are literally 100s of thousands of cases in the UK which is why I maintain this is a much worse issue than a few isolated cases of vaccine illness. 

no idea how to cut and paste like you do so I'll answer answer in order. Then I'm moving on which is what I suggest you do as well.

1. it wasn't dedication, I was just generally interested in your article, but as usual as soon as a googled one of the guys a fact check article popped up which pretty much dismissed every concern they were raising. What you then choose to believe is then up to the individual 

2. I don't necessarily believe I'd be dead if they hadn't locked down, but I do believe the death count would have been far greater. The initial mortality rate amongst the over 70s was about 15% and there was no vaccine. The early strains were far more deadly as Auslander so eloquently pointed out. Therefore the only way to stop the spread was to lock down and it worked. Situation in UK was very different to Aus at the start. But the UK government left it way too long before they locked down. We were far worse than most EU countries, especially Germany. Leading to much higher case loads in the early days - this is where they failed and yes there should be investigations. Not only the government but the health experts as well. Its different now with omicrom - nobody gives a shit anymore cos its like a bad cold.

3. First time I had covid in July I had pains from between my left shoulder blade all the way down my left arm. Could barely lift anything. Lastly for about 4 months before it finally waned. Muscle and joint pain is a common symptom of long covid 

4. no I haven't

5. Not the point - the factfind found most of it to be false or misleading. Why would u then be interested? If it was all true, then yes I would be interested. As usual tho it isn't. 🤷

6. they need a review into long covid cos the government failed and were inept. Simple. And no , unfortunately the poor people with long covid are stuck with it, be glad you aren't one of them. Also you keep saying the vaccine was forced on me?? it wasn't. Millions of people in the UK are unvaccinated. As far as I'm aware the only people in the UK who were mandated were healthcare workers or first line response staff. 

7. Well who knows eh? your point is basically irrelevant. As I've said before I know a few people who ended up on ventilators in hospital in the early days before the vaccines.

so there you go - you'll disagree with everything I said cos well, that's just you. But to each their own. Continually arguing the same points over and over is pointless especially when circumstances in our respective countries were so different.

Covid is pretty much a thing of the past in the UK. Nobody really talks about it anymore, there's nothing on the news , I'm not having anymore boosters cos it's just a bad cold now.

I do feel sorry for the people with long covid because I know a lot of people suffering with it and it can be very debilitating. 

Now it's time to move on

If you reply I will probably read it, but I've said my piece. No more lengthy replies from me you'll all be glad to hear 🙂 You can all argue about the vaccine between yourselves

Back to the music 🎶 

26 minutes ago, auslander said:

I had 5 vaxxine doses. They did nothing to prevent me getting covid. And when I got it a month ago it hit me hard. Only thing that helped were these extremely strong anti-virals. And I still have symptoms to this day.

Eventually the real story will come out that the so-called vaxxines were little more than placebos that provided minimal value. All they did was make trillionaire companies massive profits. 

Here is a very easy statement to prove my point: 97% of Australia have had the "vaxxine" in multiple doses. And 80% of Australians (minimum) have had covid since. Hardly a great vaxxine is it! Not really in the same league as the polio vaxxine which actually eliminated a disease.

And to think of the hysteria about people not getting vaccinated to the point they lost their jobs or were arrested for protesting. Someone should be held to account. But no-one will while the media continue to collude with the authoritarians.

ya ya ya.

Well in UK the cases dropped off a cliff after the vaccine roll out. Everyone can argue to fit their agenda.

You'll never know just how ill you might have been without the vaccine?

Did you end up fighting for your last breath on a ventilator? I know some people at my work who did in the early days.

3 hours ago, Darkstone said:

You quote these numbers that were fed to you by the media quite often as a basis for your arguments. 

Have you ever thought that these numbers were false or misrepresented? 

As for "long covid", just playing Devil's advocate here, but have you ever thought that maybe it's a result/side effect of the vaccine? 

You tend to have a lot of faith in the powers that be and what they tell you, even though said powers are now backtracking on nearly every aspect of the handling of this issue. 

most of the people suffering with long covid had the disease before the vaccines rolled out.

And they had covid - the symptoms generally start as soon as you get it.

it's not rocket science lol. 

I had long covid in my arm for 4 months. Started as soon as I contracted covid the first time round. 

Also were these numbers fed to us?? These were just the daily deaths. There's a ton of stats you can look to support these numbers cut a million different ways. Excess deaths is the most telling stat. Why do you think this is all made up? 

I'd be interested to know.

And aren't other you tube things just quoting stats etc to debunk things now- why believe that.

The link I posted earlier my much slates all the things debated in that parliamentary meeting as either not true or twisted to an agenda. Doesn't that make you wonder. ??? come on tell me. I'm interested 

Why are they delaying the long Covid review? isn't that more important than slating the vaccine?? 

and then you have this which is actually where the main problem lies :

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/01/two-million-people-in-uk-living-with-long-covid-say-studies

The figures also drew criticism of the government from the all party parliamentary group on coronavirus.

“For nearly two years we have been warning the UK government about the scale and dangers of the long Covid crisis and their failure to properly address it will continue to devastate lives, damage our economy and cripple public services by decreasing productivity and increasing labour shortages,” said Layla Moran, the group’s chair.

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I was watching the news last night talking of labour shortages in uk. Needs to be a full investigation and UK government held to account 

3 hours ago, Geoff said:

lol. You might want to look outside of your 6pm bulletin for a gauge on what exactly this "random minority" is, and what exactly the "possible side effects" are. It won't take very long at all for the collateral damage of the covid panic to far outweigh what covid actually is... if you believe that it hasn't already happened a long time ago. They're even talking about it in your parliament over there. But that's probably not newsworthy, I guess. 

As for long covid vs vaccine injuries / alleged associated deaths... the big difference between the two, that I find to be a point far too major to ignore, is that covid was not mandated and forced upon us all.

https://fullfact.org/health/vaccine-safety-westminster-debate/

interesting reading I find 

On 11/16/2022 at 6:39 AM, Darkstone said:

Surely, no matter what side you're on in this argument, we can all agree with what's being said in this video.

 

 

I watched part of it.

I agree that the UK government handling of the pandemic was shit. They failed to lock down early enough leading to 1000s of deaths, they failed care homes, they offered PPE contracts to their mates which wasted billions of tax payers money. All shocking and it was played out daily in the UK parliament, each shocking failure.

However I think the one thing they got right was the vaccine rollout and the speed of our opening up again.

I notice he talks about them now testing for possible side affects of the vaccine which might affect a random minority but doesn't talk about the near 2000 people a day who were dying from this virus at the peak (I bet they wished they had the option of a vaccine) or the hundreds of thousands of people who are suffering the debilitating effects of long covid - I know quite a few. 

In fact the government are being investigated for that too. Their failings which impacted so many peoples lives.

Lastly, no sitting politician should be on a reality TV shows and  he has been suspended from his party. 

1st one was great, not bothered since lol 

1 hour ago, Darkstone said:

The best by far being Tony Martin.

IMO, of course. 

RJD for me by a mile and the best 2 albums 

Black Sabbath?? at least 8? 

journeys had 6

2 hours ago, auslander said:

This literally made me lol. Thanks mate, needed a chuckle.

your comment made my wife laugh. she's left and we continually clash over politics 

yeah I heard that a week or 2 back. Sounded rough as, especially arnels vocals which sound shot. 

I've no desire to see them live anymore tbh

4 hours ago, Ponen said:

I love Muna, they are one of my fave bands, but their lastest output didn't do much for me. It's still a good album no doubt but pales in comparison with their earlier works. 

I like the Muna songs but struggle with the vocals 

26 minutes ago, Metal T said:

You're a stupid motherf**ker,all you do is troll and act like a worthless little punk on HH

Learn to stay in your own lane moron.

Democrats are natural-born cheaters and the mainstream press runs cover for all of their illegal activities.The reason blue states reject Voter Id laws is because it makes it EASIER for them to CHEAT.

you calling me a moron is actually one of the funniest things I've read on these forums in the last 15 years.  🤣🤣🤣👍

Comedy gold.

And again just to define your idea of trolling : someone who doesn't agree with you 🙄