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Hey, folks. Hope everyone is doing great.

Below is my conversation with one of the sellers from Germany I wanted to make some business with.

He calls himself a serious dealer. See for yourself:Listen, Robert.

 

I am a serious collector. You can go ahead and check my feedback at ebay(my nick is ashen_light)and heavyharmonies.com.

 

Don't tell me to piss off when I have questions. The only reason why I am asking you all these questions-because I want to make sure that there is no misunderstanding between us.

 

What, is it that hard to answer my questions?

If you do not want to deal with me-fine. You are not the only Seller who has Big Rat-S/T.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Target Records [mailto:info@targetrecords.de]

Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 12:08 AM

To: Kotsoev, Denis

Subject: AW: Question

 

Denis,

 

I?m sorry to much mails & questions for two CDs. I?m not interest to deal

with you.

 

Best Regards

 

Robert

www.targetrecords.de

 

-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----

Von: Kotsoev, Denis [mailto:DKotsoev@archstonesmith.com]

Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. Juni 2005 21:59

An: info@targetrecords.de

Betreff: RE: Question

 

 

Robert,

 

I made up my mind:

 

Big Rat-S/T 14,95 EU

Cane-With a Smile 9,95 EU

 

The total comes up to: 24,90 Euros. Is it O.K. if I'm 10 cents short?

 

Also, please let me know what I owe you for shipping for both CDs.

 

Thank you.

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Kotsoev, Denis

Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 10:39 AM

To: 'Target Records'

Subject: RE: Question

 

Hey, Robert. I'm back.

 

Quick question:

I figure that together with Big Rat-S/T I will need either Cane-With a

Smile or Scarlet-Ship of Fools, but I absolutely forgot how Scarlet

sounds. Do you have by any chance song samples you could e-mail to me?

If not could you give me a brief description of Cane and Scarlet from

your perspective?\

 

Thank you in advance.

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Target Records [mailto:info@targetrecords.de]

Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 11:05 AM

To: Kotsoev, Denis

Subject: AW: Question

 

Hello Denis,

 

time is no Problem - I have more Copies from Big Rat in Stock because I

know

their Label.

 

Best Regards

 

Robert

 

-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----

Von: Kotsoev, Denis [mailto:DKotsoev@archstonesmith.com]

Gesendet: Montag, 30. Mai 2005 16:56

An: Target Records

Betreff: RE: Question

 

 

Thanks.

 

Let me see what else I need from your list and I'll let you know.

I definitely need the Big Rat and I'll buy it, it is just the matter of

time.

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Target Records [mailto:info@targetrecords.de]

Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 12:17 AM

To: Kotsoev, Denis

Subject: AW: Question

 

 

Got it. So basically, I need to order something else to make it at least

25 euros.Right?

 

Right!

 

Two more questions:

 

The CD was released in 1993 and it is quite a rarity on the market. Is

it really still sealed?!?

 

I?m a serious Dealer!

 

Can I also have your paypal address just in case?

 

robpan@ngi.de

 

 

Best Regards

 

Robert

www.targetrecords.de

 

 

 

Shit, Man. Is it that hard to answer a question? The idiot should understand that I never had business with him and I have a legitimate reason to ask as many questions as I want. Well, sucks to be him, because I already bought Cane and actually I was interested in a few items of his with a value of approximately 100-150 Euros.

 

By the way, if anyone has Big Rat-S/T original in a mint condition for sale-let's talk about it.

 

 

Just wanted to share my experience with the rest of you.

Thank you.

Denis.

 

Edited to remove personal information. Probably not a good idea to post your phone numbers here for all the world to see. -Dan

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Exactly!!

What the f*** is this? I thought I was asking quite normal questions. Well, if that's the way he treats his customers, then screw his business.

 

For instance, for me 10 cents wouldn't be an issue, but I know for some people it is, that's why I asked him-shit, it was for his own good, since he is selling and I'm buying.

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Denis,

 

I edited your post to remove your personal information (address, phone numbers). Not a good idea to post it on any message board for spammers and frauds to harvest...

 

-Dan

 

 

I appreciate it, Dan. I was so enraged that I absolutely forgot about it.

You're the Man.

D.

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I?m sorry to much mails & questions for two CDs. I?m not interest to deal

with you.

 

That's ridiculous.  Don't most sellers want your questions up front rather than after the fact???

 

I agree, after that comment from seller I would be done but since it is such a rarity I can see why you continued to talk to the seller.

 

Now I have sold cds were buyers will emial me and ask me so many questions and you begin to think even though in your oponion your cd is nr mint that you get the feeling that are wanting new or mint. This brings a warning sign up for me and I will ask them not to bid to save any hassle later.

We all no how touchy grades are on border line cds. Sometimes even the smallest thing can be missed or there opinion can be totally different. Ive even went so far to completely block them just to save us both alot of trouble later.

 

However I never told them anything like they told you. No matter how much I might want it I definetly would have to pass....

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Robby Pancur is one of the coolest guys out there and one of the better dealers for sure, met him at deep impact 2004. I think this is a misunderstanding.

:)

 

Misunderstanding???

 

Melodicrockoz,

 

you saw the thread that I copied and pasted-I haven't exaggerated at all.

 

You have your right to consider Robby "one of the coolest guys out there", but if

he expects his FIRST-TIME(!!!) buyers to through a bunch of money at him without questions-he is very far from being "one of the better dealers".

Quite on the contrary, his behavior demonstrates how shitty his attitude is and how shitty he is as a businessman.It was very unprofessional of him to turn me down, saying it's because of the the quetsions I had.

 

Anyway, I found all the items I was interested in next day.

Robby should understand that he is not the only Seller.

I might have overpaid this time, but all my questions were answered and I know that my CDs will be here in time.

Thank you.

Denis.

P.S. Sorry, Melodicrockoz, he maybe a good person for you, but I still think he is just an idiot.

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I dealt with Robert a couple of times without problems and he seemed like a nice and patient guy.

Are the emails you copied here the only ones you sent or did you ask other questions about those two CD's?

 

 

 

I haven't cut anything, so what you see-is the entire e-conversation.

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