CureTheSane

Jack Reacher Never Go Back Was enjoyable enough, but after this we watched the first one again and then realised that the sequel paled against the original. Bit light on the action, wise cracks and fun.

So I took another listen to some earlier Gotthard, and I will now retract parts of my comments. The songs were better across the board, and I do prefer that style of music. I still really like Silver, but it is pretty AOR compared to the earlier stuff.

It isn't Great White at all, and I agree that he shouldn't be using the name for that reason alone. A few songs have a bit of GW in them, but more because of the voice than anything else. I think I'll eventually see this album as being ok, but only if I dissociate it with GW. Kind of like Coverdale and Into The Light. If you were expecting Whitesnake, you'd not be happy.

That's cool. Happy to be in the minority. I wonder if I'll dislike Jack's Great White, because it seems if I like it I'll be in the minority there as well

Well, there's your opinion. Mine is different. I like the songs. I like the ballads better than Steve's. I didn't say there was anything wrong with the production, but it certainly isn't as raw as anything before it.

I'm gonna assume that is a pretty bad score for you. As I've said before, I struggle with your ratings system here. For me an 8/10 is a great song, 7/10 is really good, 6/10 is good and 5/10 is ok

Opinions differ. I like 'em.

Was listing to some Steve stuff today. It all started way rawer production wise, and Steve's voice was quite a bit less rounded. Gradually they became more produced, which isn't a bad thing, probably about right. Once Nic came in, the sound did get a lot softer, with more ballads and less hard rock. Right now I'd say they are overproduced, but it seems to fit the style of softer music (ie: if they were still doing the harder edged songs, they would sound pretty crappy with the current production. So for me, that is how the band changed between singers, and from Firebirth to Silver they have got 'pussier' each album which again I don't mind, but I'm sure that's the main complaint from many others.

Warrant - Louder, Harder, Faster (TBA/Frontiers) Cool thanks. Look forward to this. Last one was pretty damn good.

Yeah, I can understand that, and I do it as well sometimes. But then I remember a Joey C Jones album which I bought and was pretty average on the first spin. Then I listened to it a few times and started to like The Role You Know So Well which I still listen to every now and then. Never would have happened if I hadn't persisted. But then again it can be a slow process to luck in to a few good songs on some average discs. May have to try and be more like you and flip them after a spin or two. Lately all the bands who you'd always play a lot regardless of the first spin have dwindled. All the 80's band still going do a CD every 3 or 4 years, and the rest are wither gone or completely different. Hardcore Superstar is the perfect example of a band who would normally be guaranteed non stop playing of a new CD< but then we got the pile of shit that was their last offering.....

Did I read somewhere that Warrant were putting out a new album?

Not sure hoe you guys listen to so much music. I used to do a lot of country trips which helped me out, and now I get to listen to music on planes a lot and even more in non English speaking countries, but stil only get through maybe 30 to 40 albums a year. That includes EP's It takes me around 5 to 7 listens to properly assess new music - to give it a change to eat into my brain and take hold. Often the songs I instantly like, I tire of quickly, and the songs I thin k of as average on first listen turn out to be great. I have a "new music" folder when I store albums which I haven't heard enough. The is way over 100 in there. Once I feel I can pick the best songs I move it to my albums folder and copy the best tracks to another folder for a future compilation.

Tequila Symphony No.5 get addictive after a while, and I like the little tribute AC/DC riff in Everything nside

Being considered varied by an AOR guy is good new for me....

haha Good on ya for having a go. You got the best 2 songs off Silver. Feel What I Feel would be the best song they've done on the last 3 albums IMO. What I'd say about Silver is that I can see why many aren't massive fans. Hopefully the 2 tracks you think are decent will get a run on a compilation you make sometime.

Production is better than I would have expected. Music from both bands involved in this tended to be on the overproduced side, and Ted's more recent stuff is way move overproduced and syrupy than this.

Jeez you're generous to these guys. I don't think I could make an EP. Heard this new one today, and I skipped through most of it from about song 3 or 4 onwards. Sadly, the band just means absolutely nothing to me at all. Cann't hold my interest for a moment. I think there was a tune called 'Miss me' which I thought had a good chorus hook, but it was so disjointed otherwise. To me it's just a really bland hard rock album. That was my thought.........I've not heard Silver yet, but 20 songs from the new set up??! I reckon I could pick 2 from Bang and another couple maybe from Firebirth which hold up to Lee era Gotthard........ I'm with AlphaMale here. I could easily make a CD of great post Steve tracks. Mine would be FIREBIRTH Starlight Give Me Real Remember It's Me Yippie Aye Yay Tell Me Shine BANG Bang! Feel What I Feel C'est La Vie My Belief Maybe What You Get SILVER Stay With Me Beautiful Everything Inside Reason For This Not Fooling Anyone Miss Me Tequila Symphony No.5 Only Love is Real My Oh My

For me Miss Me is the best song on the CD, along with Stay With Me Other great tunes are Tequila Symphony No 5 Everything Inside Beautiful Not fooling Anyone Reason For This Only Love Is Real The first couple are average, then I don't skip until the end of the record, with the last few - tracks 13, 14 and 15 also being average. Still a great hit/miss ratio if you ask me. One of my kids so far isn't sold on it as she was expecting rockier heavier stuff. I admit that it is on the softer side, but I don't mind that at all.

Arrival. Very slow movie, feeding small bits of information as it goes. The kind of movie you watch hoping it's all gonna be worthwhile when the ending happens. One for those who like thinking arty movies.

I'm really looking forward to this album. Would like to hear Ted with less rounded vocals, but there may be a reason he doesn't sing that way. The music is a bit more hard rock than AOR compared to more recent Ted stuff, which i like. As for the Cockroach comment before, I think it had a lot to do with how old it was when I got to hear it. What was it 10 years since it was made until it was released? One day I probably should give it another go.

OK, so I've listened to Silver, and I like it. A Lot Not sure if it's because I don't preconceive what a bands next album will sound like, or maybe just that it's more my type of music than it is for some others here. They were never going to be the same band they were with Steve. I don't think comparing the eras is fair. Better to compare to the other 2 albums with Nic

Everyone seems to like Lionville. I've never heard them, or I don't recall it Can someone please compare them to some other bands so I know whether they are my kind of music or not?

I started watching it to tease a couple of my kids who love it. They are in bed when it's on so weren't up to date and I'd get up and start with "you should have seen the regular show last night..." and then start to make them jealous relaying what happened. Gradually the moved from watching to tease them to watching because I liked the show. Pops rules

If there are 3 really great on it, I'ma happy Rather that then a whole album of average to good songs Haven't had a proper listen yet, but will do so not expecting much...

I like it.