AI generated music… is this where we’re heading?

[Darkstone]

Hey Geoff and Glen.

I just received this email from Suno announcing a new feature to edit existing songs without generating a new one.

It sounds like just the thing you've been waiting for Geoff.

I'll have a bit of a play with it on the weekend.

Unfortunately though, it's only available to paid subscribers.

 

 

[Geoff]

Yeah mate, saw that this morning too. Please let us know how you go with it. I’m away for a long weekend so won’t get to play around with this, but this email has made me consider subscribing. Sadly it’s not quite that simple for me as I make everything difficult, lol. I actually have several Suno accounts with several email addresses so I need to find a way to merge them, if possible, to take full advantage of this. Doubt it will be possible, but if so it’d be such a massive thing for me. If I could go back and tweak all my favourite tracks to a point where I wouldn’t be (too?) embarrassed to share them that’d be massive. 
 

So yeah, would definitely appreciate your feedback if possible.  

[Darkstone]

48 minutes ago, Geoff said:

Yeah mate, saw that this morning too. Please let us know how you go with it. I’m away for a long weekend so won’t get to play around with this, but this email has made me consider subscribing. Sadly it’s not quite that simple for me as I make everything difficult, lol. I actually have several Suno accounts with several email addresses so I need to find a way to merge them, if possible, to take full advantage of this. Doubt it will be possible, but if so it’d be such a massive thing for me. If I could go back and tweak all my favourite tracks to a point where I wouldn’t be (too?) embarrassed to share them that’d be massive. 
 

So yeah, would definitely appreciate your feedback if possible.  

No worries mate.

I'll let you know.

 

[Glen]

On 10/9/2024 at 10:46 AM, Geoff said:

Haha, I have actually used that one a bit, cob. You think it makes a big difference? Always so hard to tell which prompts land and which don't when you use 10 or so prompts. But I'll be sure to keep that one up front, though. And play with it tonight. 

I used the "big production" one again last night and songs were definitely crisper than the night before when a lot of my results were very "treble-y" for lack of a better term. So big production and big drums up high in the mix tonight. 

Anyway, peaks and troughs. I'm going through a passage where I'm penning a whole bunch of new tracks. I do a lot of driving, but also a quite a bit of walking for my job, and I've got in the habit of jotting stuff down in my Notes app whenever something comes to me as I walk around, and trying to pump out a few new tunes.

A few by-the-numbers melodic rock tracks mostly, but I got one yesterday and I really loved the outcome. A bit of a more "random" tune, but I'll be cursed if I don't actually quite like how this one came out;

https://suno.com/song/885e4b14-3e08-45cf-8e33-d2e1cfd04e42

did you write those lyrics? Bit random. 

[Geoff]

19 hours ago, Glen said:

did you write those lyrics? Bit random. 

Haha, yes mate, I’ve written lyrics for everything I’ve done with Suno. And yep, very random indeed, that one. Hence the ‘words for the sake of words’ line, lol. 

[Darkstone]

Darkstone - Rise Above (2024).  

Okay, here's 3 versions of song number 7.

More cheesy lyrics and I'm also adding a female keyboard player with co Lead Vocal duties to my fictional band. Don't know her name yet. Any suggestions? 

The female vocals seem more emotive for some reason. 

The second and third are sort of (the third in particular) left field, but they work.

I actually think Version 3 may be my "Stairway To Heaven".  

it's also an example of how insanely realistic the vocals are with this stuff. 

As for your feedback Geoff, I've not been able to use the new features. I just use my 10" Android tablet for this, not a computer. 

I can access them, but I think using a touchscreen might be fucking me up... I don't know.

I can always contact Suno support. I have before and they were incredibly helpful. 

If you subscribe and have better luck, let me know. There's a few little quirks I'd like to correct as well.

 

https://suno.com/song/63c438be-e2d4-4349-aec1-d5dae772fd58

 

https://suno.com/song/daf787fc-9c16-40b9-809f-2d1d6ba12453

 

https://suno.com/song/376a7ae4-a42d-4d18-9c63-b5c380ae27d6

Edited 11 hours ago by Darkstone

[Geoff]

4 hours ago, Darkstone said:

Darkstone - Rise Above (2024).  

Okay, here's 3 versions of song number 7.

More cheesy lyrics and I'm also adding a female keyboard player with co Lead Vocal duties to my fictional band. Don't know her name yet. Any suggestions? 

The female vocals seem more emotive for some reason. 

The second and third are sort of (the third in particular) left field, but they work.

I actually think Version 3 may be my "Stairway To Heaven".  

it's also an example of how insanely realistic the vocals are with this stuff. 

As for your feedback Geoff, I've not been able to use the new features. I just use my 10" Android tablet for this, not a computer. 

I can access them, but I think using a touchscreen might be fucking me up... I don't know.

I can always contact Suno support. I have before and they were incredibly helpful. 

If you subscribe and have better luck, let me know. There's a few little quirks I'd like to correct as well.

 

https://suno.com/song/63c438be-e2d4-4349-aec1-d5dae772fd58

 

https://suno.com/song/daf787fc-9c16-40b9-809f-2d1d6ba12453

 

https://suno.com/song/376a7ae4-a42d-4d18-9c63-b5c380ae27d6

Version #1 for me. I still don't know about a lot of the male vocals, but yeah, no doubt at all that - for whatever reason - the female vocals do sound realistic for sure. How did you get them without requesting female vocals?

No worries about the new features. Yeah, might be a tablet/computer compatibility issue. I'm not sure what to do now. They got back to me and said they could merge all my accounts, which is what I wanted, but now that means I'll only have those 5 songs to play with each day, unless I upgrade my plan. Which I probably will. 

I have thousands of photos from the weekend to go through so I might get a little side-tracked for a minute or two, but I'll think this through a bit more. The other thing I'm not sure about that I kind of don't want to ask and just hope for the best, is they say you don't have commercial rights to a song created when you're not subscribed. Not ideal, but okay. But, what if you go back with the new features and tweak an old song? Is that now considered a new song done while you're a subscriber, this making it commercially useable? I'd assume (and hope) so.  

[Glen]

on the commercial side, I definitely had a suno song on my release radar on Spotify last Friday. Instantly recognised the AI dude lol. When I looked at the song credits there was no reference to Suno. I thought you still needed to reference them 🤔 The guy had 4 songs on his Spotify page, all 4 mins long. One had 137,000 streams which even at Spotify crap payments is a decent bit of dosh? few hundreds $? 

Edited 6 hours ago by Glen

[Darkstone]

4 hours ago, Glen said:

on the commercial side, I definitely had a suno song on my release radar on Spotify last Friday. Instantly recognised the AI dude lol. When I looked at the song credits there was no reference to Suno. I thought you still needed to reference them 🤔 The guy had 4 songs on his Spotify page, all 4 mins long. One had 137,000 streams which even at Spotify crap payments is a decent bit of dosh? few hundreds $? 

If your a paid subscriber, you completely own the rights to your songs and your not obligated to reference SUNO at all.

They say that they'd appreciate it if you do reference them, but your not obligated to.

[Darkstone]

5 hours ago, Geoff said:

Version #1 for me. I still don't know about a lot of the male vocals, but yeah, no doubt at all that - for whatever reason - the female vocals do sound realistic for sure. How did you get them without requesting female vocals?

No worries about the new features. Yeah, might be a tablet/computer compatibility issue. I'm not sure what to do now. They got back to me and said they could merge all my accounts, which is what I wanted, but now that means I'll only have those 5 songs to play with each day, unless I upgrade my plan. Which I probably will. 

I have thousands of photos from the weekend to go through so I might get a little side-tracked for a minute or two, but I'll think this through a bit more. The other thing I'm not sure about that I kind of don't want to ask and just hope for the best, is they say you don't have commercial rights to a song created when you're not subscribed. Not ideal, but okay. But, what if you go back with the new features and tweak an old song? Is that now considered a new song done while you're a subscriber, this making it commercially useable? I'd assume (and hope) so.  

Sometimes, depending on the styles you choose, a female voice just pops up randomly. 

One of my tracks is a duet, but I didn't type that in, it just popped up.

As for your commercial rights, that's an interesting question. You should inquire, but I think you may have to regenerate your tracks once subscribed for full ownership. 

You'll get heaps of credits to play with and I think you'll enjoy the process. You'll really be able to refine your tracks.

I'm very fussy with mine. If the vocals or music sound shit in any way or even if there's a minor glitch with pronunciation or a line isn't sung right, I'll trash it immediately until I get something better. Something far better always pops up. The hardest part is settling on a finished song. You always want to try just one more generation to see what you get. I reckon I'd trash about 100 unsuitable tracks for everyone I keep.