AI generated music… is this where we’re heading?

[Darkstone]

2 hours ago, Geoff said:

It’s weird that you can’t seem to have it all just yet. I heard about another one called Mureka AI which seems to have it all, on paper. Has some top line vocal options, but when it comes down to the song creation, it’s awful. Udio, I believe, also has better vocal options, but I don’t like the results there either. 
 

Whereas Suno is pretty awesome at a lot of other stuff, but the vocals still sound very AI. Male vocals, anyway. And it’s a minefield to change a lyric… 

Never heard of Mureka, I might check it out. 

[Geoff]

1 hour ago, Darkstone said:

Never heard of Mureka, I might check it out. 

Yeah I only heard about it on Thursday. Seems similar to Suno except maybe even more exciting (you can post a YouTube link to reference song). You can pick a vocalist too, and some really good ones. Lots of prompt options too. The whole lead up is so promising, but the result was really, really disappointing. I’m sure more time would get you better results, but I went right back to Suno. 
 

Let me know if you have any success and if I need to give it another go. 😏

[Geoff]

3 hours ago, Darkstone said:

Darkstone - Losing You Again (2024)   

Here's 3 versions of song number 8.

The first line of the chorus came to me a couple of days ago, but this is the first time I've had a chance to write stuff around it. There's a couple of different bridges. 

 

 

 

https://suno.com/song/040c346f-3e9e-4cfe-9195-ebe9af35abe4

 

https://suno.com/song/cfd9fc35-7f77-445a-8b7f-58346360332d

 

https://suno.com/song/4edf4f05-c4bb-40dc-a7d2-9b0b879ba781

Nice. #2 for me. I like #3 too, but #2 has my favourite "vibe."

It's funny, I don't even know what "coptic" metal is, lol, but maybe I should use it in my prompts too.

 

[Darkstone]

7 hours ago, Geoff said:

Nice. #2 for me. I like #3 too, but #2 has my favourite "vibe."

It's funny, I don't even know what "coptic" metal is, lol, but maybe I should use it in my prompts too.

 

Yeah, it's number two for me as well.

I'll keep one version of each track for "book one", then I reckon my follow up album (it sounds stupid to even say that) will be something like "DARKSTONE - book two The Alternate Versions".

 

On the Suno "explore" page they have a huge list of styles you can select from.

Click on any style and you'll hear a sample.

"Dark Coptic" caught my eye. Coptic is the name of the Egyptian Christian Religion. I had a listen and it was very dark and very weird. It almost sounded Demonic, like a track being played backwards. I thought I'd try it just to see how weird it would sound, but it gave me great results.

I also seem to get great results with Goth Rock or Goth Metal.

Edited 6 hours ago by Darkstone

[Glen]

if you're not writing your own lyrics you should use ChatGPT. So much better. 

[Darkstone]

Just now, Glen said:

if you're not writing your own lyrics you should use ChatGPT. So much better. 

I wouldn't even think about doing it now without writing my own lyrics. It's so much more satisfying. 

Giving the AI a description of the lyrics you want was fine at the start, but I want to contribute more now and I'll always have those lyrics to use on different platforms in the future when better sites start emerging. 

[Geoff]

4 hours ago, Darkstone said:

Yeah, it's number two for me as well.

I'll keep one version of each track for "book one", then I reckon my follow up album (it sounds stupid to even say that) will be something like "DARKSTONE - book two The Alternate Versions".

 

On the Suno "explore" page they have a huge list of styles you can select from.

Click on any style and you'll hear a sample.

"Dark Coptic" caught my eye. Coptic is the name of the Egyptian Christian Religion. I had a listen and it was very dark and very weird. It almost sounded Demonic, like a track being played backwards. I thought I'd try it just to see how weird it would sound, but it gave me great results.

I also seem to get great results with Goth Rock or Goth Metal.

Yeah, I noticed you using goth a bit too, but the results not sounding overly goth the way I imagine it, but actually providing a pretty cool result. I might even plug it in soon for a test. 

Haha, I like the idea of your part II album. I am generally trying to keep one version of each song so that becomes "the" song, but I do have a couple of versions of some of the ones that were too good to dismiss. 

All that said, I am no covering all my tunes to get a licensable version. Having a lot of issues, lol, but the process is on. 

3 hours ago, Darkstone said:

I wouldn't even think about doing it now without writing my own lyrics. It's so much more satisfying. 

Giving the AI a description of the lyrics you want was fine at the start, but I want to contribute more now and I'll always have those lyrics to use on different platforms in the future when better sites start emerging. 

Yeah, when I discovered the site I put in a few AI lyrics but that only gave me a few minutes of joy as I had no connection to the songs. I don't know if I mentioned it in my first post in this thread, but that's why I played with Suno initially, and then forgot about it for months, until I came back when I saw you could use your own lyrics. 

Most videos you see on youtube are all with people using AI lyrics and that is totally cool for whatever people enjoy, but I'm the same, mate, if I'm not using my own lyrics the longevity isn't there for me at all. As terrible as they are, lol, all my songs are of personal relevance to me - those older ones, I regret to say, too, lol. Not to say each song is based squarely on my life, but even the random fictitious and/or embellished ones are from my own stupid mind. The writing lyrics and seeing the song come to life is what I get a kick out of most with this whole thing. 

[Glen]

I get that and I've done that too. But I also like creating an anthem which I feel could chart. 

For example this. Tried to create a boy band like song but with a rap and street urban styled - I love it and lyrics are great. 

https://suno.com/song/f726cc65-11c3-48d0-a1b5-ecdeb748f63e