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Not sure about everything on the last album but definitely better than a lot of it. This tune just has more going on to make it more interesting. This is more like the kind of stuff Eclipse needs to do instead of rewriting the same 3 minute melodic rock song over and over again.

Spinning the album today. Basically what you'd expect which isn't a bad thing. One thing that stands out a little is some of the backing vocals....Think they did a pretty good job to add some melodies in spots. And Through The Mists of Time is sort of a different vibe. Overall pleasantly surprised. I'm just a casual fan of these guys and haven't paid much attention to anything they've done since about Razors Edge....But I've spun this one a few times now and think it's pretty good. I give these guys credit for still cranking out music though and for sticking to their classic sound and formula. Def Leppard should take a few pointers.

Sounds good to me. I like the sharing of vocals with Jeff and Erik and would like to see more of that on this album in spots. What kills me a little though is this tune would've also made a great Eclipse tune. This is the kind of song with a little variety I'd like to see Eclipse adding into their albums. Either way, good tune and sounds fine as a W.e.t tune also.

Never heard that one but I dig that! More like that would be good!

Good read on that interview. I've spent the last couple days digging into the first 2 albums as I honestly never really gave them much of a chance because they weren't very instant for me. I first got wind of this band after ATN launched and trying to go back to those first 2, they never grabbed me like the Erik albums. But I'll admit I also didn't give them much chance either because I figured Kenny was done with the band and not much reason to fret over it. Anyways, I do like some of the songs on those albums. Yeah, they're still nowhere near the last 4 albums for me but still some good stuff. But I used to think my problem was with Kenny but I think it's more with some of the songs and production. I mean, many of those songs could've had a "meatier" vibe with different production, thicker backing vocals and other things here and there. Instead many of them ended up being very 80's AOR-lite sounding. I think it'll be interesting to hear how they approach future new music. I'd expect and hope they keep the general types of songs and production they had on H.E.A.T II and that Kenny sort of sings to those types of songs. It sounds like with Kenny's comment about Trading Fate that he feels he can sign an edgier style of rock and keep up with the bands evolution.

Agree. The first album wasn't too bad but definitely had some nails on chalkboard moments. Hannes has really matured and learned to control his voice though and these guys are seemingly really on a roll. Carnival Days, Vibration 1 and this new tune are all excellent. Looking forward to the next release and expecting we hear some news fairly soon. And I know I've said this, but also some of the nicest guys you'd ever want to meet which makes it even easier to root for them.

I'm struggling a bit with the album my first couple times through for whatever reason.....but there's a few good tunes. This one definitely one of them and probably would be my favorite on the album.

I with you....exactly how I feel. I feel like there's some good songs. But the production on some of them makes them sound like 80's demos or something IMO. Of course Kenny isn't a bad signer. But he's definitely different than Erik and I guess that's my point. And to me they are VERY different. Kenny to me made the band sound more like Survivor or Toto or something while Erik made them more like 80's Def Leppard/Warrant/Bon Jovi, etc IMO. Almost sounds like two different bands in two different spots on the melodic rock spectrum. It'll be interesting to see where everything goes from here and what sound the band tries to go with.

I'll agree on the production....Maybe Kenny with their updated sound will sound better. I tried again today to listen to those albums and just really struggling. Basically, I think it's stuff I might've liked if I had really started getting into them back in 2008 when it first came out, but that's not when I caught wind of them. I came on board when Address the Nation dropped and was blown away with what I heard. I tried over the years to keep going back to listen to those Kenny albums and they just didn't compare for me. To me, those albums sounded like a completely different band. Now granted, I didn't give them a huge chance either because I figured they were done with that....so I didn't really bother with them much. Now I listen to a song like the original version of Danger Road. It sounds okay....But I can't help but think how much better I liked it when I'd hear Erik doing it live. Same for many of the songs on those albums. And I gave Kenny's solo album a try and couldn't make it through more than a couple songs before having to turn it off. For me at least, just brutal. I'll give the next album a chance just to see how it goes so not saying I've written them off completely yet. But for my tastes, Kenny will need to bring more grit and power to his vocals and they'll need to keep the "beefier" style to have a shot with me. And I question if Kenny can sing that beefier style, if they even keep it. I'll give it a fair shot though out of respect for Dave, Jimmy, Jona and Crash who are talented guys.

They could do that but very few would sell

Exactly. I don't think his voice fits songs like Bastard of Society, Inferno, etc. He's a totally different singer than Erik and I think he'll sound pretty silly trying to do some of those songs. I mean, part of it for me was was almost visualizing Erik on stage with his energy while even listening to studio versions of the songs. You could almost feel his energy oozing through the speakers if that makes any sense. It just brought something intangible to the music. Kenny is a "nice" singer, but he doesn't bring that to the table. It won't surprise me either if they fade away and mail things in after one album with Kenny. I just bet the demand to book them live decreases significantly, ticket sales decrease, album sales take a big hit and they'll wonder why they're still doing it all. Maybe I'll be wrong....time will tell I guess. I just know that I wouldn't go out of my way to see them now. I drove 10 hours each way twice to Chicago to go see them in 2014 & 2017 and no way in heck I'd do that again with Kenny fronting them. It's sad to say but Erik was the kind of guy that people could connect with and he could own an audience. Kenny is nowhere near that. Just sucks. These guys just made a kick ass album and probably had more buzz going than they ever had after the Monsters of Rock cruise. Then this COVID crap came along and killed all momentum.

For me, not good Kenny is replacing Erik. I'd rather see a fresh voice since I already know I don't care for Kenny... They've already been there and done that. They had moved forward and increased their popularity without Kenny. I'd have preferred a fresh, new start. Feels more like 3 steps backwards to me.

Probably not the best day to be listening to new music as I feel like I just got run over by a semi after the H.E.A.T news, but gave this album a spin and just not doing much for me. I like the vibe of the music itself but not really getting into the singer for whatever reason. There's a couple okay tunes but nothing I got the urge to add into my playlist. Maybe I'll try it again when I'm in a better mood.

Mother F$$$$$%%%%k!!!! I feel like my best friend just died. Just when I thought 2020 couldn't get any worse....Can't freaking wait for this year to be over. Just gutted today. These guys had become my favorite band and just like that can now stick a fork in them. I know the Kenny/Erik debate has been done many times but for me Kenny can't hold a candle to Erik and they aren't even in the same league. Erik is what made H.E.A.T interesting with his power, energy and stage presence and he's the reason I became a fan. I never really cared for what they were doing with Kenny and still can't even listen to those first 2 albums even though I've tried many times. I guess I'm thankful for 4 albums of greatness, a couple live albums and that I got to see them live a handful of times. End of an era though. I guess on the bright side I'll be saving myself some money as I had spent a fair amount traveling to see them. And really glad I got to witness them on the last Monsters of Rock cruise which apparently turned out to be their grand finale. It's just a shame as the buzz they generated on that cruise is now all for nothing. Damn COVID! 2020 just sucks

Agree. For my tastes its not been a great year but this one definitely is a stand out.

Sounds like classic AC/DC to me. They definitely have a sound and I applaud them for embracing it. As opposed to say Def Leppard who has a signature sound but seems to fight it.

Meh...Not doing much for me. I definitely preferred their original singer and sound they had on the debut.

I like that tune a lot. I was lukewarm on the first album....like a couple tunes. Didn't care much for the second album. We'll see what this one brings. Will keep eyes on it.

Do you have a link to thread with your playlists? I've also been building some playlists. Also been unloading some CDs as it seems pointless to keep many i havent listened to in years.

Agree...Pretty strange having 3 different singers. Maybe they can pull in Joe Elliott for album #4 as I'd like to hear him singing on some good melodic rock tunes again

I've been a big resister of Spotify in the past but after just getting my first new car without a CD player, decided I'd give the premium a try. Basically, decided to dump Sirius that I never listen to anymore and use that money toward spotify instead. And man, gotta say I'm loving it and I'm like a kid in a candy store. It's awesome having so much music right at your fingertips and the ability to easily make any playlist you desire. And I think one thing I'm really liking is that it's making it easier to discover new music. I've been just playing H.E.A.T radio which is a playlist generated by spotify and it plays a lot of H.E.A.T and artists similar to them. I've heard quite a few tunes already from bands I hadn't paid attention to that I dig and had never listened to before. Yeah, I know this has been around and I'm probably about 5 years behind the times lol. Better late than never I guess Granted, the quality might not be quite as good as CD's. But it still sounds good enough to my ears after selecting high quality streams in the settings. I do still prefer physical products and might still buy a couple CD's a year for albums I really have to have to support some artists. But on the flip side, I rarely will sit down at home and pop a CD in to listen to as most of my listening happens on the go in my car, outside at home or at work. So not sure how much sense it even makes to buy them to just have them sit on my shelf. Just had to toss it out there. If you've made any good spotify playlists you'd like to share, dump them in this thread.

I'd say Rise from H.E.A.T. Just dig this tune and it was awesome Live on the Monsters Of Rock Cruise which is easily far and away my highlight of this crappy year. And this tune just seems to be a good anthem for this year in general.

Listened to this today. Basically, just follows along with the debut IMO. My favorite song on the album is easily the title track which has a cool, heavier edge to it. Frankly, that's probably my favorite song they've done on both albums. After that though, it goes back to the more AOR vibe of the debut. It's one of those albums that I'd rate highly if I were rating it because it's done well and it's excellent AOR. Personally though, it's not exciting me much as I like just a little bit more edge. Can't hold my personal tastes against it though. I was never a big fan of a band like Survivor either but they put out good music. That's kinda the same for these guys for me.

Not too bad. Not sure it's overly grabbing me though. Think I preferred the original singer a bit more. I'll have to give it a few more listens and interested enough to hear a couple more tunes.