Gibbo

At one point, Molly Hatchet had zero original members. Dave Hlubek has since returned, but it's still not the same band to me.

 

I don't even want to talk about Great White.

Exactly!

I don't mind, provided what's being sung fits the song - I listen to a lot of 'extreme' metal bands, many of which sing in their native tongue, and it doesn't bother me at all.

A band like Rammstein just wouldn't sound 'right' if they sang in English.

What DOES put me off is when a foreign band sings in English, but the translation of their lyrics is awful ...

The first Every Mother's Nightmare album ... when it first came out, I loved it, but I stuck it on recently and found myself skipping most of the songs

Following on from the thread about bands that haven't had many/any line-up changes, I got to thinking about how many original/well-known members need to be IN a band for it to be known by a particular name?

An obvious example of this is Guns n' Roses, which is now basically just 'Axl And Blokes'; Thin Lizzy (before they saw sense, and became Black Star Riders) is another.

Is it enough for a certain line-up to have been together for a number of years (regardless of what they may or may not have done in that time) for it to carry a well-known name?

Megadeth: Peace Sells ...

Swords Of Dis: Tides Of Malediction

Sworn Amongst: Evolution EP

Drivin' 'n' Cryin': Fly Me Courageous

 

 

 

Ozzy....The Ultimate Sin was his peak for sure

 

Is that commercially, creatively or both?

 

 

I've been listening to a LOT of Ozzy's stuff of late ... and it struck me that HE didn't actually write a lot of his solo material - Bob Daisley penned a fair few of his songs, Jake E Lee was responsible for a lot of 'Bark' and 'Sin', etc. ... so can we actually talk about Ozzy having a creative peak as a solo artist when a lot of his best-known songs weren't actually down to him? That aside, regardless of who wrote them, I'd say his best body of work can be found between 'Bark' and 'No Rest For The Wicked' ... as much as I love 'Blizzard', I don't think it's as consistent a release as some of his later albums.

 

 

There has been a few articles about this in Classic Rock Magazine over the last couple of years and they don't paint a nice picture of what happened to various band members in Ozzy's solo ventures. I don't remember all the details but yeah not a lot of it was written by Ozzy. Mind you neither was much Sabbath stuff.

 

I think a lot of it is down to Mrs Osbourne ... who can forget her attempts to have Bob Daisley and Lee Kerslake 'airbrushed' from Ozzy's history? Apparently, Jake E Lee had to sign a contract giving up his rights to any credit for the songs on 'Bark At The Moon', otherwise he'd be sacked ... and the mess surrounding Phil Soussan/'Shot In The Dark' is the reason that three of Ozzy's albums haven't been re-issued on CD for nigh on 20 years ...

Some favourite solos:

Lynyrd Skynyrd - Free Bird

Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb

UFO - Rock Bottom (a young Michael Schenker on top of his game)

Thin Lizzy - Emerald (the 'Live And Dangerous' version)

Metallica - Fade to Black

Whitesnake - Cryin' In the Rain (the original version)

.... plus EVH's solo from Beat It

Zombieland

Ozzy....The Ultimate Sin was his peak for sure

 

Twisted Sister....Stay Hungry is the only release worth owning IMO

 

BOC....Fire of Unknown Origin is the best thing they ever did and is one of my top 3 releases of 1981

I love 'Fire ...', but I don't think they ever came as close to brilliance as they did with 'Imaginos'

 

Ozzy....The Ultimate Sin was his peak for sure

 

Is that commercially, creatively or both?

 

I've been listening to a LOT of Ozzy's stuff of late ... and it struck me that HE didn't actually write a lot of his solo material - Bob Daisley penned a fair few of his songs, Jake E Lee was responsible for a lot of 'Bark' and 'Sin', etc. ... so can we actually talk about Ozzy having a creative peak as a solo artist when a lot of his best-known songs weren't actually down to him? That aside, regardless of who wrote them, I'd say his best body of work can be found between 'Bark' and 'No Rest For The Wicked' ... as much as I love 'Blizzard', I don't think it's as consistent a release as some of his later albums.

I'm guessing that absolutely no-one else here will be even REMOTELY interested in this, but me an' the boy JamesEagle will be off to the 2015 Incineration Festival next month: http://incinerationfest.com/

 

At the moment, we have NO idea which bands will be playing which venues (headliners aside), but - if I can - I'd like to see Alcest, Keep Of Kalessin, Melechesh, Necrophobic, God Seed, Centurian, Verdelet, Jotnarr and Woland ... of course, neither of us wants to see the same bands ... I confidently predict a day of confusion, cider, ringing ears and dodgy kebabs ...

So ... I missed Woland, because the initial ticket/wristband exchange took over an hour, but I DID manage to see Aura Noir (better than I expected), Keep Of Kalessin (VERY good), Melechesh (not bad, but a bit samey), Centurian, Funeral Throne (utterly mad and rather brilliant), God Seed (Gorgoroth by any other name) and Necrophobic ... my biggest complaint would be that The Underworld wasn't really big enough for some of the bands that played there (by the time Necrophobic came on, the place was heaving and hotter than Satan's armpit.)

Had a few days of ...

Sheryl Crow: The Globe Sessions

W.A.S.P.: The Crimson Idol

Alice In Chains: Black Gives Way To Blue

Opeth: Blackwater Park

Ozzy Osbourne: The Ultimate Sin

Ozzy Osbourne: Bark At The Moon

Lost In Tears: Dialogue With The Mirror And God

The Outfield: Voices Of Babylon

Motorhead: Rock 'n' Roll

Mike Oldfield: Voyager

Kate Bush: The Red Shoes

Some more charity shops finds - looks like someone has got rid of their whole collection ...

Megadeth: Peace Sells

Ozzy Osbourne: Just Say Ozzy

Ozzy Osbourne: Bark At The Moon (remastered version w/bonus track)

Running Wild: Death Or Glory

Opeth: Still Life (Deluxe 2 disc version)

Sheryl Crow: Wildflower

Deep Purple: Made In Japan (2 disc version)

W.A.S.P.: The Crimson Idol (2 disc version)

Mike Oldfield: Voyager

Motorhead: Rock 'n' Roll (remastered version w/bonus tracks)

 

It's Coverdale covering songs that launched his career in the 70s ... I just don't see the point ...

Listen tot it, the point might become clearer. Love it so far!

 

I'm glad you're enjoying it ... but I'll stick with the original Deep Purple albums

Fillin' some gaps in the 'post divorce' collection:

Zombieland

Shaun Of The Dead

The Night Watch

The Hard Way

Bill And Ted's Excellent Adventure

Bill And Ted's Bogus Journey

The Craft

Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure

Beetlejuice

How about Twisted Sister? Ozzy Osbourne? Blue Oyster Cult?

It's Coverdale covering songs that launched his career in the 70s ... I just don't see the point ...

Some chariddy shop finds (mostly to replace vinyl or CDs that I stupidly sold whilst I was married )

Blessed By A Broken Heart: Pedal To The Metal

Eagles: Long Road Out Of Eden

James: Gold Mother

Megadeth: Youthanasia

Opeth: Blackwater Park

Ozzy Osbourne: The Ultimate Sin

Ozzy Osbourne: No Rest For The Wicked (w/bonus tracks)

Terrorvision: Whales & Dolphins (The Best Of ...)

Twisted Sister: Love Is For Suckers

Velvet Revolver: Contraband

I'll be picking up Second Coming, THAT'S for sure ... one of my favourite albums.

The Outfield: Voices Of Babylon (to replace the copy I foolishly sold some years ago!)

 

'Dog Soldiers' ...

Great fun, have to pull it out again!

 

I'd forgotten how good it was ... and how much attention they payed to detail when it comes to the whole football match back story ...

All the changes to the original three over the years don't bother me. I've seen the originals without additions and the latest additions recently and i like them both.

 

One of my earliest memories is from seeing A New Hope at the cinema with my dad. It's not a clear one though being only 2 and all

Aside from the addition of whiny, emo-boy to the end sequence of 'ROTJ', the one change that REALLY bothers me is the whole Han/Greedo scene ... George, mate - HAN SHOT FIRST!

I see 'Finland', and I think of the Monty Python guys singing:

Finland, Finland, Finland.
The country where I want to be,
Pony trekking or camping,
Or just watching TV,
Finland, Finland, Finland.
It's the country for me.

You're so near to Russia.
So far from Japan,
Quite a long way from Cairo,
Lots of miles from Vietnam.

Finland, Finland, Finland.
The country where I want to be,
Eating breakfast or dinner,
Or snack lunch in the Hall,
Finland, Finland, Finland.
Finland has it all.

You're so sadly neglected,
And often ignored.
A poor second to Belgium,
When going abroad.

Finland, Finland, Finland.
The country where I quite want to be,
Your mountains so lofty,
Your treetops so tall,
Finland, Finland, Finland.
Finland has it all.

Finland, Finland, Finland.
The country where I quite want to be,
Your treetops so tall,
Finland, Finland, Finland.
Finland has it all.

Finland has it all ...

While I agree that CD buying is down and DLR's voice sounds bad,they still did a lot of promoting.I heard in LA when they were on Jimmy Kimmel that the streets were crowded with people to hear them play.

And there you have it ... as has been said elsewhere, with Van Halen (particularly with DLR at the helm), it's all about the show. I'd still pay money to see them in concert (although the chances of them EVER playing the UK again are on the far side of remote), or I'd think about picking up a live DVD, but I wouldn't want to sit through a live album from the current line-up.

When I think about my favourite live albums, they all come from a certain point in time - Thin Lizzy, UFO, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, AC/DC, Motorhead, Blue Oyster Cult ... all bands at the top of their game, before the days when EVERYTHING was filmed and stuck on the internet, and there was a real excitement about hearing your favourite songs performed in front of a crowd (or, in Priest's case, performed in front of a crowd, and then over-dubbed to within an inch of their lives!)