Gibbo

Ok what about Alice Cooper? Another artist that has a discography that spans era's?

I love da Coop ... although he's had more ups and downs than a whore's underwear ....

'Billion Dollar Babies' (when it was still the Alice Cooper BAND)

'Welcome To My Nightmare' (70s solo)

'Constrictor'/'Raise Your Fist And Yell'/'Trash' (80s resurrection)

'The Last Temptation'/'Brutal Planet' (90s/end of the century)

'Along Came A Spider'/'Welcome 2 My Nightmare' ...

Damn! This is a hard one!

Watched 'Furry Vengeance' with my eldest daughter ...

What WAS Brendan Fraser thinking??

How many members of L.A. Guns?

 

I think I've even been in LA Guns ...

While I realize that CD sales are in decline and such,it still surprised me that Van Halen's live CD had a debut of #20 on Billboard 's top 200 and then the next week fell to #60.With all the promotion they did by going on as many talk shows as they could I thought a top 10 showing would happen..

You're forgetting that they sound like shit on the album ...

 

Wot Jez said.

 

Pretty much spot on....although i don't think HOL ever topped their debut imo.

 

And i still have a soft spot for 1987 even though i prefer old school Whitesnake

 

So is it possible that an artist can have two peaks? and if so who would qualify? Aerosmith, Kiss and Whitesnake?

 

I'd certainly agree that Aerosmith have peaked twice (see earlier post! )

I'd also say that Van Halen fall into this category ('Fair Warning' and 'Balance' for me, at least)

I'm an 'old-school' Whitesnake fan, and not really keen on what they've done since Dave discovered MTV and the bleach bottle, but I know there are some strange people out there who like both incarnations

I haven't really listened to KISS properly since the days of 'Animalize' ... apart from the odd song, here and there ...

I don't know the Pretty Maids stuff i'm afraid.

 

We've done two of the big four so what about Anthrax and Slayer?

Anthrax ... I'd go with 'Persistence Of Time' ... 'Among The Living' was good, but 'PoT' has the edge (I saw them with Iron Maiden at the time of 'PoT', and they were superb!)

Slayer ... again, I'm usually swimming against the tide when I say that I think 'South Of Heaven' was their peak ... it combined the nastiness and venom of their earlier material with songs that didn't just fly by at 'however-many-bpm-Lombardo-could-manage' ...

 

 

Aerosmith - Good call splitting them in to two periods like Kiss. I never really gelled with the Toxic Twin era so can't really comment.

 

Megadeth - You'd put So Far So Good above Rust in Peace? Wow!

 

I'm ashamed to say i've heard nothing by Whitesnake prior to '87 which i owned on Cassette and wore out on the way to school

 

Dokken - Not keen on them then?

 

W.A.S.P. - Headless Children is probably about right. I love The Crimson Idol though but i suspect i'm in a minority on that one.

 

I know I'm probably in a very small minority, but 'So Far, So Good ...' resonates with me far more than what came afterwards. Like I said, I'm a big fan of everything they did up to 'Youthanasia', but 'So Far ...' is the last album where they sounded truly snotty and belligerent ... they seemed to grow up after that

I'm forever arguing with my mate James about Whitesnake - he prefers their post-1987, MTV-friendly, arena rock ... I prefer their 'bluesier' material (although the remixed version of their 'Slide It In' album, with John Sykes adding guitar, is pretty good )

I do like me some Dokken ... 'Tooth And Nail' just stands out for me - plus, it's got my absolute favourite Dokken track, 'Don't Close Your Eyes'

I like 'The Crimson Idol', but it never did it for me in the same way that 'The Headless Children' did.

My kids tell me off if I call the first (1977) film 'Star Wars' ... I should be calling it 'A New Hope', apparently ...

I can remember queueing around the block with my Dad to see 'Star Wars' and 'The Empire Strikes Back' ... I can't watch 'Return Of The Jedi' now that Hayden Christensen has been added at the end instead of the guy who originally played Anakin ... thanks, George!

'Dog Soldiers' ...

Whitesnake have managed something like 32 or 33 different members over the years ... Cradle Of Filth are currently up to 39 (albeit that some of them were only ever touring members) ... surprisingly, Rainbow have only had something like 25 different members ...

Metallica-Black Album

AC/DC-Back In Black

Aerosmith-Permanent Vacation

Kiss-Creatures Of The Night

Van Halen-5150

G'n'R-Appetite

Motley Crue-Dr Feelgood

Tesla-The Great Radio Controversy

 

some others for me

 

Def Leppard-Hysteria

LA Guns-Cocked & Loaded

Scorpions-Savage Amusement

Whitesnake-87

Slaughter-Stick It To Ya

King Kobra-III

House Of Lords-Demons Down

Dokken-Back For The Attack

Cinderella-Long Cold Winter

Great White-Twice Shy

Harem Scarem-s/t

Kix-Blow My Fuse

Ratt-Detonator

Okay, so ...

Aerosmith - 'Rocks' (their 'Toxic Twins' peak) and 'Pump' (when they were 'clean')

Motorhead - for me, creatively, it has to be 'Orgasmatron' (although, commercially, they probably peaked well before that)

Megadeth - a tough one this, for me ... I love all of their albums up to 'Youthanasia' ... but if I had to pick one as my defining 'Deth album, it would be 'So Far, So Good ... So What!'

Tesla - 'The Great Radio Controversy', with 'Psychotic Supper' running a very close second, creatively ...

Def Leppard - 'Hysteria', no question ... I like a lot of what they've done since, but they didn't put a foot wrong on that album

LA Guns - I never really bothered with Phil and the boys outside of their debut ...

Scorpions - Love At First Sting

Whitesnake - I think I've probably said more than enough about how I don't like anything they've done since 'Slide It In' ... their peak, for me, has to be 'Come An' Get It'

Dokken - Tooth And Nail

Cinderella - Long Cold Winter

Great White/Harem Scarem/Kix/Slaughter/King Kobra/House Of Lords - never bothered much with any of these bands, aside from the odd track (or, in Slaughter's case, their debut ... although I saw Great White support Alice Cooper ... they were ... okay.)

How about W.A.S.P.? I'd say that they never bettered 'The Headless Children' ...

I used to buy Classic Rock regularly (until, as others have pointed out, it went downhill) ... now I pick up back issues from a local market every now and then for a fraction of the cover price (and all with their cover CDs, etc.)

I read Kerrang! religiously when I was in my teens (who remembers the 'controversial' Prince cover?) It's been shite for years now ...

I subscribe to 'Zero Tolerance', which is aimed at the more extreme end of the musical spectrum.

 

 

 

London goes a bit mad the minute the sun comes out ... and the trains stop running properly because of 'the heat' ... *rolls eyes* ..

 

That's exactly what happened to us!

One of the headaches: the bloody trains were cancelled. Several times. We waited about 1 hour in bloody Luton 'cause of that.

The kids were tired, the grown-ups were tired, everybody in the freaking town were tired...

 

 

I'm just waiting for it to get a bit warmer, 'cause THEN the overhead wires apparently sag in the heat ... which means that the trains can't run ...

 

You couldn't make it up!

 

 

its as bad in the winter - one leaf on the line and the trains stop (although my line is pretty good now) and a sprinkle of snow and the country grinds to a halt.

 

Which line do you use, Glen? I use the Liverpool Street line, and it's been a bit of a joke recently (especially in the evening) ... it's like they're surprised if it rains/snows or if it's hot ...

 

 

I envy you lot.

 

Really? Why's that?

 

 

Because we (over 40) were teenagers in the golden era of great music.

 

Hell, yeah! My cousin is considerably younger than I am, and he's ALWAYS moaning about how he never got to see (insert name of any prime 80s/90s band here) ...

I never wind him up about it. Honest.

You've only got 5 or 6 years on me and i don't feel old I was born a bit too late, i only caught the tale end of the era when i was old enough to properly enjoy it.

I certainly don't FEEL old - although my kids do like to tell me just how ancient I am

I just remembered a couple of other songs that have made it onto various 'party' compilations over the years:

Aerosmith: Dude (Looks Like A Lady) and Rag Doll

Warrant: Cherry Pie

AC/DC: Highway To Hell

 

Now this has got me thinking about other bands that I listen to a fair bit ...

 

Iron Maiden (for me, it would have to be the late '80s - probably 'Seventh Son ...')

AC/DC (they're always brilliant live, but I don't think they've released a truly great album since 'Back In Black')

Judas Priest ('Painkiller')

Guns n' Roses (I know most people would say that their 'Illusion' days were their peak, but I'd say they never really matched the snarling brilliance of their debut)

Motley Crue?

KISS?

Metallica (the 'Black Album', no question - mit's all been a bit shite since then)

Van Halen? (I'd be interested to know what people think)

Queensryche?

 

Um ...

 

AC/DC - I've never been a fan of Brian Johnson so for me it would be Highway To Hell

Judas Priest - Painkiller

Guns n' Roses - Appetite

Motley Crue - Dr Feelgood?

Kiss - Classic era i'd say Destroyer. The 80's kiss resurgence how about Crazy Nights.

Metallica - ...And Justice For All

Van Halen - It's most likely 1984

Queensryche - Has to be Operation Mindcrime

 

When it comes to the Crue, my favourite album was, is and will always be 'Shout At The Devil' ... I know most people cite 'Feelgood' as their peak, but I think there's some serious filler on that album ...

I never really liked 'Justice' - that was a real dip after the brilliance of 'Master of Puppets' ... long, rambling songs, and a lot of it blurs into one for me

When it comes to DLR-era Van Halen, 'Fair Warning' always tops '1984' in Gibbo Towers - there's more 'light and shade' on the former, while the latter contains 'Girl Gone Bad', which has me reaching for the 'skip' button every time ... I think with Hagar they went out on a high with 'Balance'

Queensryche? 'Mindcrime', no question.

What about, say, Aerosmith? Or Motorhead? Megadeth? Tesla?

Blimey, you could go on forever!

 

Anyway, Gibbo, I have to say. Are you on the stonecracks, or was that a typo? Most people would call Guns N' Roses prime the 'Illusiions?' Are you talking a purely commercial perspective? Because if not, I think 100% of people would agree that 'Appetite' was far and away their prime.

 

As for Motley Crue, it'd have to be 'Dr Feelgood' for me for sure. KISS is hard as I never listened to their 70's stuff, so it would be 'Crazy Nights,' for me personally. Though that's a bit silly as all their real success was in the 70's.

Ha! Ha! Ha! I'm not talking about their creative prime - any fool knows that was their debut (I'm just glad Axl didn't get his way and have 'November rain' included on there!)

 

London goes a bit mad the minute the sun comes out ... and the trains stop running properly because of 'the heat' ... *rolls eyes* ..

 

Haha! We truly live on the upside down version of that here in Australia. The moment a drop of rain falls the trains here all explode and they can't move anymore and every single one has to be delayed or cancelled completely. Apparently trains and tracks in Australia are not waterproof.

 

If our rail companies ever start buying up rolling stock from Down Under, this country is f***ked!

 

London goes a bit mad the minute the sun comes out ... and the trains stop running properly because of 'the heat' ... *rolls eyes* ..

 

That's exactly what happened to us!

One of the headaches: the bloody trains were cancelled. Several times. We waited about 1 hour in bloody Luton 'cause of that.

The kids were tired, the grown-ups were tired, everybody in the freaking town were tired...

 

I'm just waiting for it to get a bit warmer, 'cause THEN the overhead wires apparently sag in the heat ... which means that the trains can't run ...

You couldn't make it up!

 

There are a few bands i like that have maintained their line-ups throughout their careers ... it's another thing to say if they're 'popular', though ... The Smiths and Senseless Things both spring to mind, but they're hardly HH favourites ...

 

The Smiths? You mean hardly anyone's favourite?

 

A bit harsh!

That just makes me wonder how old you are

45 ... hurtling towards 46 ...

I'm so old, I saw the original Gn'R line-up in 1988

Morons who can't bear to take their eyes off their phone - even when they're walking along the pavement. No, that's okay - I'LL get out of YOUR way!

Now this has got me thinking about other bands that I listen to a fair bit ...

Iron Maiden (for me, it would have to be the late '80s - probably 'Seventh Son ...')

AC/DC (they're always brilliant live, but I don't think they've released a truly great album since 'Back In Black')

Judas Priest ('Painkiller')

Guns n' Roses (I know most people would say that their 'Illusion' days were their peak, but I'd say they never really matched the snarling brilliance of their debut)

Motley Crue?

KISS?

Metallica (the 'Black Album', no question - mit's all been a bit shite since then)

Van Halen? (I'd be interested to know what people think)

Queensryche?

Um ...

For me, their peak came with 'Keep The Faith' (which I think is by far and away their best album). 'New Jersey' gets played a fair bit (although I skip the ballad), and I like 'These Days', but nothing much after that grabbed me.

Once again, I'm swimming against the tide when it comes to their debut (I like 'Runaway' and 'Roulette', that's about it), and there's only one song on '7800' that I like so, hey, what do I know?

 

 

Cats in boots - Kicked and Clawed

Icon - Right Between the Eyes

Nice! Love that Icon

Its good not great.

 

np

 

Swedish Erotica - s/t

 

(Another disc which has not aged well)

 

Yeah - I used to listen to this one a LOT ... now, I find myself skipping a lot of the tracks