Captain Howdy

Nice to see Southgang footage in that second video. Thats the first time I have seen Butch actually acknowledge that era of his career.

Seems they have still not resolved their issues with Scott, but nice to hear that if Loran ever wants to come back, he will always be welcome. https://blabbermouth.net/news/steve-brown-says-trixter-will-never-reunite-with-mark-gus-scott-he-was-an-adequate-drummer-at-best-anyway STEVE BROWN Says TRIXTER Will 'Never' Reunite With MARK 'GUS' SCOTT: He 'Was An Adequate Drummer At Best Anyway' September 26, 2023 In a new interview with Robert Miguel of Uvalde Radio Rocks, TRIXTER guitarist Steve Brown was asked about the possibility of him and other members of the band's classic lineup reuniting to play their first shows since 2017. He said (as transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET): "Pete's [Loran, TRIXTER singer] a brother. We talk all the time and everything's cool there. I just think that Pete's — look, he's always welcome. He can come out whenever he wants. He's always welcome to come on stage and play with [me and TRIXTER bassist P.J. Farley]. And we've gotten offers over the past couple years, and we've presented it, 'Hey, we want the band,' and it just doesn't work out. And there's nothing I can say more about it, other than the fact that, with the drummer [Mark 'Gus' Scott], sadly that's a problem that'll never be repaired in my mind. So that you're never gonna see the original TRIXTER back with the drummer again. But you might see Pete fronting us with a different drummer, which is fine, 'cause that guy was an adequate drummer at best anyway." In recent months, Brown and Farley have been performing acoustic TRIXTER shows backed by Ben Hans on percussion. This past June, Loran told the "Rimshots With Sean" podcast that he was still "cordial" with Brown and Farley. "I actually just saw P.J. about three weeks ago," he said. "He was out here [near my home in Arizona] — he's out with Chris Jericho's FOZZY, and they were doing UFEST here in Phoenix with GODSMACK. And he had called me up and said, 'Let's get together. Let's grab some lunch.' And I hadn't seen him since probably 2017. And it was needed. For me, it was needed. We had really kind of talked past what had happened. So we're great. It was really good for me. Gus, on the other hand, with those guys, not so much… And they've all done interviews and really talked some shit about each other, which — I get it, I guess. "I think if you got all four of us in a room, within a short, reasonable amount of time, everyone would be hugging each other [and saying] 'I'm sorry' or whatever," Pete continued. "As far as doing a gig, I don't know about that. But it would be nice if that could happen, though — at least that part… And I'd like that to happen. I don't know if they'd like that to happen, but it would be good. The possibility of doing shows? I don't know if that ever happens again. But those guys [P.J. and Steve] are very busy, number one; they always have been. But they're also doing like a TRIXTER acoustic thing. And if they ever roll through Phoenix, I'll probably jump up there and do a couple of songs. I don't see why not." Pete went on to lament the fact that Gus, Steve and P.J. have been unable to mend their differences. "These are guys that have known each other since junior high, grew up in the same town, started a band together," he noted. "Gang mentality — us against them. 'We're getting a record deal. Now we're gonna open up for the SCORPIONS in front of 18 thousand people, and we're gonna have to kick them in the teeth because we want them to accept us.' And all the accolades and whatnot throughout the years. It would be kind of sad to let that just all get kicked to the side because of something stupid. My opinion." Both Brown and Farley have been critical of Scott in recent interviews, with Steve saying that the drummer is on "the shit list beyond belief" with the rest of the group, while P.J. compared being in a band with Mark to owning a disobedient dog. "Sometimes you let the dog off a leash and he just goes running to the middle of the street — no good," he said. Since reuniting in 2008, TRIXTER has released two studio albums via Frontiers Music Srl — 2012's "New Audio Machine" and 2015's "Human Era". TRIXTER toured extensively in the United States, Canada and Japan in support of its five major label releases. They have performed live in arenas and amphitheaters with crowds up to 35,000 people, appearing with such rock superstars as KISS, SCORPIONS, POISON, TED NUGENT, NIGHT RANGER, CINDERELLA, TWISTED SISTER, DOKKEN, WARRANT, GREAT WHITE and FIREHOUSE. In a January 2022 interview with "The Bay Ragni Show", Gus stated about his relationship with his bandmates: "I haven't spoken to P.J. or Steve at all. There has been no activity as far as putting the band successfully back together at all. And to be honest with you, although my skirmish with those guys may be more well known, there's more layers to the problem between us, unfortunately. It involves the whole band, as far as seriousness to play and things like that or where they prioritize that thing. But that's neither here nor there. I think overall there's no deep-hearted desire on some people's part to really put it back together. And that's the biggest shame of all. And I think that's also the biggest obstacle to me to as far as even having a desire to reach out. Which sounds terrible. Honestly, as a friend, that's something that I wrestled with myself. Whether he pissed me off or I pissed him off is somewhat immaterial. Those sorts of things ought to take a secondary seat to anything else that we've accomplished together, and that should always be a priority. So at one point I've gotta believe I'm gonna break down and give a shout at least and say hey. It's stupid that it's gone this far, and I'm myself to blame equally as well. But no, as far as making any progress, unfortunately, no — there's been none. I think the biggest problem is there are some people that really just do not care or just do not want to do it to the level that it takes to wanna put it back together. And that's the biggest shame for everybody, I think. That's ultimately what bothers me the most, I think." Scott also touched upon the various projects some of the other TRIXTER members are involved with, including Farley's current stint with FOZZY and both Brown's and Farley's collaboration with Eric Martin from MR. BIG. "I think the biggest reason why I don't reach out [and] why a bigger effort hasn't been made on anybody's part is these guys are out with all these other projects, doing all this other stuff, and they didn't care to do TRIXTER first?" he said. "They fail to believe that there was potential to be at least… Like the idea of us going back to Japan. Oh, what a horrible idea that would be. Oh, it couldn't possibly be successful if we did something like that. The idea of really approaching this situation with a certain mindframe, that's the part that kills me the most. You actually don't see the potential or have the desire for that. Even if we did not have the potential, I love the music so much, I would do it for nothing; I'd pay somebody to get on that stage. Whereas they — apparently — do not possess that desire at all. And that I find exponentially more inexcusable — maybe that's the best way of putting it — at least to me. I think that hurts even more so. It's, like, why would you not wanna do that? That's what we lived for; that was what we would have killed for. So I guess that's maybe the biggest question that's unanswered. And that's the kind of thing those guys never wanted to sit down and talk about, even during the good times, even when we were out there doing it. There's an elusive quotient to the whole thing, man, because some people have not been on the level with the whole thing either. But at the end of the day, it's desire. I think that's the one quotient that has yet to really… That's the biggest festering sore. And even above brotherhood and all that, that's the part that prohibits progress." Back in 2021, Scott told Waste Some Time with Jason Green that "there were always two camps within [TRIXTER]. It hasn't always been as bad as it is now. Peter and I were always very close, and P.J. and Steve were always very close. I mean, we were all collectively very, very close. We were a family, and that's not bullcrap; that's for real. We literally grew up together. P.J., at 15 and 16 years old, used to drive my car 'cause I wanted him to pass his driving exam. To that level, man. I've known these guys 35-plus years. So we've been through a lot, and we've experienced things around the world, the likes of which people will never experience. So we've been through very, very highs and very, very lows all together. We each know deep, dark secrets about each other. And it's something beautiful — it really is. And, unfortunately, more recently, it has turned more ugly." Regarding what Brown is "mad" at him for, Scott said: "What it stems from is something, I think, that started a long time ago. And it was unresolved crap that got worse and worse, and then got out of control. It started small in a sense that there were two ideologies within the band on how to run the band. When we had opportunities like we did the second time around… When we first came out [after our comeback], we did three shows in one year; I think the next year we did five. When you have 52 weekends and [you're plotting] a big comeback and the press is favorable and people are throwing record deals at you and you're hitting No. 56 on iTunes, the idea of playing 20 shows in one year, to me, it just seemed like an opportunity to strike that no one else really wanted to share the idea. That's where I think things started, and nobody wanted to talk about it. That's a problem — in any business. "It got to a point where I took some action, and I was somewhat of a dick about it," he admitted. "But my actions were certainly prompted — to take action. And it kind of caught him in the backside a bit, and he got really angry at me.' Scott told Waste Some Time with Jason Green that he was "hesitant to give the full details" of his disagreement with Brown, but claimed that "there was a dictatorial attitude that [Steve] had, and he wasn't exactly sitting on the throne. And I think he took offense to the idea that I took a strike at his position, and it caught him a little short-sighted." Asked if he acknowledges that he may have done something to rub Brown the wrong way, Scott said: "I'll go so far as to say a hundred percent. I pissed him off big-time, but it certainly wasn't without prompting. I didn't just one day wake up and say, 'You know what? Fuck him. And this is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna take an ax and chop up his car.' No. It [had built up] over a long period of time. Everybody avoided the idea of having a conversation about it. I mean, if you're gonna run a bubblegum stand, you've gotta all agree upon how much bubblegum you're gonna sell, what you're gonna sell it for, and how often you're gonna sell it. And to have four guys that own one bubblegum stand and can't agree on the price of bubblegum and how often they're gonna sell it, they're pretty substantial problems." Scott celebrated the 30th anniversary of TRIXTER's biggest MTV hit, "Give It To Me Good", by releasing a solo version of the song in May 2020.

Battlestations is still my favourite song by them and they still have not added it as a bonus track at any point. Should have stuck it on the remaster of In the heart of the young. To be honest, not sure they have released many non-album tracks on singles or soundtracks. Yeah there is Battlestations from Bill & Teds Bogus Journey, and Never which was a b-side (that appeared on the demos album), Higher and higher was put on the CD release of the debut and Hell to pay was put on the Very best of. Sadly most of their singles had standard album tracks or remixes, and the Japanese albums had zero bonus tracks.

New singer and new bassist.

New video debuts tonight. They have mentioned there is a new line up but not mentioned who. Might be similar to when they changed vocalists after the first album and re-recorded Bombshell.

Sadly the bonus disc of demos is just an extremely cut down version of the Demos album released back in 2007

https://metalsludge.tv/a-new-box-set-alert-wingers-1988-1993-albums-chapter-one-atlantic-years-compiled-in-a-new-box-set-bonus-disc-of-demos-included/ A NEW BOX SET ALERT … WINGER’s 1988-1993 Albums ‘Chapter One – Atlantic Years’ Compiled in a New Box Set, Bonus Disc of Demos Included Metal Sludge — News from the WINGER camp and for all you Box Set collectors, it’s great news for you! Atlantic Records is issuing a new Box Set that includes the WINGER releases from 1988-1993, and in addition, they are adding a Bonus Disc of related Demos. Atlantic recently did something similar with Ratt which proved to be a great package that fans loved. Now it appears, it’s time for the WINGER Box Set release. Share and support… see details below. ————————————— FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: WINGER’s 1988-1993 ALBUMS COMPILED IN NEW BOX SET, ALONG WITH A BONUS DISC OF DEMOS One of the most-aired hard rock bands on MTV during the late ’80s and early ’90s was Winger, a band who had it all – expert chops, chart success, arena tours, etc. And now for the first time ever, the band’s best-selling albums will be compiled together in the new box set, Chapter One: Atlantic Years 1988-1993 – which will be released on November 17, 2023 via Atlantic/BMG, and will be available as both vinyl and CD versions. Included will be the band’s self-titled debut from 1988 (which spawned the hits “Madalaine,” “Seventeen,” and “Headed or a Heartbreak”), In the Heart of the Young from 1990 (which gave us “I Can’t Get Enuff,” “Miles Away,” and “Easy Come Easy Go”), and Pull from 1993 (which contained “Down Incognito”). And long-time fans of the band – whose classic line-up was comprised of singer/bassist Kip Winger, guitarists Reb Beach and Paul Taylor, and drummer Rod Morgenstein – will probably be most intrigued by the inclusion of the fourth disc, Demo Anthology, which includes original demo versions of Winger’s biggest hits. Additionally, the set will be newly remastered by Ted Jensen – with the remaster process overseen by Kip Winger. “I’m very proud of this box set. It captures an unforgettable era for the band and these are the only remasters I officially endorse.” – Kip Winger Still rocking to this day – the band issued their seventh studio effort overall in 2023, the appropriately titled Seven. Kip Winger is also a respected and successful symphonic composer, having issued recordings under the name C.F. Kip Winger, while Reb Beach has been a member of Whitesnake since 2002, and Rod Morgenstein has served as a professor at Berklee College of Music (in addition to playing in a variety of other more jazz-fusion-based projects). To obtain all of Winger’s definitive LP’s in one fell swoop, Chapter One: Atlantic Years 1988-1993 covers all the bases – and then some! PRE-ORDER HERE: https://winger.lnk.to/atlantic FOR MORE INFORMATION, VISIT: wingertheband.com TRACKLIST: Winger (1988) • US – PLATINUM / CANADA – GOLD / JAPAN – GOLD • #21 US Billboard Top 200 Albums Chart / #96 Canadian Albums Chart • “Madelaine” (#27 US Rock) / “Seventeen” (#19 US Hot 100 / #19 US Rock)/ “Headed For A Heartbreak” (#19 US Hot 100 / #8 US Rock) / “Hungry” (#85 US Hot 100 / #34 US Rock) Tracklist: 1. Madalaine 2. Hungry 3. Seventeen 4. Without The Night 5. Purple Haze 6. State Of Emergency 7. Time To Surrender 8. Poison Angel 9. Hangin’ On 10. Headed For A Heartbreak Personnel: Kip Winger – Bass/Vocals Reb Beach – Guitar/Vocals Paul Taylor – Keyboards/Vocals Rod Morgenstein – Drums Producer: Beau Hill Winger II: In The Heart Of The Young (1990) • US – PLATINUM • #15 US Billboard Top 200 Albums Chart • “Can’t Get Enuff” (#42 US Hot 100 / #6 US Rock) / “Miles Away” (#12 US Hot 100 / #14 US Rock / #56 UK Singles Chart) / ”Easy Come Easy Go” (#41 US Hot 100 / #20 US Rock) Tracklist: 1. Can’t Get Enuff 2. Loosen Up 3. Miles Away 4. Easy Come Easy Go 5. Rainbow In The Rose 6. In The Day We’ll Never See 7. Under One Condition 8. Little Dirty Blonde 9. Baptized By Fire 10. You Are The Saint, I Am The Sinner 11. In The Heart Of The Young Personnel: Kip Winger – Bass/Vocals Reb Beach – Guitar/Vocals Paul Taylor – Keyboards/Guitar/Vocals Rod Morgenstein – Drums Producer: Beau Hill Pull (1993) • #83 US Billboard Top 200 Albums Chart • “Down Incognito” (#15 US Rock) Tracklist: 1. Blind Revolution Mad 2. Down Incognito 3. Spell I’m Under 4. In My Veins 5. Junkyard Dog (Tears On Stone) 6. The Lucky One 7. In For The Kill 8. No Man’s Land 9. Like A Ritual 10. Who’s The One Personnel: Kip Winger – Bass/Vocals/Keyboards Reb Beach – Guitar/Vocals Rod Morgenstein – Drums Producer: Mike Shipley, Kip Winger Demo Anthology (2023) Tracklist: 1. Madalaine 2. Hungry 3. Seventeen 4. Headed for a Heartbreak 5. Can’t Get Enuff 6. Easy Come Easy Go 7. Miles Away 8. Blind Revolution Mad 9. Down Incognito 10. Who’s the One WINGER ON TOUR: Oct 7th – Rock The Locks Music Festival – Unatilla, OR Oct 13th – Rocktober 2023 At The Old Gray – Monterey, TN Oct 14th – District 142 – Wyandotte, MI Nov 11th – Newton Performing Artist Center – Newton, NC Nov 18th – Buffalo Rose – Golden, CO Dec 16th – Smart Financial Centre – Sugar Land, TX Dec 17th – The Factory In Deep Ellum – Dallas, TX Jan 17th – Rockisland Fest 2024 – Key West Amphitheater – Key West, FL

I obviously cant speak for the rest of the world, but their last album was easy to get hold of. I bought it about two years after it came out direct from Amazon UK. Probably out of print now as no longer on Amazon and prices on Discogs are steep.

I used to be a massive Maiden fan and used to pick up all of Bruces solo output, but after he returned to the band over 20 years ago I have had little or not interest in them as their output has been pretty bland and repetitive. As for Bruces solo stuff, it was very hit or miss. Tattooed Millionaire was a cool commercial rock album, Balls was a bit more out there but had a few songs on it liked, Freak was awesome but everything else was "meh". I will probably do the same with this as I do with Maiden these days, wait til the price drops before picking it up.

Must admit that never been interested in this band, but have seen them live a couple of times (supporting Halestorm I think) and Brink certainly knows how to put on a show.

Just recommended this on YouTube. Not necessarily something that I am interested in, but don't see any topics discussing their upcoming album "Life" available in November, and I think it will appeal to some (despite the horrible dad dancing from the singer at the start)

Another band he was part of is KilliT, which is more melodic than the glam/sleaze of King Lizard. From what I have seen he did a Kickstarter for the new album, but says its his debut. We never learn was only released digitally, so maybe he considers that more of a demos thing or something. Plus this new album is the first time he has taken on vocals, so that may also be why he considers it his debut.