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  1. "Michael Butt from Utah and I agreed on a CD trade in March. I've sent him 5 CDs to the US and he agreed to send 3 rare and very expensive CDs to me in Hungary. I've requested that he send my package via Express Mail with tracking - but instead he used regular First Class Mail. Mike received my CDs after 5 days but I haven't received his package to this day. Tracking shows that it was delivered on the 12th of March somewhere in Germany. Tracking also says "from US to Germany" - there's nothing indicating Hungary. Mike showed me two different customs/tracking numbers which is impossible cause there's only one package - not 2. One was for Express Mail which says "Label created, not yet in system" so it was never used and the other one is a regular First Class International customs number (the parcel that was delivered in Germany in mid-March). Mike refuses to give my CDs back and claims it's the post office's fault. Noone knows where the supposed package currently is - post is investigating but can't locate it. If he'd actually mailed it with EMS like I requested we wouldn't have this problem now. My suspicion is: he gave me a tracking number from a different CD he mailed to Germany on that day and never actually mailed my package. The pictures of the receipts could be manipulated with the tracking number cut and glued onto a random customs form with my name and address on it. Of course I don't have proof for this, but it's the only possible solution at this point. Mike now completely refuses any help since I've talked to another collector who tried to help me solve this issue with him. I'd like to WARN every serious collector to not trade with Mike Butt under any circumstances, because as far as I know this is not the first time that a problem like this occured with one of his trades going bad."
  2. You see the situation very well. It can be said that mail was a mistake, but this is not the case. It was a deliberately organized scam. It was a man I trusted because I had a deal with him and there was no problem until now. Returning to Delbert's story, there may be things that accidentally send the package to another country, but in your case there was not delivered but was forwarded to the destination country. Mike Butt had done this to some people that he did not send the package where he should have been, and it's not a coincidence that MIKE BUTT is the sender every time. My package was delivered to Germany within 7 days,instead Hungary, indicating that the packet was not lost but was consciously addressed and the customs declaration was not real what he showed me. This is thoughtful for everyone because it knows how many people have already played this, but I just got later the news and told me their own story.
  3. This was a trading agreement that we both agreed to use the EMS service. I kept myself in agreement and sent him the 5 cds with EMS service and he got it in 5 days! But he only showed me a prepared EMS cover letter with tracking number, but he never used it, and I did not get the 3 cds in which we agreed. I have attached a pictured about our conversation. Money moves were not through Paypal, but we are talking about the theoretical value of 5 cd's! Here is the evidence: Mike's wrote me this EMS tracking number firstly: EL511601279US https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?tLabels=EL511601279US Label Created, not yet in system
  4. It was later revealed that on 5th of March you did something in the post office that could call packet ,and delivered on March 12 in Germany. This is a short time of 7 days, and here the post office is not a mistake, but a packet is forwarded to it where the sender addresses it. It was a consciously pre-planned fraud!! Here, I'm not the psycho, but every normal person would react if, during a deal, Mike gets more than $ 1,500 total worth of CDs (5 cds), and he scammed me with a consciously pre-planned,and not sending anything in return . The case of Bruno Pignatario (Italian person) has come to light, but unfortunately only afterwards! His story is similar. He traded with Mike Butt last year and he paid him $ 700 for 2 cd's, and Mike sent him package to Italy, but in an unknown place, not where he had Bruno's address. Mike never refunded money to Bruno! These things are not accidental!!!
  5. Whether he bought them online or post office, I do not know. All I can say about this is that I received a photo of him on the day before (4th of March -Sunday) the post was sent, there was a large leaf cover, and a letter of EMS accompanying him, and a customs declaration, both of which were filled. The EMS letter was never used, but the customs declaration was accompanied by this tracking number: LH033954699US (this is ''FIRST CLASS MAIL'' service),and it was delivered 12th of March in Germany,instead Hungary! The thing to do is to find out afterwards that Mike has done the same thing with more people, and it's so strange that the packets are delivered to other cities and unknown places in other countries, and every time MIKE BUTT sends the packets.
  6. If you are using an English-German translation program, this means in English that the package was delivered on March 12, 2018 in Germany! Will there be enough evidence?
  7. GERMAN post office confirmed by phone and email that my package (LH033954699US-tracking number) was delivered to Germany on 12TH of March,instead Hungary! Mike Butt never replied to why he did not used the EMS service,as promised me,simply scammed me! The other two people told me after they got to know my story that Mike Butt did the same with them!! He sent to a other city their packages. Mike told me a other tracking number: LH033954699US (first class mail service) ,and not EMS,which is we agreed! Here are the evidence: https://t.17track.net/en#nums=LH033954699US
  8. Outside of me, who I know, Mike Butt did the same thing with two people during 1 years! Here are the evidence: Attached a image from Mike message ,what he sent me message,before shipped me package,which is never arrived me! I asked him EMS service,and he sent package with first class mail service! it appears in the picture that he told me a tracking number of EMS!He never used EMS cover letter!! Label Created, not yet in system EL511601279US https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?tLabels=EL511601279US
  9. In recent years, he has been cheated more people (from Italian person and Switzerland person) because he showed false tracking numbers and actually sent packets to an unknown address.
  10. Today I received a FIRE DEPT-Things Are Tought All Over CD-r from Josh Dowdle (metal_4_ever), and I experienced that sent me a CD-R for $ 750! He promised me a original silver pressed FIRE DEPT. cd,and shipped me a CD-r for $750!! In retrospect, it turned out that he had a lot of people fooled! Cheated from me out of money of revenge, and Josh do not want to refund! No one should trade on him, he is a cheater !! [EDIT: I have changed the title of the thread so as to be less inflammatory, and it also has ramifications to people beyond the two parties currently involved. -Dan]
  11. Just to answer the question, I did not get my money back ever since. Josh is booked himself that he does this money back never, and rather his lives far from the heavyharmonies forum,and rather on the Discogs page as ''metalhaven'' seller! A year later, it will not happen to have nothing on the case,unfortunately!
  12. I have it a extra copy of GREAT KING RAT-st cd! Still you want it from me?Write me a message to this email: sopetya@t-online.hu

  13. http://www.ebay.com/itm/151645542310?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT $315 ??? It's amazing that so deceive people, and who's not reading the descriptions, it is written in that it is not official, and they are able to pay more than $ 300 for a bootleg CD, when the original official edition is moving around $ 200. Who what think of these?
  14. Hello Paul! I looked back at the posts in this section:"WHAT CDs DID YOU BUY THIS WEEK" 364 page, your posts: Posted 09 October 2008 - 09:54 AM Crystal Ball.............In The Beginning Crystal Ball.............Hard Impact Crystal Ball.............Secrets Anvil Choir..............S/T Trip Trigger.............S/T The Affair................First Bite Double Heart...........Hearts On Fire Desert Voice............Holy Fire Axiom.....................Nasty Rumors I know it's been a...

    1. cherokee

      cherokee

      Still you have ANVIL CHOIR 1992 CD?Let me know! PETER

    2. Dead Planet

      Dead Planet

      Ahh now I remember...that was a while ago and the cd was pretty bad from what I remember and it was either a Retrospect release or a Time Warp records boot....cd-r...not worth a damn IMO...

  15. Hello! I'm looking for a "anvil choir-s/t" 1992 cd! I saw that you bought at such a CD!

    1. cherokee

      cherokee

      Still you have this cd?? Please send me a message to this email address:sopetya@t-online.hu Thank you in advance! Regards,Peter

    2. Dead Planet

      Dead Planet

      Sorry...not sure where you saw that...I don't remember buying an Anvil Choir cd...

       

      Paul

  16. Hello Jeff! Yes, I am willing to solve this issue, but unfortunately Josh longer want this! With him is still $ 450,from which I would like to get back at least $ 300,and then away from each other to live his own life more. He made a partial refunded me back $ 300 so far,but this is not enough, because I got from him a fake cd-r, which of the value of $1!! That would be my suggestion!
  17. No, the greatest blame for Josh, because he traded a CD-R (homemade fake cd), but I factory original CDs sent to him, and it's a big difference! In his words is a big fucking lie, that shit was fucking some cd's of condition! Just to explain in things, he was notified of in advance that these USED cd's, but factory original cds,not a cd-r! One of the details that have some inside of front inset cd written with the pen, but the quality and condition of the paper is perfect, not even from this not condition of "poor". The second objection, if a deposit is fully correct, but at some point there is a slight tab mark, why not let it be "excellent" condition,not "mint" ,but "excellent" ? Which wrong I feel myself, and I admit that I had a back cover of one of cd, which I have not personally noticed that one of the cd came to me already that from whom I bought the one tape confirmed the spine of back cover, probably because the paper due to the weakness of otherwise would have torn.this was written in "very good" condition and will not "excellent" or not "mint"! Yes 9 CDs was, complaint with 3 cd's,we has negotiated the matter, he agreed to I give him $ 100 on following trading (he $350 demanded from me,and I felt very so many), which will be among us.That's the point, and is not that three weeks later, he premeditated wait to get paid him $750 ($650+$100 compensation) for a original Fire Dept. cd (I was at least in my mind) and then without any warning he sent me a CD-R, whose value is approximately $ 1! and this Josh not believe with me that the you bought from Fire Dept. band because it can not be manufactured in the band never, even the paper is disgraceful, undulating circuit is cut off.His conditions of judgment grades is different with my conditions of judgment grades , and this came out of his personal revenge!
  18. And to state the obvious, if some idiot with more dollars than sense wants to spent $75.00, $150.00 or $500.00 on a cdr and that idiot KNOWS its a cdr than more power to them. The same can't be said if the person doesn't know. As GI Joe would say: "Knowing is half the battle". Anything less is just dishonest. An eye for an eye my friend. You fuck me over, expect the same treatment. One thing I do not understand the whole, when I repeatedly asked Josh from that he will be satisfied with the $ 100 in restitution, he said, that's fine,because he do not want anger between us, and he agreed that the next transaction of extra $ 100 will be paid to him, why can not he told me at this time that there is an available Fire Dept. cd, but it will be $350 more expensive than what I offered him $650? This would have been the solution and not the fact that he will wait for I paid to him $750, and pre-planned way to send me the home made fake cd-r,what is value of one dollar! Yes, I would knew it is still included inside the spike, it is possible that I would have said to him, listen Josh, you get 350 dollars more money for it (original Fire Dept. cd), but then this should have been communicated with me before, and then I got at least one original silver pressed cd, I would not this shit!!!!! What are you talking about "eye for an eye" ?? You want the world to believe that the band produced a CD-R version ?? There is not even value of one dollar is not, my little friend, well fuck off me and the whole world knows this already !! Yes, you are right Terry Martinson in everything, I did not knew that Josh not sending the original to me, and this scam is called.It might be that you got 3 cd's weaker condition, but it is factory original CD, and not a cd-r !! Have you had the opportunity in your hand,because already you got $750, and all you should have told me, even asking from me $ 250 yet, and only then send the original Fire Dept.CD, otherwise I just get a CD-R version, but this is not it was your energy, but that yes that well Fuck off with me!!!
  19. One thing I do not understand the whole, when I repeatedly asked Josh from that he will be satisfied with the $ 100 in restitution, he said, that's fine,because he do not want anger between us, and he agreed that the next transaction of extra $ 100 will be paid to him, why can not he told me at this time that there is an available Fire Dept. cd, but it will be $350 more expensive than what I offered him $650? This would have been the solution and not the fact that he will wait for I paid to him $750, and pre-planned way to send me the homemage fake cd-r,what is value of one dollar! Yes, I would knew it is still included inside the spike, it is possible that I would have said to him, listen Josh, you get 350 dollars more money for it (original Fire Dept. cd), but then this should have been communicated with me before, and then I got at least one original silver pressed cd, I would not this shit! I have closed this topic because we could never agree on this matter!
  20. I do not agree with the words of Josh because of his problems, which he refers to is not equal to the ratio of the earlier claim of $ 350! $ 150 would be more willing to accept, but I do not accept that he sent me a $ 1 is worth less homemade CD-r for $ 750 and another $ 450 to keep with you!
  21. I have bought a lot CD's from Josh, but I never thought from him that he is trading with homemade CD-r version, especially not for $ 750! Once the person doing such a thing first time,will do next time,because have in his blood. The saddest part is that the another board has written a country before the world that he did not regret what he did.
  22. It's a weird the dealer:"melodicmetalhead"! Seller asked 21 dollars in postage for 1 cd, and when I asked him that it would be much cheaper if USPS FIRST CLASS MAIL service to send the CD, then the date of purchase within' 48 hours have already set up a Dispute is that the "unpaid item", and thus I had to pay double the amount of postage. Internation FIRST CLASS MAIL cost usually/ 1 cd: Is around $10
  23. I never wanted to hurt Josh, or scammed him! what I told to him It was a sudden reaction, and because I saw that he did not want to give back 750 dollars, and he just said to me that it will be a good lesson for me that next time I describe more precisely the conditions. $ 750, loss ratio was not equal proportions his problem, because what I sent to him cd's original factory silver pressed cd's, but I told him in advance that these are used condition CDs, not in mint condition! what he did not know,just when he got the CDs that had problems with the condition of 3 cd's, and was satisfied with 6 cd's! I admitted to my mistake, really could have been more detailed description in the errors, but because I felt this to be mistake,I offered him $ 100 and he will forget the things! He accepted this, and that's the point! eBay Shop which are condition description is a general approach, since due to the large quantity of this capacity would not be, but if someone is interested in more detail in the conditions, I was always helpful, and I used to help everyone. everyone else how to evaluate the condition of a product,what is USED!!, but since not entirely real what it was written,because we are people,everyone makes mistakes,but in the not entitle anyone to premeditated one of the next trading scammed from person $ 750 for a homemade cd-r! When I offered him $ 100 and he accepted, I admitted to my mistake, this is the seemed to me that we closed thing. I do not intentionally hurt him, but inattention was from me, but he scammed me with premeditation. This transaction was a few weeks later, when the agreement was to send him $ 650 for FIRE DEPT. cd (original and not homemade cd-r) and $ 100 in compensation, and he was satisfied. So I suffered losses, because value of the cd-r is $ 1 or less! Yes,I got $300 partial refund,but this not enough!! So my suggestion! Keep your $ 150 Josh, this also is too much, but let it be, I also made a mistake, and I ask $300 refund yet , and then let us have peace on! I think that this would be fair. How to decided,Josh??
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