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If you want to "out" problem Ebay sellers or buyers here for the good of the community, it doesn't have to be limited to CD purchases, let alone genres appropriate to HH.
Any information, both good and bad, about Ebay, that helps protect other folks here, is a good thing.
-Dan
You mean to tell me eBay sells things other than music?
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from melodicrock.com:
DEF LEPPARD EXCLUSIVE FOR WALMART SHOPPERS:
Def Leppard have signed a deal with US mass retailer Wal Mart to offer an exclusive EP release to accompany the Yeah! album. Both releases are due out May 23 and are sold separately. The Yeah! album remains comprised of the 14 tracks previously stated, but the exclusive EP - also titled Yeah! - features the following tracks:
1. American Girl 2. Backstage Interview #1 3. Search & Destroy 4. Backstage Interview #2 5. Space Oddity 6. Backstage Interview #3 7. Dear Friends 8. Heartbeat.
These extra tracks are the ones the band spoke of after the original set of 14 songs were revealed right here. The original recording artists are:
American Girl (Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers), Heartbeat (Jobriath), So Dear Friends (Queen), Search & Destroy (Iggy & The Stooges), Space Oddity (David Bowie).
WebLink to the EP: www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4965390.
does anyone know if Walmart do international orders? whats the pricing like?
By posting this here, are you saying Walmart is a good or bad trader/seller?
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...I don't like to get in trouble, so I have jlprocks do it for me...
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I miss this thread.
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Don't buy a copy of any Dalton cd:s that you think are fake. Those cd:s are not rare att all anymore since there record company from Sweden found a great amount of cd:s stashed away a year ago or so. In Sweden you can by those Dalton cd:s new for 7-8 bucks. Two sores have tem. I know at least one that are selling to customers outside Sweden. At least to customers in Europe. The Store is www.cdon.com.
The also have Tone Norum: One of a kind for 8.95 Euros:
Take acre
Ali
Would be nice if they shipped to the U.S.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion.......It is unfortunate situation, and i have tried to make things clear.........Let me lay it out like this.........Everyone is harping on the 2 copies i have..........Which that is cool.......But am i going to open a brand new copy i paid over $50 for just to give him the Obi.........NO, and none of you would either, you would take the route in which i have, find an obi by itself, which is what i have been trying to do........
But now take my point of view for an instance, someone comes to you and says "i want an obi or i am going to make a post about you"......that is so grade school, do this or i am going to tell on you.........If i had not made any attempt at all to correct the incident i would say fine, but i have have went above and beyond trying to find a simple obi strip...........People can say i am coming off as a jerk or whatever they want......It goes back to "it's not what you say, but how you say it".......Jarred brought all this to this public board, and granted he did not mention me by name, that is not the point, I am a stand up guy and i am going to defend myself...........I never said i was right or wrong, just giving my side.....and as far as a giving a cd, they way it came off to me and especially after it has been brought to light here, it was more like extortion......
I will admit i was out of line with the "cdr" comment and for that i will apologize for...........As we speak i just received and email about an obi which will be mailed to Jarred tomorrow from Japan......This is the end of this..............
Later
Lon
I don't expect anything from you Lonnie. There was nothing grade school about what I did. I never intended to use your name. I just wanted opinions about a situation hoping you would read them and do the right thing. YOU choose to bring your name into this. I want nothing from you. Lets just move on.
JL
Not to mention you all the sudden get an e-mail for an obi. You just now happen to find one after five months? Please..............
JL
No offense JL, but I can definitely see Lonnie's point about grade school actions, because I think your last comment was grade-school-ish. You've admitted, and many of us know, that Lonnie is a stand-up guy and been a great seller/trader. So, now he finds your coveted OBI, and you're going to mock him for it? There's a reason why CDs with the OBI strip cost more, and that's because they're harder to find. So, be a man, and give Lonnie the benefit of the doubt, take your OBI strip and move on.
This all just sounds like a misunderstanding, and I feel it was totally unappropriate to even bring the subject up here.
Thanks, I'll sleep better tonight knowing that.........
JL
If you don't want people's opinions, then don't post your questions.
I don't have a problem with you posting your opinion, but don't post your opinion if you don't want to see my reaction.
JL
Well.....don't post your reaction to my opinion of your reaction to my opinion.......ummmmmmmm..........oh, never mind!
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion.......It is unfortunate situation, and i have tried to make things clear.........Let me lay it out like this.........Everyone is harping on the 2 copies i have..........Which that is cool.......But am i going to open a brand new copy i paid over $50 for just to give him the Obi.........NO, and none of you would either, you would take the route in which i have, find an obi by itself, which is what i have been trying to do........
But now take my point of view for an instance, someone comes to you and says "i want an obi or i am going to make a post about you"......that is so grade school, do this or i am going to tell on you.........If i had not made any attempt at all to correct the incident i would say fine, but i have have went above and beyond trying to find a simple obi strip...........People can say i am coming off as a jerk or whatever they want......It goes back to "it's not what you say, but how you say it".......Jarred brought all this to this public board, and granted he did not mention me by name, that is not the point, I am a stand up guy and i am going to defend myself...........I never said i was right or wrong, just giving my side.....and as far as a giving a cd, they way it came off to me and especially after it has been brought to light here, it was more like extortion......
I will admit i was out of line with the "cdr" comment and for that i will apologize for...........As we speak i just received and email about an obi which will be mailed to Jarred tomorrow from Japan......This is the end of this..............
Later
Lon
I don't expect anything from you Lonnie. There was nothing grade school about what I did. I never intended to use your name. I just wanted opinions about a situation hoping you would read them and do the right thing. YOU choose to bring your name into this. I want nothing from you. Lets just move on.
JL
Not to mention you all the sudden get an e-mail for an obi. You just now happen to find one after five months? Please..............
JL
No offense JL, but I can definitely see Lonnie's point about grade school actions, because I think your last comment was grade-school-ish. You've admitted, and many of us know, that Lonnie is a stand-up guy and been a great seller/trader. So, now he finds your coveted OBI, and you're going to mock him for it? There's a reason why CDs with the OBI strip cost more, and that's because they're harder to find. So, be a man, and give Lonnie the benefit of the doubt, take your OBI strip and move on.
This all just sounds like a misunderstanding, and I feel it was totally unappropriate to even bring the subject up here.
Thanks, I'll sleep better tonight knowing that.........
JL
If you don't want people's opinions, then don't post your questions.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion.......It is unfortunate situation, and i have tried to make things clear.........Let me lay it out like this.........Everyone is harping on the 2 copies i have..........Which that is cool.......But am i going to open a brand new copy i paid over $50 for just to give him the Obi.........NO, and none of you would either, you would take the route in which i have, find an obi by itself, which is what i have been trying to do........
But now take my point of view for an instance, someone comes to you and says "i want an obi or i am going to make a post about you"......that is so grade school, do this or i am going to tell on you.........If i had not made any attempt at all to correct the incident i would say fine, but i have have went above and beyond trying to find a simple obi strip...........People can say i am coming off as a jerk or whatever they want......It goes back to "it's not what you say, but how you say it".......Jarred brought all this to this public board, and granted he did not mention me by name, that is not the point, I am a stand up guy and i am going to defend myself...........I never said i was right or wrong, just giving my side.....and as far as a giving a cd, they way it came off to me and especially after it has been brought to light here, it was more like extortion......
I will admit i was out of line with the "cdr" comment and for that i will apologize for...........As we speak i just received and email about an obi which will be mailed to Jarred tomorrow from Japan......This is the end of this..............
Later
Lon
I don't expect anything from you Lonnie. There was nothing grade school about what I did. I never intended to use your name. I just wanted opinions about a situation hoping you would read them and do the right thing. YOU choose to bring your name into this. I want nothing from you. Lets just move on.
JL
Not to mention you all the sudden get an e-mail for an obi. You just now happen to find one after five months? Please..............
JL
No offense JL, but I can definitely see Lonnie's point about grade school actions, because I think your last comment was grade-school-ish. You've admitted, and many of us know, that Lonnie is a stand-up guy and been a great seller/trader. So, now he finds your coveted OBI, and you're going to mock him for it? There's a reason why CDs with the OBI strip cost more, and that's because they're harder to find. So, be a man, and give Lonnie the benefit of the doubt, take your OBI strip and move on.
This all just sounds like a misunderstanding, and I feel it was totally unappropriate to even bring the subject up here.
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Actually I told him that I wasn't interested in selling to him, and had already sold to the 2nd highest bidder.
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Well, here's the email response I received almost 2 weeks after my auctions ended. Look familiar?
hello....apologies for taking so long to get with you in regards to the cd(s) I won...I was away on vacation and just returned this morning.
Due to some things coming up in my life while away,I will need some additional time with which to pay for the cd's........I will be able to make a paypal payment for the cd(s) on either 9/9 or possibly 9/16....please verify whether or not you are in aggreement with these dates.
Regards
What an
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Well, this dipshit has bid and won my Pokerface - Game Of Love CD, and I'm not about to sell the disc to him. Can anybody let me know what my options are? I know I can offer the CD to the 2nd highest bidder, which I'd like to do, but do I risk him giving me a negative? Basically, how do I get rid of his high with the least effect?
The auction ended yesterday, and he hasn't contacted me yet. I expect some excuse for payment coming soon.
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Doesn't anybody read the auctions before bidding? I see a Buy-It-Now price of $500 coming for this re-release soon!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
I'll make you a cdr for $100....!!!
Thanks bud, sounds like a helluva deal!!!
I just don't understand some people. Stupid people like that feed Sam's problem of not generally releasing the CDs. Just ridiculous.
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Doesn't anybody read the auctions before bidding? I see a Buy-It-Now price of $500 coming for this re-release soon!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
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Break LIKE THE WIND - Spinal Tap
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Went with In Rock We Trust simply because my fav Y & T song is on there - Keep On Runnin'.
But frankly, I love all those albums.
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With all the heated discussion over the Friction - Baby Talk boot...er, I mean "reissue" in this forum, I thought maybe switching gears & talking about a legit album on the horizon would be a good change of pace. Sorry if it doesn't belong here, but at the time I thought this is where it needed to be posted.
Well, that's just kinda silly. If you wanted the Friction discussion to go 'behind the scenes' here, you still could have posted something on-topic.
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I didn't mean to be bagging off Americans but it is universally known that most Americans don't know to much about anything non-American.
Dave
Dude, you SERIOUSLY have foot-in-mouth disease. I think it's time to keep your mouth shut.
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MelodicRockOz is not me!! Leave me out of this. I hope both labels do extremely well if they are above board. All I have said on the issue is the way you (Sam) have conducted business in the past was not right, you have told me this via email. I still have the email if you would like me to send it to you.
Just because MelodicRockOz is from Australia doesn't mean that we are the same. Australia is as big as America but I wouldn't expect you to know that considering you are an American.
Good luck with Retrospect Records.
P.S. One thing I can confirm is that we will certainly miss Joe, he was a real top bloke!!!
Dave
Suncity Records
Cool it Dave! Saying stuff like that will have you burning bridges to your label before they're even built.
Yeah, no shit. Talk about stereotyping. I guess I'm just a stupid American too then.
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One thing must be clear here. I'm not out to play games.
Not even, like Parcheesi or Backgammon, or tiddly-winks?
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I was going to stay out of this one, but this is my take. It's not meant to attack anyone here in any way
Personally, I think if he does have a certain amout of them pressed, instead of selling them one at a time to keep the prices up there, then maybe he should consider offering them in a dutch auction for 25-50 items at a crack. I feel that would be less deceitful.
He's going on the law of Supply And Demand right now. He's the only one with them adn he knows it, so releasing them one at a time, he can let the people battle over them until the end of the auction causing a bidding war and sky high prices. When it's all over, he throws out another bone and they come running. Having a dutch auction seems to be a more honest way of selling them in my opinion.
On top of that, I've seen many many reissues come out in the last 5 years of rare cd's, and when a regular label releases them, they usually run them around $15 a crack give or take. The same as any other cd out there.
I kind of like the idea of a Dutch auction....at least at first, to determine within a larger magnitude where the pricing should fall.
Sorry, but I don't agree with any method of determining 'where the pricing should fall' in this case. I believe that's been done successfully throughout previous DECADES by numerous record labels and artists already. The only thing he could be determining is what HE could possibly get for these discs. While that practice is valid for your average eBay seller, it is not valid OR practical for a 'record label' to operate that way. As stated numerous times previously, that practice benefits neither the band or the consumer. The only person it would benefit is Sam. IF Sam really wants to get this music into the hands of the masses as he has stated in the past, set his price @ $12-$15 a CD (which I'm sure is quite a nice profit for Sam even at that price) as other record labels do, and make your profit in volume, not a per-cd basis.
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I think it's awesome that these discs are being released, BUT like I mentioned earlier, since they're official new releases, I want them to be sold at reasonable prices and not strictly by auctions on eBay. I feel that's unfair to both the consumer AND the bands. If and when they're available for general purchase, I'll be buying them all. Until then, people can bid $50+ on the Friction CD on eBay, but it won't be me.
Agree 100%. Until these are available somewhere for outright purchase at an advertised flat rate price, it's the same old shit. It's not doing anyone any good except lining Sam's pockets at the expense of the fans.
If I start seeing them at NEH Records, or AOR Heaven, or Schmankerl, or Perris, or on Ebay with $14.99 BINs, then I'll retract the above.
Until then it smells like a rat.
-Dan
"At the expense of the fans".....where are you when the many eBay sellers who have 50 or 100 copies of a certain bands cd and they only list 1 a month in their auctions.....or do their clandestine trades for high dollar cds when they, in fact, have a ton of copies?? I could name off many eBay sellers who do that...and I bet you could too.
Where are the people at when bands are selling their cds directly for big bucks when they have a ton of copies?? I didn't hear anyone bitching at Mark David from Concrete Jungle when he sold his own cds for $120 a piece. Or his CDR EP for $40. I don't hear anyone bitch when the guy from Mistress sells his cds on eBay for big bucks....or Sweet Teaze or the guy from Deja Vu who sold his for $100 a pop. I don't hear you smelling rats in those instances....
I guess the only way most of you will think anything is legit is if the band's contract is posted for all of you to see so that all of the selective 'sheriff's' will make sure they're getting their due, eh?? One of the very moderators of this message board has been in contact from one of the guys in Alyze and knows that Retrospect is legit and so are the Alyze releases....but I guess that is just not enough for some.
While I agree that a common price should be the 'way to go', I find it interesting that if the auctioned cds only go for $9 that that would upset you. And after checking on his auctions, that just may be the case.
I mean....Delbert, PJ and many other sellers often use the phrase, 'let the market determine what the value of a cd is".....and I don't hear any complaining.
And, let me reiterate...that, I too, would like to see a common fixed price for his releases. And I'll venture a guess that once everything is up and running that you will.....but...if not, then whoever doesn't like what he's doing will do without. And if his business suffers...then it will have been of his own valition.
Jim,
I'm not saying that I expect Retrospect to not be legit. Hell, I really hope it is. All I'm saying is that, if these discs are being released by the bands, wouldn't you think the band would want them to be available to EVERYBODY to purchase at ANYTIME, and not once a month at a higher profit for Sam and NOT the band? The examples you state about bands selling their own stuff on eBay is quite different, as it's remaining out-of-print material of their own. If these are being re-released (or released for the first time), wouldn't you expect there to be as many copies as the label wants to produce to get it into the hands of the consumer, and benefit the BAND? I mean, what if MTM, Escape, etc... all released their stuff only on eBay? How does that benefit the band at all? Okay, they get royalties for 1 copy a month while the seller makes a bundle on each? See what I mean?
Again, I repeat, I HOPE that's not the case as I want to purchase these releases through normal sources. IF it is, then I don't believe Retrospect will be in business long as there's no way bands would continue to want their material released this way.
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I know Sam and I know Joe well.
Joe helped me out getting my Record Label up and running and I can't thank him enough for that!! I just have a few issues with the way Sam does business fo example: He re-issues these great cd's without telling the bands and once the bands find out and approach him he then starts giving them royalties. I would have thought you would approach the bands first?? He also sells his cd's without telling the fans that they are really re-issues.
I like these cd's as much as anyone including you James, but I'm running my business totally above board so I would have thought I could bring this issue to the table.
By the way no it all, Retrospect Records are NOT my competitor. He is doing re-issues and I'm releasing un-released material.
Get a clue James before opening your mouth!!
And how would you know if Sam just plans on doing re-issues...? You just may be surprised what Sam has in store... Just wait and see....
Because LV...these Australian guys are psychic!
The simple fact of the matter is...that Retrospect is going to release new issues...re-issues...and very possibly, new complete albums by bands....
Like I always say.....the 'proof is in the pudding'......and what's that other common saying....oh yeah...'actions speak louder than words'......
Well, no offense to either of you but we have not heard ANYTHING from either company. Sure Sam has a couple up for auction but when will we be able to purchase these cd's at a reasonable price from a website other than Ebay?
Don't get me wrong because I hope both companies succeed because it's all good things for the hard rock comm. But if proof is in the pudding I'm on a diet because I haven't seen or heard or been able to purchase anything from either person.
Time will tell I suppose...
Later
JL
Well....as you well know, they're listed on eBay. So, I would say that's getting started....wouldn't you say? You could start off buy buying the ones you see on eBay. So, I wouldn't say you haven't been able to purchase anything. Hell...the Alyze discs...the last time I looked were only a couple of dollars.
As for the buying them from a website. Well...I'm sure that will happen once the website is finished.
But I agree....once you hear and see those in your hands, you can be as skeptical as you'd like.
I think it's awesome that these discs are being released, BUT like I mentioned earlier, since they're official new releases, I want them to be sold at reasonable prices and not strictly by auctions on eBay. I feel that's unfair to both the consumer AND the bands. If and when they're available for general purchase, I'll be buying them all. Until then, people can bid $50+ on the Friction CD on eBay, but it won't be me.
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Is it possible to buy these CDs directly through Retrospect, or are they only going to be listed by Sam on eBay? I truly hope that's not the case.
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Journey/Steve Augieri - I don't like Journey, but I MUCH prefer the albums I've heard with Steve on vocals.
Ummmmm....isn't that, like, EVERY Journey album?
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