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  5. Russian edition CDs

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    Well I can see both sides of this issue. However most people are going to buy a product where they can get the best quality for the best price which is why China has a HUGE trade imbalance with North America and there are so many manufacturing jobs lost here every year. (Yes big surprise, people are selfish).

     

    I personally feel no guilt is purchasing Russian cds. The whole point of this thread was to find out if anyone has a problem with the quality of these releases not to play music industry politics. I guess the bottom line for people is buy if you want to save some cash or not if it's against your principles....

  6. Russian edition CDs

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    I received pretty much the same releases that I would have got if I had bought them outside if the Russian region.....at a fraction of the cost......not a bad deal.... :whistle:

     

    Except for the artists.

     

    I believe (please correct me if I'm wrong) that the reason CDs are available so cheaply within Russia (or insert republic here) is that the labels are willing to take a lower percentage/royalty, under the understanding that those CDs are sold ONLY within the countries in question, because of the lower standard of living there. The idea (theoretically) is that by lowering the price of the CDs, people in countries with lower standards of living can still be exposed to the music.

     

    When people export them outside the region in question, the labels and artists are getting screwed.

     

    As with anything altruistic in this world, there's always someone waiting to step in and manipulate it for their own gain...

     

    -Dan

     

     

     

    I understand and agree with your point Dan....but if I had not bought these Russian region cds I would have instead waited until I could pick them up on Ebay for approximately the same price and that would not have put any money into the artists pockets at all. At least this way they do get some benefit.

     

    If we truly cared about the labels and artists getting every single dollar possible, no one would own an unofficial cdr , or make MP3s , or trade music , Ebay wouldn't be allowed to sell cds and the labels could set whatever price the market could bear....and yes I know we can all come up with justifications for everything I just listed but they would still be excuses. Lets not forget that the labels have only lately dropped the prices of cds (still not enough IMO) because of competition from the sources previously mentioned....

  7. Russian edition CDs

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    It is legal for sure despite fact that russian firms paid smaller fees (so they can charge only 9.99 for CD), but in other way....a lot of releases for instance of italian Frontiers is in diffrent content than this sold outside Russia.....one has 12 pages booklet, second only 2 pages...in my case it's a roulette...don't buy there newest Nightwish...2 pages of booklet only...like a fookin CD'R :angry:

     

    First of all, Russian companies never suggest retail of $9.99 but a lot less.

     

    Second, Russian market itself is divided in two: the big cities like Moscow and St. Petersbourg where the standard of living is higher, and the rest of the country where everyone is bloody poor. So some Russian labels (CD-Maximum most notably) always print TWO editions of every release: Podarochnoe with fat booklet and sometimes glossy slipcase - intended to retail for $6-7 in the cities, and Uproschennoe with simple one-fold insert which is intended to retail for $4-5 elsewhere in the country.

     

    And as you can bet, all those Russian smugglers which buy the CDs from the labels on wholesale (signing petition NOT to import outside CIS and then breaking it out) always prefer to buy the cheaper release so funky stores like nuclearhell will have those when possible. But then again those CDs are gray market when imported outside their designated region for sale, so you cannot really complain - you get what you pay for :P

     

    If you want better release, dont be a shmuck - go buy the original

     

     

     

    Well the 4 cds that I just picked up from Nuclearhell all had full booklets, (8, 12,12,16 pages). So if I'm hearing you correctly, I received pretty much the same releases that I would have got if I had bought them outside if the Russian region.....at a fraction of the cost......not a bad deal.... :whistle:

  8. Russian edition CDs

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    I'm curious as to what HH opinions are on Russian edition cds.I own several cds made in Russia and I've never had problems with any of them. I've come across an internet cd site that sells Russian made cds only.

     

    http://www.nuclearhell.com/

     

    Their prices are very good and the selection isn't bad either. I picked up 4 cds from them the other day and they seem as good as any other new cd release. I paid under $40 for all 4 and that included registered shipping. They came in sealed cases.

     

    So what do you people think.?

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