Riff Raff

Good album. Feels like 1989. 

DaHun72, on 30 Jan 2017 - 08:02 AM, said:

I'd give that older version of pride a go. Did anyone ever release it on CD? I didn't pay much attention to those re-release a while back thinking they were demos and crap live tracks.

No, you could only get it from Mike back in 2004. It was a 6 cd box set of demos from all of the albums from his personal tapes. Actually 7 cd since the first one was a doube cd. Studs & Danish Lions. Box set was limited to 500 copies worldwide. He was selling them at his concerts and then on his web site. They're long gone.

But, I put em all up on youtube so at least they can still be heard. And as I said. I didn't get any copyright strikes so long as I agreed not to monetize them or embed them. So they'll stay uploaded without any problems unless I take them down. Which I won't. I don't even do youtube like that but I made a channel just to upload these cd. Probably the only things I'll ever upload.

Anyway. Enough of that, I guess. Didn't mean to jack y'all's thread.

Geoff, on 29 Jan 2017 - 04:43 AM, said:

 

Interesting. I never knew that. It almost sounds like the pre-production version or something. But yeah, you're definitely right about it having a bit more, shall we say, bite. Grittier guitars. I'd love to have that full version to spin through.

Well, if I knew I wouldn't have any legal problems uploading it some place and sharing it, I could do that. The whole 7 cd Bootleg Series is uploaded there on that channel, though, and I didn't have any problems with copywrite strikes as long as I agreed to some stuff because Deadline Music got hold of the rights to a few of the songs along the line some place. You'll not find it any place else in that quality, though.

But, yeah, the original recording was done by Peter Hauke at Hotline Studio in Frankfurt, Germany where the Fight To Survive Album was produced. Then they decided to go with Michael Wagener in California instead and we got the second recording. It's different in a lot of ways. Even lyrics and song titles are different in some places.

Also in that playlist is a promo single of When The Children Cry by Hilla Harari and Mike as a duet. Only 50 copies of that single were pressed worldwide and in Israel only. It was given to radio stations there. That's an interesting version of the song. Even though I know a lot of people hate the song on the Pride album, this one is a bit different. But, you know, I kind of have a soft spot for some of those old songs. I experienced that whole scene at just the right age. If people didn't live it, then, there's just no way to explain it. Especialy...oh..I'll say about '84 or '85 through '89.

Funny story about that first Fight to Survive album is that Mkes manager wanted them to go out of the country in order to focus on recording it. So they had two choices. Either go to the Bahamas or go to Frankfurt, Germany. So the rest of the guys were like, yeah, Germany sounds like an exotic place. They didn't know squat nothing about the environment there. So when they're flyin in Vito looks out the window of the plane and says I don't see no palm trees. Where's the fukin palm trees? lol.

Anyway.Yeah. Two very different recordings of Pride exist.

I also like that original recording of After A Broken Heart which later got renamed to simply Broken Heart better than the released versions of the song. Thats THE original recording of Broken Heart there on the Unreleased '83-'85 disc. Vito is absolutely raw in these sessions.

Hm. I'll add the original Pride recording. Cuz, you know, it was recorded twice. The original recording is a little harder. I was stuck in a trafffic jam on I-95 today and popped it into my cd player so that's why it's fresh in my mind, I guess. I played that sumbitch loud, too. The chick next to me in the other car was like dam right, rock that mofo. lol. She probably didnt know it wasn't the second recording that everybody already knows about. Probly shoulda got her number. Cuz I'm Huuuungry...yes I'm Huuuuungry...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY336UH2UVo&list=PL_LQNtTn9SELMAiBDuXJ5Vq1AppiplPEJ&index=3

I'm looking forward to InVader.

Have some old school Reckless Love... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hx8H1NxLZ0&list=PL7700A50C1A96F90E&feature=player_detailpage

AlphaMale, on 10 Nov 2015 - 8:38 PM, said:AlphaMale, on 10 Nov 2015 - 8:38 PM, said:

 

Riff Raff, on 10 Nov 2015 - 04:16 AM, said:Riff Raff, on 10 Nov 2015 - 04:16 AM, said:

 

I didn't like the different album art on the re-release of this oldie but a goodie of an album. So, then, I share my old one from the original release. They don't make 'em like they used to, huh, boys. You're welcome.

 

hmmmm..... look familiar:

 

 

Ha. Good find. That's a former Playmate of the Month named Jami Ferrell. Interesting. I wonder if that had anything to do with them not being able to use the original album art and having to settle for the plastic sadist looking one they dropped on the cover on the re-release.

I didn't like the different album art on the re-release of this oldie but a goodie of an album. So, then, I share my old one from the original release. They don't make 'em like they used to, huh, boys. You're welcome.

I forgot to add the other ones beside those 13. Here they are...

14. When The Lightning Strikes

15. Gateway To Your Heart

16. I'm On Fire

17. In The Shadows

18. Desire

19. Burns Like Fire

Those last three are REALLY good, btw.

Here is the real track list for the demos...

T.A.X. BWS-Records LC 8580 1989

1. Wet Dreams

2. Suzy Suzy

3. Listen

4. Wait For The Light

5. Strangeness Of Tomorrow

6. Starlight

7. Feeling So Good

8. Bounded Time Probably

9. Fly Away

10. Getaway

11. Get Up To The Top

12. Missing You

13. Heaven

I still haven't ever found the On The Run Album. It's annoying, really.

I don't if anyone can answer this for me but I'll ask anyhow.

I've been trying to get my old music converted to MP3 format in case anything ever happens to the originals and just for the luxury of being able to drag them into my phone to have as a convenience for whenever I have some time to kill.

Anyhow...this Studs album: Track 5 is titled "Take Me Home" and track 11 is titled "Bring It On Home". The problem seems, to me at least, that the tracks are titled backwards because the lyrics don't conform to the titles as they are listed. Track 11 "Bring It On Home" has a chorus of take me home while track 5 "Take Me Home" has a chorus of Bring it on Down" I don't know why the song is titled "Bring Itr On Home" if it never even mentions the word home but repeats Bring it on down. You see? It's the most annoying thing to me. And again, they seem backwords.

And it carried over to the Tramp Box Set as well with both Danish Lions and Studs CD's. Same problem. I don't get it.

I switched them around to how I thought they should be when I converted but I don't necessarily know that I'm right.

An (ahem) interesting article about Mike Tramp's pre-White Lion days. Mere words can't describe it.

 

http://www.metalsludge.tv/?p=29993

It's interesting to see how the industry uses these artists to shape infrastructure and social perception of how they should live and act in order to conform to whatever social expectations are the rave at the moment. I imagine that what that was in those pictures was just another element of the phenomenon. Kind of like when the dolt said to tell Mike that saving whales isn't rock n roll.

To look at that one photo of them in the kitchen reminds me of the industry's role in stimulating or even soliciting a preferred social way of life or thinking. And then demographically we know that many countries do exist in different social lenses. Of course, that's only my opinion.

This could very well be my favorite set. Even though it's old, it has great playback value. I forgot all about it until I saw this thread and looked through my junk. I just got done converting it all so it's right there on my phone now.

 

So then nobody knows where I can buy T.A.X. - On The Run, I suppose?

I think the best method is monitoring periodically on ebay.de or hood.de

 

Thank You. I check once in a while. Appreciate the help...

So then nobody knows where I can buy T.A.X. - On The Run, I suppose?

Does anyone know where you can buy this album? I can't find it any place.

I've got all of these demos + a couple of extra ones not listed but this forum is the closest I've even seen any mention of it.

Also - Is it T.A.X. or is it TAX?

Thanks.