Vain - All Those Strangers

[heaven&hell]

I remember reading sometime post 2007 that the masters were lost and without some finanicial backing they would stay that way (Think it was on that vain fan website/board).

 

So odd that Davy Vain in 2006 would state its coming soon.

 

 

When Vain toured the UK a few years ago, my mate promoted a couple of the gigs. Davy Vain at that time didn't have a copy of All Those Strangers on any format. He didn't even own the rights to NR!!!

 

IMO the last few vain/davy cds were just ok at best, so I don't expect anything else of real quality to come out from the band.

Hope they put their energy into releasing this.

 

I bed to differ. I felt that "On the Line" is/was one great cd IMO.

The solo disc "In From Out of Nowhere" was good but not great but I loved "Fade" and "Move on It" as well as "No Respect" of course.

I have enjoyed everything from Vain but I completely understand where Rob is coming from.

 

In all honesty, 'No Respect', 'All those strangers' and 'Move on it' are all perfect albums. There is not a filler on all three and I cannot fault them at all.

 

'Fade' is a great disc and has some really excellent stuff on it... but also a couple of not-so-awesome songs. First signs of filler creeping into a Vain disc, although it's still easily my 4th favourite from the guys. 'In from out of nowhere' has it's moments and I do thoroughly enjoy the disc, but it definitely doesn't hold up to the Vain discs. The first song is killer, though. And 'On the line' is another very strong CD. All the songs are pretty damn good, but there are no real stand-out highlights whereas there was barely anything that wasn't a stand-out of the first three discs.

 

So, in summary, I don't think Vain have ever sucked and I love all albums I have from them (and Davy's solo) but I think it'd be hard to argue that the last three are nowhere near as good as the first three.

 

I can't compare the solo album to other Vain albums since it was only the Davy and Ashley with Louie with Jamie and only playing a couple of songs like the very old school Vain of "Push Me Over". You also had the great "Fly Again" and "Yellow"(also featuring Jamie Scott) as well but overall it had more of a throwback 70's vibe similar to "Fade" in some ways which also mostly featured Davy and Ashley Mitchell. I do love "Fade" but it is much more laid back when you compare to the first 3 releases. However you do have the awesome tunes like "Quick Step to Love", "Shooting Star", "Holding On", "Powder Blue"(love the vibe on this one), "Dee Dee" and "Hollow and Spun". When it comes to "On the Line" I felt like they were almost back with 4/5 of the original lineup back with Jamie and Danny playing on it and Jamie contributing some great solos IMO. I just with they'd folow the blueprint of the classic "Running on Empty" and come up with another album.

[Geoff]

I remember reading sometime post 2007 that the masters were lost and without some finanicial backing they would stay that way (Think it was on that vain fan website/board).

 

So odd that Davy Vain in 2006 would state its coming soon.

 

 

When Vain toured the UK a few years ago, my mate promoted a couple of the gigs. Davy Vain at that time didn't have a copy of All Those Strangers on any format. He didn't even own the rights to NR!!!

 

IMO the last few vain/davy cds were just ok at best, so I don't expect anything else of real quality to come out from the band.

Hope they put their energy into releasing this.

 

I bed to differ. I felt that "On the Line" is/was one great cd IMO.

The solo disc "In From Out of Nowhere" was good but not great but I loved "Fade" and "Move on It" as well as "No Respect" of course.

I have enjoyed everything from Vain but I completely understand where Rob is coming from.

 

In all honesty, 'No Respect', 'All those strangers' and 'Move on it' are all perfect albums. There is not a filler on all three and I cannot fault them at all.

 

'Fade' is a great disc and has some really excellent stuff on it... but also a couple of not-so-awesome songs. First signs of filler creeping into a Vain disc, although it's still easily my 4th favourite from the guys. 'In from out of nowhere' has it's moments and I do thoroughly enjoy the disc, but it definitely doesn't hold up to the Vain discs. The first song is killer, though. And 'On the line' is another very strong CD. All the songs are pretty damn good, but there are no real stand-out highlights whereas there was barely anything that wasn't a stand-out of the first three discs.

 

So, in summary, I don't think Vain have ever sucked and I love all albums I have from them (and Davy's solo) but I think it'd be hard to argue that the last three are nowhere near as good as the first three.

 

I can't compare the solo album to other Vain albums since it was only the Davy and Ashley with Louie with Jamie and only playing a couple of songs like the very old school Vain of "Push Me Over". You also had the great "Fly Again" and "Yellow"(also featuring Jamie Scott) as well but overall it had more of a throwback 70's vibe similar to "Fade" in some ways which also mostly featured Davy and Ashley Mitchell. I do love "Fade" but it is much more laid back when you compare to the first 3 releases. However you do have the awesome tunes like "Quick Step to Love", "Shooting Star", "Holding On", "Powder Blue"(love the vibe on this one), "Dee Dee" and "Hollow and Spun". When it comes to "On the Line" I felt like they were almost back with 4/5 of the original lineup back with Jamie and Danny playing on it and Jamie contributing some great solos IMO. I just with they'd folow the blueprint of the classic "Running on Empty" and come up with another album.

Yeah, pretty much agree with every single song you said there - nice picks from 'Fade'. I love 'Powder blue' too. And 'Dee Dee'... and all the ones you mentioned. 'Can't get back' is a great closer too.

 

Yeah, I'd love to hear a whole lot more like 'Runnin' on empty' too.

[Clutch]

I have yet to feel let down by a Vain release. In some cases, you just wish bands that you've always liked would throw the towel in at some point because they just don't have "it" anymore. Not with Vain. I always welcome new music from them.

[Captain Howdy]

I have only ever owned two Vain albums.

No respect, which I owned on cassette and then CD, is a fine slab of sleaze glam, but was totally different to pretty much any of the other bigger sleaze acts of that era.

Fade was the other album I owned by them, and I personally thought it was a load of wishy washy tripe, and got rid of it pretty sharpish.

 

Because of how bad I thought that album was, I never felt the need to buy any of their other albums as it made an impression on me that maybe they were a one album wonder.

 

To each their own I guess.

[heaven&hell]

I have only ever owned two Vain albums.

No respect, which I owned on cassette and then CD, is a fine slab of sleaze glam, but was totally different to pretty much any of the other bigger sleaze acts of that era.

Fade was the other album I owned by them, and I personally thought it was a load of wishy washy tripe, and got rid of it pretty sharpish.

 

Because of how bad I thought that album was, I never felt the need to buy any of their other albums as it made an impression on me that maybe they were a one album wonder.

 

To each their own I guess.

 

Check out 'Move on It' and 'On the Line'.

[Robtyketto]

I have only ever owned two Vain albums.

No respect, which I owned on cassette and then CD, is a fine slab of sleaze glam, but was totally different to pretty much any of the other bigger sleaze acts of that era.

Fade was the other album I owned by them, and I personally thought it was a load of wishy washy tripe, and got rid of it pretty sharpish.

 

Because of how bad I thought that album was, I never felt the need to buy any of their other albums as it made an impression on me that maybe they were a one album wonder.

 

To each their own I guess.

 

The 2nd unreleased album imo is on par with the debut and the same style, google for it especially on music blogs and download yourself a copy you won't be disappointed.

 

The first three albums are great ('Move on it' the thired album nods towards the direction of FADE) , after that not so much.

[edwithmj]

I have only ever owned two Vain albums.

No respect, which I owned on cassette and then CD, is a fine slab of sleaze glam, but was totally different to pretty much any of the other bigger sleaze acts of that era.

Fade was the other album I owned by them, and I personally thought it was a load of wishy washy tripe, and got rid of it pretty sharpish.

 

Because of how bad I thought that album was, I never felt the need to buy any of their other albums as it made an impression on me that maybe they were a one album wonder.

 

To each their own I guess.

 

The 2nd unreleased album imo is on par with the debut and the same style, google for it especially on music blogs and download yourself a copy you won't be disappointed.

 

The first three albums are great ('Move on it' the thired album nods towards the direction of FADE) , after that not so much.

 

I agree. The first album is great but does have a few filler tracks in it. The second album is almost as good but Move On It is a bit tedious for me. I found mp3s of All Those Strangers at 320 bit rate on a torrent. I'm very pleased with the quality. they sound as good as a commercial album and I advise people to get that one.

Here's the link for the torrent: http://www.torrentreactor.net/torrents/778...Those-Strangers

The trouble is, it has very few seeds and so you'll have to wait AGES to download it. It took me about a day and a half. It's worth it for the quality though.

You could search for it yourself and see what you get. The full quality album is 113 MB in size. I checked my link with the size of my own and they match.

I got the one with a JPEG of the naked woman lying in sand as the front cover.

I hope they do release it properly at some point along with a rerelease of Jillson and the two Quiet Riot albums with Rhoads but it's a lot to ask for.

 

Here's one from a blog/rapidshare link but it's only 45 MB and so bad quality. If you don't mind waiting ages then get the torrent one.

http://mausleazyden.blogspot.com/2007/07/v...angers1991.html

[metalmaniac777]

The 2nd unreleased album imo is on par with the debut and the same style......you won't be disappointed.

I agree that they're very similar in style; anyone who likes "No Respect" should also like "All Those Strangers." Personally, while this band is a long way from being among my favorites, I think "All Those Strangers" is better than "No Respect."

[edwithmj]

The 2nd unreleased album imo is on par with the debut and the same style......you won't be disappointed.

I agree that they're very similar in style; anyone who likes "No Respect" should also like "All Those Strangers." Personally, while this band is a long way from being among my favorites, I think "All Those Strangers" is better than "No Respect."

 

It's certainly more consistent. No Respect has five brilliant songs in it and the rest is OK for me while All Those Strangers has a lot of good stuff but no real stand out tracks. Love Drug and Shooting Star are excellent tracks.

[heaven&hell]

The 2nd unreleased album imo is on par with the debut and the same style......you won't be disappointed.

I agree that they're very similar in style; anyone who likes "No Respect" should also like "All Those Strangers." Personally, while this band is a long way from being among my favorites, I think "All Those Strangers" is better than "No Respect."

 

It's certainly more consistent. No Respect has five brilliant songs in it and the rest is OK for me while All Those Strangers has a lot of good stuff but no real stand out tracks. Love Drug and Shooting Star are excellent tracks.

 

Hey I love "All Those Strangers" and all but to me "No Respect"=Perfection.

[Evil Rick]

The 2nd unreleased album imo is on par with the debut and the same style......you won't be disappointed.

I agree that they're very similar in style; anyone who likes "No Respect" should also like "All Those Strangers." Personally, while this band is a long way from being among my favorites, I think "All Those Strangers" is better than "No Respect."

 

It's certainly more consistent. No Respect has five brilliant songs in it and the rest is OK for me while All Those Strangers has a lot of good stuff but no real stand out tracks. Love Drug and Shooting Star are excellent tracks.

 

Hey I love "All Those Strangers" and all but to me "No Respect"=Perfection.

I agree 100%!

[heaven&hell]

The 2nd unreleased album imo is on par with the debut and the same style......you won't be disappointed.

I agree that they're very similar in style; anyone who likes "No Respect" should also like "All Those Strangers." Personally, while this band is a long way from being among my favorites, I think "All Those Strangers" is better than "No Respect."

 

It's certainly more consistent. No Respect has five brilliant songs in it and the rest is OK for me while All Those Strangers has a lot of good stuff but no real stand out tracks. Love Drug and Shooting Star are excellent tracks.

 

Hey I love "All Those Strangers" and all but to me "No Respect"=Perfection.

I agree 100%!

 

You have great taste my friend.

[Geoff]

Yeah, I love 'All those strangers' immensely, but it doesn't match 'No Respect' if you ask me. It's like comparing $1,000,000 to $1,000,010 though.

[Stefan]

Awesome. This 1991 release wasn't officially released on CD until 2009.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Geoff]

Absolute brilliance.

[kethdredd]

EDIT: he must have sold out. I got a copy 2 weeks ago.

 

You can get a cd copy of this through Davy Vain.

 

https://davyvainstore.ecwid.com/

[KarpetRydOFunk]

EDIT: he must have sold out. I got a copy 2 weeks ago.

 

You can get a cd copy of this through Davy Vain.

 

https://davyvainstore.ecwid.com/

Just MP3, though.

[kethdredd]

CD copies will be available soon. He said he took the CD page down until he gets them back in stock.

[lettard]

Brilliant disc,like it more than No Respect,although both are pretty good listens