Kidd Wikkid re-issue

glockose · January 22, 2006

Hello! again

I have been asked now to prove myself. On Monday when I get to my office I will post the offical documents you ask for.

I have no reason to lie here. I am just trying to show the TRUTH for once.

If you see Sam in the next day ask him why Trauma is no longer on his site?

**heavyharmonies** · January 22, 2006

Hello
I don't understand what you are doing here please explain

You took my TRUE comments off of this thread and told me I was insisting a riot and piling on when you continue to let these others have at it.

I have all the proof in the world for these people what more would you like

Would you like to talk to Mike Varney of Shrapnel records about the cease and desist orders he had to send Sam or would you like copies of the Lawsuit from First Strike that are going on now!!!!!!!

You continue to let this 80smetal person fight this battle with lie when the truth is offered in front of you.

I have also offered to lay the law straight on LEGIT / BOOTLEGS and you told me NO!! That I shouldn't post those things here.

I just don't understand!!!!!

This deserves a clarification.

I did remove some posts in this thread yesterday... when I thought I might actually be able to reign in the insanity. Today I decided to just let people post what they want on the issue, either pro or con, in this new forum.

I don't have the patience or desire to try and keep other people acting civil. It just doesn't work.

So if someone feels that they have proof one way or the other, or simply feel strongly about the topic, they are free to post.

EXCEPTION: I request that personal and private information (phone numbers, SSNs, home addresses, etc.) NOT be posted here. Redact any such information before posting or the postings will be deleted.

-Dan

Retrospect Records · January 22, 2006

Trauma never got off the ground because Mr Varney did not come to a licensing agreement with Retrospect.

glockose · January 22, 2006

You pressed them and sold at lease 5 copies on ebay then listed it on your site as a Retrospect release befor Mr.Varney contacted you asked what you had done.

Isn't that the way it went down?

David · January 22, 2006

Hello kids,

One thing I know about Sam and I'm sure he doesn't mind me saying is when approaching bands and signing them he doesn't tell them that he presses he's CD's on green-tinted CDR's. That is in my opinion VERY dishonest. I can guarantee that most of his bands wouldn’t have signed up with him knowing that he does CDR’s. The reason he gets a lot of great bands is because he offers them a good royalty rate and the only reason he can do this is because he saves thousands on getting the CD's done (without the bands knowing). The only reason Manillla Thrills is going to be silver pressed is because I told them that if they went through Suncity Records, their CD’s would be silver pressed. And were like WHAT? We thought Sam’s CD’s were silver pressed as well. So they made Sam have that their CD’s had to be silver pressed in the contract, but bands like Action, Sweet Teaze, etc, found out after the CDR’s had be pressed. When I approached Sam about this he said the reason that Manilla Thrills is going to be silver pressed is because they will sell over 1,000 copies, that is another lie. I do not believe that he honestly thinks that Manilla Thrills will sell more than Defcon, Rock Boulevard, Friction, etc, and they weren't silver-pressed. Things don't add up!

The reason I know is because I know a lot of the bands he deals with personally too. Once I inform them that this is the case, they are very upset about the CDR's.

There is no need for anyone to bring up Sam’s abusive language and threatening tactics, we all know Sam isn’t the best communicator and can get a little hot headed, but to his credit he has worked on it and is getting a lot better.

I appreciate what he is doing to a degree but I just wish as well as plenty of other people he would just straighten himself up a bit.

Kind Regards

Dave

Suncity Records

BrianJ8173 · January 22, 2006

I can tell you with buster cherry I knew they were gonna be cdr's and that was fine with me as long as people get to hear the tunes.

Retrospect Records · January 22, 2006

David , you are the LAST one to be preaching about Sam's signings you underhanded backstabbing sack of shit. This is a guy who purposely goes out trying to steal contracts from under Sam and tells the artists that he has sold 8,000 units of Blue Tears and that he already has "preorders" for a disc he hasn't even got a contract for yet.

So do us a favor David , shut the fuck up. Sam's kicking your ass in releases , in sales and NEVER lies about what the artist is going to get.

Your piddly-ass $4 per disc (royalty) is a joke and will lose you a contract every time.

You are a sorry excuse for a human being and you are clueless about the practices of Retrospect so do everyone a favor and concentrate on your own company.

:ahole:

nightwolf · January 22, 2006

my cds are better than youre cds??? give me a break instead of trying to cheap shot each other try keeping to the point its a very sad day when people try to to sell bands music without there consent

Retrospect Records · January 22, 2006

And who is selling music without the bands consent?

chocularok · January 22, 2006

David , you are the LAST one to be preaching about Sam's signings you underhanded backstabbing sack of shit. This is a guy who purposely goes out trying to steal contracts from under Sam and tells the artists that he has sold 8,000 units of Blue Tears and that he already has "preorders" for a disc he hasn't even got a contract for yet.

So do us a favor David , shut the fuck up. Sam's kicking your ass in releases , in sales and NEVER lies about what the artist is going to get.

Your piddly-ass $4 per disc (royalty) is a joke and will lose you a contract every time.

You are a sorry excuse for a human being and you are clueless about the practices of Retrospect so do everyone a favor and concentrate on your own company.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Keep up the "Sam speak"...we all know where it got him & I'm sure you will be following him shortly.

Retrospect Records · January 22, 2006

Right , because its ok for David to spout lies but if I try to defend the person you hate then thats not cool.

More selective bullshit from Choc.

chocularok · January 22, 2006

Right , because its ok for David to spout lies but if I try to defend the person you hate then thats not cool.
More selective bullshit from Choc.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

First of all, I don't "hate" anyone here...don't go putting words in my mouth.

As far as Dave spouting lies...the one business practice we all know is true is Sam's choice of recorded media.

And lastly, at least in Dave's posts, they are civil in tone. You (& Sam) seem to not be able to post without using the words "fuck" or "bullshit".

Grow up.

Retrospect Records · January 22, 2006

I have only just started to use the word fuck and shit because nothing else seems to get through. It doesn't matter about civility in tone , a lie is a lie and hypocrisy is hypocrisy.

Just call it how I see it.

lrc72315 · January 22, 2006

The Plot Thickens.......tune in tomorrow for another exciting episode of "As The Cd Turns" ........hahahaha!!!!

chocularok · January 22, 2006

The Plot Thickens.......tune in tomorrow for another exciting episode of "As The Cd Turns" ........hahahaha!!!!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

:rofl2: Funny stuff...my wife was reading some of this thread over my shoulder & made the comment that it's better than any of the soaps on tv!

chocularok · January 22, 2006

I have only just started to use the word fuck and shit because nothing else seems to get through. It doesn't matter about civility in tone , a lie is a lie and hypocrisy is hypocrisy.

Just call it how I see it.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It just seems to me that we can all have a discussion (re:argument) without resorting to the childish name-calling.

I can't speak of Dave's business practices because I don't have any first hand knowledge of it...the only thing that I remember people bitching about was that Dave was SLOW to deliver product, but that when it did finally arrive, it was first rate.

Doksdad · January 22, 2006

I am quite enjoying this..... :popcorn: Anyone else????

zacharyamelie · January 22, 2006

My Habs were losing 6-0 at the end of the first period, this is alot more interesting. I know somebody else who is also enjoying this after his Leafs lost 7-0 to the Sens. Our teams suck!!

David · January 22, 2006

Hi again kids,

I speak to these bands personally almost everyday. I know the truth and that's what matters to me. The rest of the people can believe what they want. You don't hear me talking about other record label like this. I have the up most respect for labels like Metal Mayhem, Perris Records, Z Records, MTM Records, etc....

Sam may be kicking Suncity Record's arse in the number of releases he releases but I believe in quality not quantity and Sam knows that.

Kind Regards

Dave

Suncity Records

stormspell · January 22, 2006

Auctioning bootlegged material? Like what?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hahahah, those below are links to the current Russian and Greek bootlegs you have on eBay.

I see you were dead serious when said you will stock on all upcoming Greek bootlegs, good job man! Seems you got them all, E-X-E, SABBAT, REALM, all "Ultra Rare" series...

WOW, I even see you got the HEAVEN - Bent CD on Heatsink for which you jumped all over me calling me hypocrite - sweet!

I hope this list will answer your question from above in plenty

Yeah, I know, I'm going to shut the f*** up

http://cgi.ebay.com/ANGEL-DUST-CD-Into-the...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/E-X-E-cd-Stricken-By-M...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ARTILLERY-CD-By-Inheri...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/E-L-F-DlO-2on1-CD-E-l-...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/EXCALIBUR-ORACLE-2on1-...1QQcmdZViewItem

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http://cgi.ebay.com/GRAVE-DIGGER-CD-Strong...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/HEADSTONE-INVADER-2on1...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/HEAVEN-CD-Bent-1982-FA...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/HEAVEN-CD-Knockin-On-H...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/IMPULSE-MISSIO-2on1-CD...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/KUNI-2on1-CD-Lookin-Fo...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/MADE-IN-SWEDEN-2on1-CD...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/MADISON-CD-Diamond-Mis...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/MANOWAR-2on1-CD-Battle...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/METAL-LADY-LORETTA-2on...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/REALM-CD-Endless-War-1...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/SABBAT-CD-Dreamweaver-...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/SAIGON-WIZZ-2on1-CD-RA...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/STORMWAVE-HAPPL-2on1-C...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-80s-EURO-ME...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-80s-METAL-C...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-NWOBHM-CD-T...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-U-S-80s-MET...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/WEAPON-PROPHACY-2on1-C...1QQcmdZViewItem

Retrospect Records · January 22, 2006

Hi again kids,

I speak to these bands personally almost everyday. I know the truth and that's what matters to me. The rest of the people can believe what they want. You don't hear me talking about other record label like this. I have the up most respect for labels like Metal Mayhem, Perris Records, Z Records, MTM Records, etc....

Sam may be kicking Suncity Record's arse in the number of releases he releases but I believe in quality not quantity and Sam knows that.

Kind Regards

Dave

Suncity Records

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You have serious issues if you have the upmost respect for those labels David and really shows your ignorance of the business.

As I have explained , Metal Mayhem , MTM and Z Records have all had problems with their artists and do not pay them. If you respect that then I seriously believe you have flaws when it comes to your own label. Since you are so quick to announce that Blue Tears have sold 8,000 units , I think it's time to make a few calls and send a few emails. Darren Lazzari will back me up on that.

It's time the cat became the mouse.

Retrospect Records · January 22, 2006

Auctioning bootlegged material? Like what?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hahahah, those below are links to the current Russian and Greek bootlegs you have on eBay.

I see you were dead serious when said you will stock on all upcoming Greek bootlegs, good job man! Seems you got them all, E-X-E, SABBAT, REALM, all "Ultra Rare" series...

WOW, I even see you got the HEAVEN - Bent CD on Heatsink for which you jumped all over me calling me hypocrite - sweet!

I hope this list will answer your question from above in plenty

Yeah, I know, I'm going to shut the f*** up

http://cgi.ebay.com/ANGEL-DUST-CD-Into-the...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/E-X-E-cd-Stricken-By-M...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ARTILLERY-CD-By-Inheri...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/E-L-F-DlO-2on1-CD-E-l-...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/EXCALIBUR-ORACLE-2on1-...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/GOLIATH-s-t-CD-1985-RA...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/GRAVE-DIGGER-CD-Strong...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/HEADSTONE-INVADER-2on1...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/HEAVEN-CD-Bent-1982-FA...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/HEAVEN-CD-Knockin-On-H...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/IMPULSE-MISSIO-2on1-CD...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/KUNI-2on1-CD-Lookin-Fo...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/MADE-IN-SWEDEN-2on1-CD...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/MADISON-CD-Diamond-Mis...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/MANOWAR-2on1-CD-Battle...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/METAL-LADY-LORETTA-2on...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/REALM-CD-Endless-War-1...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/SABBAT-CD-Dreamweaver-...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/SAIGON-WIZZ-2on1-CD-RA...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/STORMWAVE-HAPPL-2on1-C...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-80s-EURO-ME...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-80s-METAL-C...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-80s-METAL-C...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-80s-METAL-C...1QQcmdZViewItem

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-80s-METAL-C...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-NWOBHM-CD-T...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-NWOBHM-CD-T...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-NWOBHM-CD-T...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-U-S-80s-MET...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-U-S-80s-MET...1QQcmdZViewItem

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http://cgi.ebay.com/WEAPON-PROPHACY-2on1-C...1QQcmdZViewItem

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Wow , Stormspell you just can't help yourself can you? One minute you are saying that you are going to stop posting about Sam and then you just keep coming back.

I've said this before and I'll say it once again...

It's the same 4 or 5 people who just can't help but being negative about Sam in any form.

You people have issues and really need to see a shrink.

So here's what we are going to see...

Koogles , Stormspell , T-Bone and possibly Chocula and Zachary doing nothing but talk shit about Retrospect.

So this will be the Retrospect-bashing forum hosted by the aforementioned names.

Have fun.

Doksdad · January 22, 2006

Auctioning bootlegged material? Like what?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hahahah, those below are links to the current Russian and Greek bootlegs you have on eBay.

I see you were dead serious when said you will stock on all upcoming Greek bootlegs, good job man! Seems you got them all, E-X-E, SABBAT, REALM, all "Ultra Rare" series...

WOW, I even see you got the HEAVEN - Bent CD on Heatsink for which you jumped all over me calling me hypocrite - sweet!

I hope this list will answer your question from above in plenty

Yeah, I know, I'm going to shut the f*** up

http://cgi.ebay.com/ANGEL-DUST-CD-Into-the...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/E-X-E-cd-Stricken-By-M...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ARTILLERY-CD-By-Inheri...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/E-L-F-DlO-2on1-CD-E-l-...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/EXCALIBUR-ORACLE-2on1-...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/GOLIATH-s-t-CD-1985-RA...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/GRAVE-DIGGER-CD-Strong...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/HEADSTONE-INVADER-2on1...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/HEAVEN-CD-Bent-1982-FA...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/HEAVEN-CD-Knockin-On-H...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/IMPULSE-MISSIO-2on1-CD...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/KUNI-2on1-CD-Lookin-Fo...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/MADE-IN-SWEDEN-2on1-CD...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/MADISON-CD-Diamond-Mis...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/MANOWAR-2on1-CD-Battle...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/METAL-LADY-LORETTA-2on...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/REALM-CD-Endless-War-1...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/SABBAT-CD-Dreamweaver-...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/SAIGON-WIZZ-2on1-CD-RA...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/STORMWAVE-HAPPL-2on1-C...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-80s-EURO-ME...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-80s-METAL-C...1QQcmdZViewItem

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-NWOBHM-CD-T...1QQcmdZViewItem

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-U-S-80s-MET...1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/WEAPON-PROPHACY-2on1-C...1QQcmdZViewItem

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Holy Crap Storm. You did your homework!! You get an A+ and you don't have to shower after gym class :lol: ~C

Retrospect Records · January 22, 2006

One more thing Stormy , I noticed you didn't mention ONE Retrospect release....once again.

stormspell · January 22, 2006

Wow , Stormspell you just can't help yourself can you? One minute you are saying that you are going to stop posting about Sam and then you just keep coming back.

I've said this before and I'll say it once again...

It's the same 4 or 5 people who just can't help but being negative about Sam in any form.

You people have issues and really need to see a shrink.

So here's what we are going to see...

Koogles , Stormspell , T-Bone and possibly Chocula and Zachary doing nothing but talk shit about Retrospect.

So this will be the Retrospect-bashing forum hosted by the aforementioned names.

Have fun.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

No, I told you to leave me out from your conspiracy theories who is blowing the whistle on you to "your" bands. I dont do this, I have better things to do, believe it or not.

I always speak my mind about bootlegs and you should know better when asking for evidences, with all those auctions of yours in progress. How could I refrain of not pointing out to them WHEN you pretending you are clean as a whistle?

No, it is not a bashing forum, you ASKED, and I answered. Now instead of running away pointing fingers, just stay ON THE TOPIC and clarify, DOES SAM CARRY ON BOOTLEGS ON EBAY, OR YES?

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