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4 hours ago, martinsane said:

Not so sure it was a fuck you, just a cultural thing, so Trump went with the military salute, which is a sign of respect and the Chinese military man (sorry not even a care to who he is) went with the western salutation, the hand shake. Each attempting to show respect, which is not a show of weakness.

 

As for presidents saluting it is stated that no civilian, even retired military should "salute" as that is an active military thing. President Reagan started doing it as a sign of respect (and awkwardness at the servicemen/women who would salute him for ever, which is a thing as the the president is the "commander in chief" and the salute is as mentioned is a form of respect to that position.)

I still think saluting someone who's put their hand out to shake is a massive Fuck You.

Unless, as I said, Trump then preceded to shake his hand.

That's okay though mate, even if you disagree, I salute you.     :bananamac:

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1 hour ago, Darkstone said:

I still think saluting someone who's put their hand out to shake is a massive Fuck You.

Unless, as I said, Trump then preceded to shake his hand.

That's okay though mate, even if you disagree, I salute you.     :bananamac:

Yea that is the thing about that picture is, as we know, the media will spin something out of control. As you said they both could have went in hot and that photo happened while the 2 men got their bearings, shook hands, saluted, circle jerked and enjoyed a nice burrito.

For Those About To Start, We Salute You. - Stephen Moore - Medium

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Seems pretty clear to me, he knew he didnt want Covid so he did the correct social way of greeting.

 

 

 

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19 hours ago, Darkstone said:

I don't think he did. The US is not at war with China. This is merely a General from a foreign Country.

I still think his action was a diplomatic Fuck You.

Going with the salute and refusing to shake an offered hand is a huge affront in any culture. (Maybe not so much these days with the 'rona.)

North Korea is at war with our ally-South Korea-so he shouldn't have saluted.

And after saluting he also shook hands

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1 hour ago, nyoilers said:

North Korea is at war with our ally-South Korea-so he shouldn't have saluted.

And after saluting he also shook hands

My bad. I thought he was Chinese. I didn't notice Kim in the background. 

I still stand by my comment though as the US isn't at war with North Korea.

Even though the relationship isn't good, I'm not sure South Korea is either.

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1 hour ago, Darkstone said:

My bad. I thought he was Chinese. I didn't notice Kim in the background. 

I still stand by my comment though as the US isn't at war with North Korea.

Even though the relationship isn't good, I'm not sure South Korea is either.

They are not. He's just an idiot windbag. 

The Korean War is not over since 1950 but they aren't currently at war. 

The US has more to worry about from NK than SK does. 

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28 minutes ago, Metal T said:

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And then there was this,Obama bowing to a Japanese robot like the idiot he was/is:

 

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Obama shoulda punched that robot in the face before it became an expert three point shooter at the Olympics. 

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On 8/13/2021 at 9:50 PM, Glen said:

thats the problem with socialism,  you always run out of other peoples money 💰 


How is Capitalism different? It's just the distribution that's different. Once all the money flows to the few you run out of money as well, only what happens is governments borrow or make more money. All Governments. Usually republicans borrow more but bitch more when democrats do it. 

Simple fact is that if you want to grow GDP you supply money to those who will spend it.  Everything else is a conversation about 'fairness'. 

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8 hours ago, auslander said:

Obama shoulda punched that robot in the face before it became an expert three point shooter at the Olympics. 

I saw that robot/terminator. That's scary shit man.

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2 hours ago, PeterS said:


How is Capitalism different? It's just the distribution that's different. Once all the money flows to the few you run out of money as well, only what happens is governments borrow or make more money. All Governments. Usually republicans borrow more but bitch more when democrats do it. 

Simple fact is that if you want to grow GDP you supply money to those who will spend it.  Everything else is a conversation about 'fairness'. 

sorry mate disagree. Labour governments in the UK have a tendency to drive up business tax and taxes on the 'wealthy' - who actually aren't wealthy at all.  just hard working middle class families. 

its actually proven that lowering business tax generates more revenue as businesses boom. Also if you tax the wealth creators they have a tendency to bugger off elsewhere so again bad for the economy. 

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16 minutes ago, Glen said:

sorry mate disagree. Labour governments in the UK have a tendency to drive up business tax and taxes on the 'wealthy' - who actually aren't wealthy at all.  just hard working middle class families. 

its actually proven that lowering business tax generates more revenue as businesses boom. Also if you tax the wealth creators they have a tendency to bugger off elsewhere so again bad for the economy. 


Where's the proof of that? 

Wealthy isn't the middle class.  They are the ones driving the economy though consumption. 

I'd actually be curious to see stats on the number of 'wealth creators' who moved because of the various governments. 

I'm not an advocate of either full on capitalism or socialism. The extremes both have huge problems. 

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1 hour ago, Glen said:

sorry mate disagree. Labour governments in the UK have a tendency to drive up business tax and taxes on the 'wealthy' - who actually aren't wealthy at all.  just hard working middle class families. 

its actually proven that lowering business tax generates more revenue as businesses boom. Also if you tax the wealth creators they have a tendency to bugger off elsewhere so again bad for the economy. 

Holy fucking jesus!!!! Glen is that you? or did someone jack your account? bro I thought you were a balls to the wheel, stretched out, tree hugging bonafide leftist, then I catch you in here spouting some financial wisdom, I hope everybody sees this, I just agreed with the 1 out of 2 people on here I dont think I ever agreed with on anything outside of music, this is a true breakthrough.

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55 minutes ago, PeterS said:


Where's the proof of that? 

Wealthy isn't the middle class.  They are the ones driving the economy though consumption. 

I'd actually be curious to see stats on the number of 'wealth creators' who moved because of the various governments. 

I'm not an advocate of either full on capitalism or socialism. The extremes both have huge problems. 

They dont move so to speak, they just keep their money elsewhere, I love capitalism because it breeds creativity and pushes competition between members of society, I believe it's what made America flourish in it's early days, everyone is in a dead sprint to become the best, or the first, or to do it better, you make as much as your worth, I fully believe that, if you dont give a fuck and just want to do the redline thing, you can, if you want to be broke, you can, if you want to make millions you can, however willing you are to do the hard work and of course fail, because no successful financial people will ever tell you they never failed, most of them detail their many failures as being one of the primary reasons for their successes, you can try and try again, until you succeed, and you can make as much money as you do or dont want, and Im a 100% proponent of that,

Im not in any way a proponent for socialism, why should I give money I destroyed myself making to anyone else? is that fair to you? do you get paid then just walk down the street and hand it to the first people you see? I see everyone taking advantage of that, fuck that shit, unless you are my daughter, my brothers, or my friends and you need financial help, you can go fuck yourself, my hard work and place in society isn't to support grown ass people who choose not to work, then want my money, I give to charity's, I donate to all kinds of non profits, I even donate my time when I go down to the salvation army and serve thanksgiving dinner, and I take kids out from the boys and girls club and spend time showing them how to hit and throw baseballs, I take them to games, I love helping truly disadvantaged people, and people who are going through shitty times and are destitute, but one thing I got a big fucking problem with is free loaders, and socialism caters to them.

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Need is the mother of invention.

 

 Once you have too much then you probably won’t put too much effort in 

Police, Military, Teachers etc etc part of a social system. Should they be done away with? 

 

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14 minutes ago, PeterS said:

Need is the mother of invention.

 

 Once you have too much then you probably won’t put too much effort in 

I don't know man, as long as I can take care of me, and have the things I Need and want, and believe me, I'm not good with money by nature, Ive fucking squandered, gambled, invested, and fucked off money I wouldn't even want to try and add up, it's taken some big time fucked up lessons to smarten me up with money, and people who don't have money think money is everything, people who have money know it's not even close to everything, but I got to where I just save it, well I mean I have cool shit that I worked hard for, my daughters got cooler shit then I do, that I worked for, and I know I could drop dead tomorrow and non of it would mean a thing, my favorite shit to do is stupid little shit, like paying for someones dinner randomly in a restaurant, its fun, you make someone else happy, or tipping your waiter or waitress a bill if they do an excellent job, or if they got big titties and bend way down to pour your water for you, worth a tip, I'm not rich at all, im not even well off, I just do what I do, and I don't do shit for money anymore, that breeds bad feelings and shit, do shit you like to do, take pride and do it well, and you will succeed, I can only speak for me, but I never do shit that isn't 100% because if I do anything, and it isn't the best, then my name is tied to whatever it is, and I do not ever want to be ashamed of something with my name on it, that's why Ive never had a marriage certificate.

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1 minute ago, Leykis101 said:

I don't know man, as long as I can take care of me, and have the things I Need and want, and believe me, I'm not good with money by nature, Ive fucking squandered, gambled, invested, and fucked off money I wouldn't even want to try and add up, it's taken some big time fucked up lessons to smarten me up with money, and people who don't have money think money is everything, people who have money know it's not even close to everything, but I got to where I just save it, well I mean I have cool shit that I worked hard for, my daughters got cooler shit then I do, that I worked for, and I know I could drop dead tomorrow and non of it would mean a thing, my favorite shit to do is stupid little shit, like paying for someones dinner randomly in a restaurant, its fun, you make someone else happy, or tipping your waiter or waitress a bill if they do an excellent job, or if they got big titties and bend way down to pour your water for you, worth a tip, I'm not rich at all, im not even well off, I just do what I do, and I don't do shit for money anymore, that breeds bad feelings and shit, do shit you like to do, take pride and do it well, and you will succeed, I can only speak for me, but I never do shit that isn't 100% because if I do anything, and it isn't the best, then my name is tied to whatever it is, and I do not ever want to be ashamed of something with my name on it, that's why Ive never had a marriage certificate.


I have problems with generational wealth and don't see how those who believe in 'hard work' support it. You think rich kids work hard? 

All I'd like to see is a system where your 'work' is fairly rewarded but opportunity is there for all and the best do rise to the top. Always remembering you're a day away from a really bad day and having a society that will be there for you if it happens to you is in your own best interests. 

There are rich freeloaders and poor.  Can't get away from it. Not having a good fair society that supports all always stuck me as dumb as you're ultimately hurting yourself as you're part of that society. There are reasons the social democratic countries lead the happiness indexes. 

Give me good roads , clean environment, education, safe society where I can go out alone at night with no worries , etc over some dog eat dog society any day. Probably why I like living in Germany so much. We do pretty well economically as well. 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Leykis101 said:

Holy fucking jesus!!!! Glen is that you? or did someone jack your account? bro I thought you were a balls to the wheel, stretched out, tree hugging bonafide leftist, then I catch you in here spouting some financial wisdom, I hope everybody sees this, I just agreed with the 1 out of 2 people on here I dont think I ever agreed with on anything outside of music, this is a true breakthrough.

I've told you a million times I'm not left or labour as is the term in the UK, but you just ignore me. 

I also told you I wanted Trump gone because his stupid trade war with China was fucking up my pension but you didn't believe that either 🤔 😒 

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20 minutes ago, Glen said:

I've told you a million times I'm not left or labour as is the term in the UK, but you just ignore me. 

I also told you I wanted Trump gone because his stupid trade war with China was fucking up my pension but you didn't believe that either 🤔 😒 

 

Trump fucked up your pension and now Biden fucked the Afghanistan people.

You simply can't win all the time ;)

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1 minute ago, Stefan said:

 

Trump fucked up your pension and now Biden fucked the Afghanistan people.

You simply can't win all the time ;)

actually trump signed the order for the withdrawal but we'll ignore that tiny fact ;)

 

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5 minutes ago, Glen said:

actually trump signed the order for the withdrawal but we'll ignore that tiny fact ;)

 

The decision to withdraw is not the problem, the problem is how it is executed. And my God, that was the worst withdrawal ever. 

But hey, you get what you elect.

Clusterfuck.

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7 minutes ago, Stefan said:

The decision to withdraw is not the problem, the problem is how it is executed. And my God, that was the worst withdrawal ever. 

But hey, you get what you elect.

Clusterfuck.

Trump in April: “Getting out of Afghanistan is a wonderful and positive thing to do. I planned to withdraw on May 1st, and we should keep as close to that

schedule as possible.”

;)

 

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15 minutes ago, Glen said:

Trump in April: “Getting out of Afghanistan is a wonderful and positive thing to do. I planned to withdraw on May 1st, and we should keep as close to that

schedule as possible.”

;)

 

Yes we have been there for 20 fucking years, built them a military, supplied them with all of our new age weapons, trained them, and they outnumbered the Taliban, they all put their dicks between their legs and gave up, their president skipped town, Trump aligned all of this but guess what? it doesnt make a fuck of difference cause Trump aint the president anymore, so you cannot blame him for shit, they knew damn well when trump was president not to fuck around with him, they know Biden is weak, and they took full advantage of that, Biden could have held down until all the civilians were withdrawn, how fucking long does someone need to build a military? the Taliban are just fighters not even based in a state, well now they are, I am brokenhearted to watch the citizens seeing their lives vanish before their eyes, and if I was President, there would be Carriers already dispatched and on there way over there, our Marines would be building up, and we would go in and just annihilate that place, reduce it to a parking lot, any taliban would be shot on the spot, but then what? do we just throw up a Walmart and some strip clubs and announce it's part of the US now forward? it's pretty apparent none of those military troops gave a fuck enough to die for their country, but my family did, whats your solution Glen?

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