Audi A4 or BMW 330i

[Dead Planet]

I'm seriously considering giving myself a retirement gift and I've narrowed it down to the Audi A4 or BMW 330i....I'm wondering if you guys have any opinions on the subject?

[KarpetRydOFunk]

What year? Brand new?

[Dead Planet]

35 minutes ago, KarpetRydOFunk said:

What year? Brand new?

New.....2021....

[KarpetRydOFunk]

I would say Audi. 

Of the three major German sports sedans (Audi, BMW, Mercedes) BMW seems to be the most common. In my area, at least. They're everywhere. So the Audi would be a bit more unique. Plus I like the styling of the new Audi's more than BMW. 

Now, I've not had any experience with any new models, but I have driven a few of each and I can't say one is a clear winner for me. And you're probably not gonna drive them in extreme conditions, so you'll never fully test their respective capabilities. It really comes down to a multitude of preferences (interior styling, exterior styling, available options, fuel economy, room in the boot maybe?).

I just like the look of Audi over BMW, right now. 

Just make sure it's got a nice system, but I don't think disc drives are a thing anymore. 

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[nyoilers]

I stopped spending money when I retired.

My gift is every morning when I wake up.That's the best !

 

[Mr.AOR]

Audi everytime and if you can afford it get the Audi RS4, though you won't get a new one as i think they done away with the RS4 in the states when the model had a face lift in 2020. 

[Dead Planet]

8 hours ago, KarpetRydOFunk said:

I would say Audi. 

Of the three major German sports sedans (Audi, BMW, Mercedes) BMW seems to be the most common. In my area, at least. They're everywhere. So the Audi would be a bit more unique. Plus I like the styling of the new Audi's more than BMW. 

Now, I've not had any experience with any new models, but I have driven a few of each and I can't say one is a clear winner for me. And you're probably not gonna drive them in extreme conditions, so you'll never fully test their respective capabilities. It really comes down to a multitude of preferences (interior styling, exterior styling, available options, fuel economy, room in the boot maybe?).

I just like the look of Audi over BMW, right now. 

Just make sure it's got a nice system, but I don't think disc drives are a thing anymore. 

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Yeah from all I've read and the youtube reviews, they are pretty close when it comes to reliability, gas mileage , comfort, power etc... I have no preference when it comes to looks so I guess the next step is test driving sometime this Spring.....as long as it has a USB port I'm good for music....I've only used the cd player in my Rogue once since I've owned the vehicle....

[Dead Planet]

2 minutes ago, Mr.AOR said:

Audi everytime and if you can afford it get the Audi RS4, though you won't get a new one as i think they done away with the RS4 in the states when the model had a face lift in 2020. 

I believe the RS3 is available but it starts at $65000 so that is a bit more than my retirement can handle... lol...

[martinsane]

Of the 2 choices, neither and that's just cuz the sedans are pretty lackluster in appearance imho.

 

If I was looking to drop close to 50 large on a new rig I'd look elsewhere.

HOWEVER, if I had to choose it would be this, MSRP is said to be $53k:

BUT this A6 variant is even nicer, but is closer to $70k all in, yikes.

 

 

For me if I was adding "re" to my tired I'd go this route:

 

[Leykis101]

Any car that to buy a part for you have to take out a loan or dip into your savings to buy, none of them are worth it

[Dead Planet]

8 hours ago, martinsane said:

Of the 2 choices, neither and that's just cuz the sedans are pretty lackluster in appearance imho.

 

If I was looking to drop close to 50 large on a new rig I'd look elsewhere.

HOWEVER, if I had to choose it would be this, MSRP is said to be $53k:

BUT this A6 variant is even nicer, but is closer to $70k all in, yikes.

 

 

For me if I was adding "re" to my tired I'd go this route:

 

That is the best looking station wagon ever IMO but I'm not really looking for one of those.....

[Dead Planet]

4 hours ago, Leykis101 said:

Any car that to buy a part for you have to take out a loan or dip into your savings to buy, none of them are worth it

Yeah that is a definite concern as both car companies make parts and repairs ridiculously expensive.....

[martinsane]

1 hour ago, Dead Planet said:

Yeah that is a definite concern as both car companies make parts and repairs ridiculously expensive.....

Tis true, I owned a VW Passat SW and a brake job alone was $500 a wheel up front and $750 for the pair in the rear...

 

BUT it was probably my favorite car I've owned, minus the exorbitant maintenance costs.

 

As for the old timey wagon and wagons in general thats my bag, so I get it DP.

[Leykis101]

its fucking ridiculous, especially those audis

 

[KarpetRydOFunk]

But aren't all vehicles expensive to repair these days? I mean, everything is "German engineered," and "made in collaboration with (name a Japanese brand)," so aren't all parts expensive? 

I dunno. I just think maybe our perception of maintaining imports hasn't changed in twenty years. Or maybe I'm wrong. 

[martinsane]

2 minutes ago, KarpetRydOFunk said:

But aren't all vehicles expensive to repair these days? I mean, everything is "German engineered," and "made in collaboration with (name a Japanese brand)," so aren't all parts expensive? 

I dunno. I just think maybe our perception of maintaining imports hasn't changed in twenty years. Or maybe I'm wrong. 

The #'s I mentioned were for my 2000 Passatt, so I can only assume those numbers have gone up.

 

Keep em old and carburetedted so you can skip emissions and work on 'em yourself.

[Dead Planet]

22 minutes ago, KarpetRydOFunk said:

But aren't all vehicles expensive to repair these days? I mean, everything is "German engineered," and "made in collaboration with (name a Japanese brand)," so aren't all parts expensive? 

I dunno. I just think maybe our perception of maintaining imports hasn't changed in twenty years. Or maybe I'm wrong. 

Part of the problem I believe is that the parts for Audi and BMW have to be shipped in from Europe.....and then there is the issue of finding qualified mechanics to work on the cars....

[KarpetRydOFunk]

20 minutes ago, martinsane said:

The #'s I mentioned were for my 2000 Passatt, so I can only assume those numbers have gone up.

 

Keep em old and carburetedted so you can skip emissions and work on 'em yourself.

We got rid of our emissions program I think four years ago. Maybe longer. What a waste of time and money that was. 

[Dead Planet]

1 minute ago, KarpetRydOFunk said:

We got rid of our emissions program I think four years ago. Maybe longer. What a waste of time and money that was. 

They have one in Ontario and it was a pain in the ass......

[KarpetRydOFunk]

11 minutes ago, Dead Planet said:

Part of the problem I believe is that the parts for Audi and BMW have to be shipped in from Europe.....and then there is the issue of finding qualified mechanics to work on the cars....

Right. But I mean a major repair is always gonna be costly. Regular maintenance on imports (oil change, filters, brakes) shouldn't be significantly more than on their domestic counterparts. 

I've found that most competent mechanics can fix most issues on most vehicles. Unless the job requires a specialist, or a proprietary tool. And you can always have your car serviced by the dealer. Or are the dealers out of town?

[nyoilers]

Are there any domestic cars are that are totally made in one country ?

[Dead Planet]

1 hour ago, nyoilers said:

Are there any domestic cars are that are totally made in one country ?

There are quite a few vehicles made in North America but the parts come from the US, Canada and Mexico and some from Europe so the answer I think is no.....

[Dead Planet]

Maybe I should be more open minded and consider the G70 or Stinger....

 

[KarpetRydOFunk]

16 minutes ago, Dead Planet said:

Maybe I should be more open minded and consider the G70 or Stinger....

 

I have a 2011 Hyundai Genesis. When I'm ready to upgrade I'll def be considering the Genesis brand, again. Though, I'd want the G90, because I like big cars. But, yeah, Genesis has done well for themselves: their cars look great; they drive nicely; mine has a 17 speaker sound system, Dolby 7.1 surround, so I'd hope the new ones have a similar option. 

[nyoilers]

13 hours ago, KarpetRydOFunk said:

I have a 2011 Hyundai Genesis. When I'm ready to upgrade I'll def be considering the Genesis brand, again. Though, I'd want the G90, because I like big cars. But, yeah, Genesis has done well for themselves: their cars look great; they drive nicely; mine has a 17 speaker sound system, Dolby 7.1 surround, so I'd hope the new ones have a similar option. 

Big man,big cars,etc...