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1 hour ago, Glen said:

all official stats - sources are at the bottom. I just thought you might like some real evidence that this is still an issue as you seem to think it's not.

whatever you might say this level of discrimination is still rife in the world and it's up to governments to drive real change.

at no point did I say riots were the answer - they are not. But people have the legal right to peaceful protest.

also at no point did I say I was socialist or left. Your political bias should have no influence over whether you want equality in the world

I'm not saying anything isn't an issue. You can make an issue out of absolutely anything. There are countless issues in the world. To think we can get everything perfect and how you want it to look in this world is quite frankly just silly. But I am saying that I personally believe there are far greater issues than this perceived mass discrimination. 

I don't have political views and made my assessment based purely on what you're saying... not on how you may have labelled yourself.

I still just don't actually understand what exactly it is that you want the government to do that is going to end discrimination. You guys have all these fairy ideas but no logic as to how to actually mend these perceived issues. What do you want the government to do? How are you going to change this minuscule number of people from being racist into not being racist?

I'm going to hazard a guess that you're all aboard the climate change bus too. Just keep at those governments and we humans will stop the climate changing! It's all up to us. The climate has never changed in four and a half billion years and if we all stand together, it will never change again! 

Apologies... a tangent... but the death of logic and common sense has been a sad loss.    

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My post wasn't singling out any poster  in particular..as far as racism goes in America it's the eternal neuce that is constantly thrown around the neck of white America.The gov't and or taxpayer has

Can anyone give me an example of the last time a black cop killed an unarmed white man? I'm sure it has happened... sometime... somewhere... but if it was happening as often as white cop killing unarm

You wanted proof, heres proof, a lot more then anyone has provided to me to base any of their arguments on. Here ya go fellows, a couple brothas that get it, and their fucking hilarious. Please Watch.

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3 hours ago, Geoff said:

Most people are not racist and your riots and protests are not going to change those that are. 

 

1 hour ago, Glen said:

whatever you might say this level of discrimination is still rife in the world and it's up to governments to drive real change.

Most people aren't actively racist, but passively racist, because a passive approach to the issue implies one doesn't acknowledge it to be an issue at all. 

But, yes, most racism is systemic. So we need to change the system, which is why we're calling on the governments to make that change. For fuck's sake, slavery was technically still legal in the state of Mississippi up until 2013, due to an "oversight."

Also, a week of protests has already brought about a lot of change, so explain to me how protesting is pointless. 

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2 minutes ago, Geoff said:

I'm not saying anything isn't an issue. You can make an issue out of absolutely anything. There are countless issues in the world. To think we can get everything perfect and how you want it to look in this world is quite frankly just silly. But I am saying that I personally believe there are far greater issues than this perceived mass discrimination. 

I don't have political views and made my assessment based purely on what you're saying... not what on how you may have labelled yourself.

I still just don't actually understand what exactly it is that you want the government to do that is going to end discrimination. You guys have all these fairy ideas but no logic as to how to actually mend these perceived issues. What do you want the government to do? How are you going to change this minuscule number of people from being racist into not being racist?

I'm going to hazard a guess that you're all aboard the climate change bus too. Just keep at those governments and we humans will stop the climate changing! It's all up to us. The climate has never changed in four and a half billion years and if we all stand together, it will never change again! 

Apologies... a tangent... but the death of logic and common sense has been a sad loss.    

mate just be thankful in life that you are not black.

if you think this is minuscule you are deluded.

you tell me why those stats are what they are - cos it sure as hell isn't right.

in terms of what needs doing it needs to be driven at government level.

fundamental change to mean that people aren't discriminated against in all walks of life.

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1 hour ago, Geoff said:

I'm not saying anything isn't an issue. You can make an issue out of absolutely anything. There are countless issues in the world. To think we can get everything perfect and how you want it to look in this world is quite frankly just silly. But I am saying that I personally believe there are far greater issues than this perceived mass discrimination. 

I don't have political views and made my assessment based purely on what you're saying... not on how you may have labelled yourself.

I still just don't actually understand what exactly it is that you want the government to do that is going to end discrimination. You guys have all these fairy ideas but no logic as to how to actually mend these perceived issues. What do you want the government to do? How are you going to change this minuscule number of people from being racist into not being racist?

I'm going to hazard a guess that you're all aboard the climate change bus too. Just keep at those governments and we humans will stop the climate changing! It's all up to us. The climate has never changed in four and a half billion years and if we all stand together, it will never change again! 

Apologies... a tangent... but the death of logic and common sense has been a sad loss.    

I'm all for ending systematic racism so I'm not doing to discount it....And I'm not black so I have no idea what its like in their shoes.  

But, I see articles like the following and it's sure easy to feel like there are bigger problems than the issues behind BLM:

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/6/8/21281998/chicago-violence-murder-history-homicide-police-crime

This is just one day in Chicago.

Fixing the issues that BLM wants fixed aren't helping the people that still die every day to violence and crime in our cities.  Frankly, the main effect will probably just be to increase crime and violence because there will way way less police officers in the future as a result of all this IMO.

Until we fixed our core values and gain respect for fellow man, we'll still be a mess no matter what changes are instituted by the Government.

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anybody looting as a result of this is the lowest of low life 

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Lets not forget the latest crazyness...DEFUND THE POLICE.....how stupid do you have to be to think this is an acceptable path forwards? I don't have a problem with putting more money into social services and letting them try to fix some of the issues that have been dropped on the police, but lets wait to see if this actually causes a drop in crime before we strip the police of resources...If I get assaulted and robbed I don't want a social worker showing up to tell me that it is society's fault and that I should forgive and forget...

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6 minutes ago, Dead Planet said:

Lets not forget the latest crazyness...DEFUND THE POLICE.....how stupid do you have to be to think this is an acceptable path forwards? I don't have a problem with putting more money into social services and letting them try to fix some of the issues that have been dropped on the police, but lets wait to see if this actually causes a drop in crime before we strip the police of resources...If I get assaulted and robbed I don't want a social worker showing up to tell me that it is society's fault and that I should forgive and forget...

Isn't it more lessen funding than remove it altogether? From what I understood, it was to remove funding towards militarising the police. 

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21 minutes ago, KarpetRydOFunk said:

Isn't it more lessen funding than remove it altogether? From what I understood, it was to remove funding towards militarising the police. 

My point is that until this 'new way' is proven to work there should be no drop in police resources....

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2 hours ago, Dead Planet said:

My point is that until this 'new way' is proven to work there should be no drop in police resources....

if you actually read what the bill states there is no defunding.

Just Trumps usual silly broadbrush tweets claiming that all democrats want defunding. 

There were just a few which supported it but that was dismissed by Biden.

From what I understand most of it is around making the police more accountable for their actions. 

 

 

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38 minutes ago, Glen said:

if you actually read what the bill states there is no defunding.

Just Trumps usual silly broadbrush tweets claiming that all democrats want defunding. 

There were just a few which supported it but that was dismissed by Biden.

From what I understand most of it is around making the police more accountable for their actions. 

 

 

I only just heard about the new bill, it sounds about right...hopefully it will actually do something positive....I was talking about the signs at the protests and the far left saying that the police needed to be defunded....

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seriously .... Trump has plumbed a new depth even for him. I mean WTF. 

 

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5 hours ago, Glen said:

seriously .... Trump has plumbed a new depth even for him. I mean WTF. 

 

He was never very stable mentally and now he is starting to break down completely....the closer we get to the November election and if the polls don't favor him it will get even more interesting :)

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Doesn't matter why the stupid cunt fell. In a country with the highest numbers for a global pandemic, in the vulnerable age group, has the stupid old cunt honestly got nothing better to do than confront police in the middle of a riot? I hope the fall knocked some sense into the braindead fuck. 

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38 minutes ago, Geoff said:

Doesn't matter why the stupid cunt fell. In a country with the highest numbers for a global pandemic, in the vulnerable age group, has the stupid old cunt honestly got nothing better to do than confront police in the middle of a riot? I hope the fall knocked some sense into the braindead fuck. 

protests are badly timed - that is for sure - but that doesn't mean you should condone this kind of police action.

Nor should the PRESIDENT defend it with some balmy conspiracy theory.

And your Cs & Fs  don't add any gravity to your opinion and won't make anyone agree with you. 

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1 hour ago, Glen said:

protests are badly timed - that is for sure - but that doesn't mean you should condone this kind of police action.

Nor should the PRESIDENT defend it with some balmy conspiracy theory.

And your Cs & Fs  don't add any gravity to your opinion and won't make anyone agree with you. 

Mate, you get me wrong. I am not using C's and F's to get people to agree with me. Based on a lot of commentary so far, I know what won't be happening. I'm using F's and C's because your horrendously PC views are actually succeeding in agitating me, at times, greatly. 

I shouldn't condone this type of police action? Do you remember my very honest earlier post when I said that I wished the police would spray the crowds both over here, and the US - the UK too. Anywhere... spray the crowds with bullets? Remember I said that? That's how I'd like to see this treated. So no, I do not care if a moron falls over after confronting police in the middle of a riot. You're offended by the police action? What about the stupid cunt's actions? 

Do you even understand that this guy you guys are all crying about was arrested 8 times on drug and theft charges before he found your lord and saviour jesus christ? Spent time in prison for a robbery where he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach and threatened their lives? Apparently finding Jesus turned him around, but who knows as it sounds like there were plenty of drugs in him when he was killed. 

I'm not saying I condone the whole knee on the neck way this all went down in this case, but it sure took a long time for that kind of information to be made public. 

It just really irritates me that you want to strip police of their powers so that beautiful humans like this can run free. To me it sounds like you don't want people to be arrested anymore, and if they have to be, you'd like them chauffeured to the police station in a cushioned limousine - and only if they agree to be arrested. Christ knows you'd not want any force to be used to arrest a criminal. 

Which I am not saying George Floyd was, anymore, I hope. Who knows? 

But your PC views are very offensive to me. I wonder if it ever crosses your mind what you'd like the police to do if someone attacked your family? Do you even spare a thought for victims of crime? You seem to focus a hell of a lot of attention on the poor guys who commit crimes. But what about the people who live with the repercussions of these crimes for the rest of their lives?  

And another factor that you and I may not grasp completely when we see these stories in the US - remember almost everyone there has a gun. Can you grasp for a second how unsettling that must be for police over there? Can you blame them for wanting to go home to their families at night? Again, I am not talking about this George Floyd matter here, but neither are you with all your rubbish talk. 

You may want fairies and flowers for all criminals and no police action, but again, put yourself in a situation where you and your family are under threat and ask yourself how you'd like the police to act. 

Fuck's sake... just don't understand people at all. Fact is, as much as you'd love to believe it, police for the most part (as in I'd guess well over 99%) don't go around creating problems for people not breaking the law. If you're being a cunt and it's affecting other people then I just don't really give a shit what happens to you. I didn't publicise it, but while I'm at it fuck it. The only sadness I felt when we're talking about deaths in custody - for both blacks and non-blacks - is that the numbers are so low. 

Anyway, good luck with your campaign to ensure that police no longer have the power to arrest anyone anymore. See how that works out for you. 

Fucking people... just can't stand the fuckers. 

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Your both extremely gay, Glen and G-Off, stop being fags, and start talking about Leather, G-Off, tell Glen about your new pancake maker, and spatula, also don't forget to tell him about your brand new bondage rack, that's selfish to keep it to yourself!! BTW, my metal brethren, I love my Metal brothers, no matter how misguided it seems they are, G-Off! how could you just walk out when you had 3 movies left in your contract?? I'll never understand.

BTW, if any of my metal brethren on the other side of the pond, down under, or somewhere up above me would like to watch some American news that's not completely biased, and that's not more slanted then my eyes, all you round eyes need to watch PBS, and if you would like to check this site out, these guys break a lot of news, but you don't get it with the left and right fairy tales, it's put out by the party I claim, Libertarians, who have said absolutely nothing during this amazing hoax, just thought I'd offer, but by reading a lot of the comments, it appears everyone is enjoying their own sides, come on, give the center a try, what have you to lose? Oh! and also give gay sex with G-Off a try,

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1 hour ago, Geoff said:

Mate, you get me wrong. I am not using C's and F's to get people to agree with me. Based on a lot of commentary so far, I know what won't be happening. I'm using F's and C's because your horrendously PC views are actually succeeding in agitating me, at times, greatly. 

I shouldn't condone this type of police action? Do you remember my very honest earlier post when I said that I wished the police would spray the crowds both over here, and the US - the UK too. Anywhere... spray the crowds with bullets? Remember I said that? That's how I'd like to see this treated. So no, I do not care if a moron falls over after confronting police in the middle of a riot. You're offended by the police action? What about the stupid cunt's actions? 

Do you even understand that this guy you guys are all crying about was arrested 8 times on drug and theft charges before he found your lord and saviour jesus christ? Spent time in prison for a robbery where he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach and threatened their lives? Apparently finding Jesus turned him around, but who knows as it sounds like there were plenty of drugs in him when he was killed. 

I'm not saying I condone the whole knee on the neck way this all went down in this case, but it sure took a long time for that kind of information to be made public. 

It just really irritates me that you want to strip police of their powers so that beautiful humans like this can run free. To me it sounds like you don't want people to be arrested anymore, and if they have to be, you'd like them chauffeured to the police station in a cushioned limousine - and only if they agree to be arrested. Christ knows you'd not want any force to be used to arrest a criminal. 

Which I am not saying George Floyd was, anymore, I hope. Who knows? 

But your PC views are very offensive to me. I wonder if it ever crosses your mind what you'd like the police to do if someone attacked your family? Do you even spare a thought for victims of crime? You seem to focus a hell of a lot of attention on the poor guys who commit crimes. But what about the people who live with the repercussions of these crimes for the rest of their lives?  

And another factor that you and I may not grasp completely when we see these stories in the US - remember almost everyone there has a gun. Can you grasp for a second how unsettling that must be for police over there? Can you blame them for wanting to go home to their families at night? Again, I am not talking about this George Floyd matter here, but neither are you with all your rubbish talk. 

You may want fairies and flowers for all criminals and no police action, but again, put yourself in a situation where you and your family are under threat and ask yourself how you'd like the police to act. 

Fuck's sake... just don't understand people at all. Fact is, as much as you'd love to believe it, police for the most part (as in I'd guess well over 99%) don't go around creating problems for people not breaking the law. If you're being a cunt and it's affecting other people then I just don't really give a shit what happens to you. I didn't publicise it, but while I'm at it fuck it. The only sadness I felt when we're talking about deaths in custody - for both blacks and non-blacks - is that the numbers are so low. 

Anyway, good luck with your campaign to ensure that police no longer have the power to arrest anyone anymore. See how that works out for you. 

Fucking people... just can't stand the fuckers. 

Yeah bro, this is the face of Black Americans, and a lot of white Americans who we should probably ship off somewhere else, all the whites involved in this, are all loads that should've been swallowed, they are going up to black people, in tears, and getting down on their knees, and begging forgiveness for being white, and for being racist, don't know what they did that was racist, and have zero stake in the black community, they just know that their white, and therefore they are evil, and bad, I have an idea, if these absolutely worthless excuse for humans truly have that much white guilt, and their that pathetic, maybe they should just do the honorable thing, and kill themselves, their the sub bottom of the barrel, as far as Floyd goes, he was a piece of shit, and the story is true, he held a gun to a pregnant lady's stomach, while 3 of his homies robbed her house, and trashed it searching for dope and money, this guy was a real winner, and anyone who looks at this as something authentic, I feel deeply sorry for you, because it isn't, never was, dude was a scumbag, and so are the people behind this crooked hoax, and mark my words, the response to all of this is coming, and I cant really say I feel to sad that it is, not anymore, BTW, G-Off, your a queer, love your points, would save a lot of Bullshit if they just powered some sarin and napalm into these crowds, bullets are way to expensive, at least here.

 

I'm finished with these threads, I'm here to talk Melodic Rock, Hi-Tech AOR, standard AOR, Mexican AOR, Hard Rock, Heavy Metal, Michael Bolton and Wham! with my rock brothers, not debate this fake gay ass shit, it's now old, see ya on the non fiction boards brothers.

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1 hour ago, Geoff said:

Mate, you get me wrong. I am not using C's and F's to get people to agree with me. Based on a lot of commentary so far, I know what won't be happening. I'm using F's and C's because your horrendously PC views are actually succeeding in agitating me, at times, greatly. 

I shouldn't condone this type of police action? Do you remember my very honest earlier post when I said that I wished the police would spray the crowds both over here, and the US - the UK too. Anywhere... spray the crowds with bullets? Remember I said that? That's how I'd like to see this treated. So no, I do not care if a moron falls over after confronting police in the middle of a riot. You're offended by the police action? What about the stupid cunt's actions? 

Do you even understand that this guy you guys are all crying about was arrested 8 times on drug and theft charges before he found your lord and saviour jesus christ? Spent time in prison for a robbery where he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach and threatened their lives? Apparently finding Jesus turned him around, but who knows as it sounds like there were plenty of drugs in him when he was killed. 

I'm not saying I condone the whole knee on the neck way this all went down in this case, but it sure took a long time for that kind of information to be made public. 

It just really irritates me that you want to strip police of their powers so that beautiful humans like this can run free. To me it sounds like you don't want people to be arrested anymore, and if they have to be, you'd like them chauffeured to the police station in a cushioned limousine - and only if they agree to be arrested. Christ knows you'd not want any force to be used to arrest a criminal. 

Which I am not saying George Floyd was, anymore, I hope. Who knows? 

But your PC views are very offensive to me. I wonder if it ever crosses your mind what you'd like the police to do if someone attacked your family? Do you even spare a thought for victims of crime? You seem to focus a hell of a lot of attention on the poor guys who commit crimes. But what about the people who live with the repercussions of these crimes for the rest of their lives?  

And another factor that you and I may not grasp completely when we see these stories in the US - remember almost everyone there has a gun. Can you grasp for a second how unsettling that must be for police over there? Can you blame them for wanting to go home to their families at night? Again, I am not talking about this George Floyd matter here, but neither are you with all your rubbish talk. 

You may want fairies and flowers for all criminals and no police action, but again, put yourself in a situation where you and your family are under threat and ask yourself how you'd like the police to act. 

Fuck's sake... just don't understand people at all. Fact is, as much as you'd love to believe it, police for the most part (as in I'd guess well over 99%) don't go around creating problems for people not breaking the law. If you're being a cunt and it's affecting other people then I just don't really give a shit what happens to you. I didn't publicise it, but while I'm at it fuck it. The only sadness I felt when we're talking about deaths in custody - for both blacks and non-blacks - is that the numbers are so low. 

Anyway, good luck with your campaign to ensure that police no longer have the power to arrest anyone anymore. See how that works out for you. 

Fucking people... just can't stand the fuckers. 

no idea what any of this has got to do with what I posted.

So you want to spray bullets into peaceful protesters. Congratulations.

All I was highlighting was Trump condoning these actions. Not really what a president should be doing. 

And I struggle to see how wanting a more fair, equal, without discrimination world is being politically correct.

If people do wrong then the action taken against them, the way they are treated, and the sentence should be the same, not dependent on the colour of their skin.

Ant reasonable person should be able to grasp the concept of what is being protested for here.

 

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Hey Glen, don't you ever think maybe your not getting the whole story?? will you quickly tell me why this particular death, is being protested?? that does not seem even a little bit strange to you?? at all? you truly believe that this is all over Floyds death? please answer honestly, why are BLM not protesting the 24 homicides last week in Chicago, who all were black?? oh does it have to be a white guy killing a black guy for it to count?

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Here ya go, they are getting exactly what they want out of this, its a success, here Glen, this is absolutely all this was about, nothing less and nothing more, don't believe me, I'm not wrong man, this is what Floyd's death has garnered,

 

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34 minutes ago, Leykis101 said:

Here ya go, they are getting exactly what they want out of this, its a success, here Glen, this is absolutely all this was about, nothing less and nothing more, don't believe me, I'm not wrong man, this is what Floyd's death has garnered,

 

sorry mate don't see what this has to do you protesting for equal rights and less discrimination in the world.

That's just a random video of harassment in the street. 

 

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42 minutes ago, Leykis101 said:

Hey Glen, don't you ever think maybe your not getting the whole story?? will you quickly tell me why this particular death, is being protested?? that does not seem even a little bit strange to you?? at all? you truly believe that this is all over Floyds death? please answer honestly, why are BLM not protesting the 24 homicides last week in Chicago, who all were black?? oh does it have to be a white guy killing a black guy for it to count?

of course it doesn't.

the issue here is whether a white guy killing a black will receive the same sentence as a black guy killing a white.

Stats from the justice system prove that this STILL is not the case and this also filters through to every walk of life.

THAT is what needs to change.

The Floyd death just brings all the old issues which are NEVER addressed back to the surface.

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no idea what any of this has got to do with what I posted.

So you want to spray bullets into peaceful protesters. Congratulations.

All I was highlighting was Trump condoning these actions. Not really what a president should be doing. 

And I struggle to see how wanting a more fair, equal, without discrimination world is being politically correct.

If people do wrong then the action taken against them, the way they are treated, and the sentence should be the same, not dependent on the colour of their skin.

Ant reasonable person should be able to grasp the concept of what is being protested for here.

 

It's got everything to do with what you posted because you obviously don't like what the police do and feel far greater empathy for those that break the law. 

You haven't thought for yourself for a second on this, and just followed the moronic PC crowd.

The peaceful protesters are as fucking stupid as the rioters, so yes... no harm in getting rid of them all. Without the so-called peaceful protesters, none of this would have happened. And the fucking morons are protesting the rights of a man that pointed a gun at a pregnant woman's stomach and threatened to kill them both. I know you're glossing over that, so I thought I'd repeat it for you. 

I don't care about Trump and you seem to have an unhealthy obsession with him, as do most who oppose his views. He's not your president. You don't live in America. 

And what actions is he condoning? Police doing their jobs? Trying to rein in what this pack of brainless fucks have done? 

Mate, if you don't think you're in the far, far regions of PC, you best take a look at yourself long and hard. I hadn't picked it so much before, but I'm surprised by your 'let's just take this all on board without looking into some actual facts' attitude. I assume you are also a feminist?  

I can see the concept of what is being protested and I think it's stupid. That's my point. Any death is custody is a good one. Simple as that. The facts are there are five non-black people who die in custody for every one black person in Australia. In the US I believe it is approximately four non-black people for every black person. Black people kill far more black people than white people do. You're looking at this purely as a self-loathing caucasian and completely, wholly ignoring the other side of the discussion.

And why do you care so much about black criminals? Any criminals? You're obviously happy to let non-black ones die as you can't acknowledge their numbers anyway. But, you ever considered their victims? Ever think about how they might feel? Stop giving a fuck about people who don't give a fuck about you. 

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of course it doesn't.

the issue here is whether a white guy killing a black will receive the same sentence as a black guy killing a white.

Stats from the justice system prove that this STILL is not the case and this also filters through to every walk of life.

THAT is what needs to change.

The Floyd death just brings all the old issues which are NEVER addressed back to the surface.

I wouldn't be surprised if you have a few examples, so can you please share them just for me to have a glance over. A few examples of the same crimes being committed by black and white men for different sentences?

Again, your empathy for criminals is engaging. So beautiful to see how much you care for people who fuck up people's lives. No greater cause I can think of than criminals getting punished for their crimes. 

Again, ever cross your mind how the victims of these crimes feel? Sure doesn't seem like it matters much to you at all. 

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sorry mate don't see what this has to do you protesting for equal rights and less discrimination in the world.

That's just a random video of harassment in the street. 

 

But Glen, this is your people. These are the people that share your well informed opinion, and your shame. 

Those videos make me want to drown myself in a cup of milk. :(

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    • Bro, I fucking post this shit on here, acting all shocked about this brand new band I have discovered and my extreme confusion towards their music, then on a gut feeling I go look in a rack of shit that Ive purchased and never listened to, literally everything in this rack never got taken out of the wrap, and there sits this album, and Moonraker, never even gave them a second worth of listens, I feel like I'm about the biggest phony on here, I really am and do feel like I'm just a fucking idiot, anyways, spinning this one today, then I'll work into the next CD, this really is a good disc, kind looking like this may be the standout track on this one, I get back after Moonracker, prob tomorrow
    • I know I'm really stretching it out on this one, but the other day I caught the end of A video for a song that I absolutely thought was one of the most killer fucking songs of it's genre, I even put it in many of my AOR and rock playlists, though it was clearly Alt + Modern Rock, it never pretends to be anything else, but something about this song, even back in Junior High, set itself apart from all the other garbage of the same genre that was swallowing us in massive droves back around 93 to 95, I thought this song was not only so much different  then the rest of the genre, but it went a step beyond, and was actually a good song, if you could look past the obvious Alt and modern influences, it's a song that gets stuck in my head all the fucking time, a song shrouded in mystery, as I to this day have never figured out what the lyrics are completely about, I love this fucking song, and I got real curious how my metal and AOR brethren felt about and towards this completely fucking catchy and awesome song??? of course the song is Black Metallic. it is if not anything else, an awesome fucking borderline pop song.  
    • Yeah, know what you mean. Really hard to get these tunes out of your system... Guess that's what they call a guilty pleasure... 😉 Have you heard the follow up album "Moonraker"?
    • Nominations aren't announced so what happens is a politician who made the nomination 'leaks' that they did it. Means diddly squat. If any of us were in a position to we could nominate leykis101 and leak it.   
    • I haven't seen either, but I've heard good things 
    • Early part of Romper Stomper, the skins verses the Asians
    • We All DIE Young- Steelheart
    • Ahh, that would be a no!
    • Tesla, "Signs" Joan Jett - "I Love Rock and Roll" Disturbed - "Sounds of Silence" A personal favorite, Jeff Buckley's rendition of "Hallelujah"
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