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I had a short e-mail exchange with him years ago about something, which I can't remember, and without any provoking, he got on the downloading schpeel. Seems to me that he's become obsessed with it. If he's so mad at the world, then just give up making music all together and he won't have to dwell on it. No matter what his feelings are on the downloading, it doesn't change the fact that people sent him money, and they expect the item they paid for. Not sending their their rightly due merchandise is FRAUD. It's pretty simple.

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Looks like RSC has updated the 101 South website with basically the same sewage he's been spewing forth via the emails many of you have received:

 

http://www.101south.com/

 

What a f'n tool this guy is...

 

 

I tried a test e-mail, and the e-mail he listed is kaput... go figure

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Looks like RSC has updated the 101 South website with basically the same sewage he's been spewing forth via the emails many of you have received:

 

http://www.101south.com/

 

What a f'n tool this guy is...

 

 

I tried a test e-mail, and the e-mail he listed is kaput... go figure

 

Yeah that E-Mail hasn't been working all along. I have another E-Mail address for him but the only messages he answers are ones sent using FaceBook. Have you seen his latest comments talking about McDonalds and ice cream stores :screwy: But he doesn't need to worry when he's got 2 former CEO's of the Beatles on his side. Dick!

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I had a short e-mail exchange with him years ago about something, which I can't remember, and without any provoking, he got on the downloading schpeel. Seems to me that he's become obsessed with it. If he's so mad at the world, then just give up making music all together and he won't have to dwell on it. No matter what his feelings are on the downloading, it doesn't change the fact that people sent him money, and they expect the item they paid for. Not sending their their rightly due merchandise is FRAUD. It's pretty simple.

Yeh exactly. Surely some authority should be made aware of this?

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Damn...someone removed the download url for the latest 101 South CD.....????...fortunately I managed to use it before hand...thanks Jez.....

 

You're welcome mate. I wouldn't normally leave a link for a download, as I am dead against it usually, but in this case, I couldn't give a flying fuck, as the bloke has stolen from me. Andrew removed it from Melrock aswell, as a couple of people complained that I was out of order :crying: . Fuck 'em, fuck Roger Scott Craig and anyone who wants mp3's give me a shout, you can gladly have them from me, as I have paid for them and I can do the fuck what I want with them.

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Damn...someone removed the download url for the latest 101 South CD.....????...fortunately I managed to use it before hand...thanks Jez.....

 

You're welcome mate. I wouldn't normally leave a link for a download, as I am dead against it usually, but in this case, I couldn't give a flying fuck, as the bloke has stolen from me. Andrew removed it from Melrock aswell, as a couple of people complained that I was out of order :crying: . Fuck 'em, fuck Roger Scott Craig and anyone who wants mp3's give me a shout, you can gladly have them from me, as I have paid for them and I can do the fuck what I want with them.

 

If someone screwed me around like this... i wouldnt even want to hear their music. There's too much music out there to bother with one band like this.

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Damn...someone removed the download url for the latest 101 South CD.....????...fortunately I managed to use it before hand...thanks Jez.....

 

You're welcome mate. I wouldn't normally leave a link for a download, as I am dead against it usually, but in this case, I couldn't give a flying fuck, as the bloke has stolen from me. Andrew removed it from Melrock aswell, as a couple of people complained that I was out of order :crying: . Fuck 'em, fuck Roger Scott Craig and anyone who wants mp3's give me a shout, you can gladly have them from me, as I have paid for them and I can do the fuck what I want with them.

 

If someone screwed me around like this... i wouldnt even want to hear their music. There's too much music out there to bother with one band like this.

 

True and since I rarely play downloads , the only reason for my downloading it is that it should piss off that moron Craig....as a matter of fact everyone you know should download it .....

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The latest E-Mail - still crapping on about illegal downloading, The Beatles and the AFM...These guys really just don't get it do they!!! We paid for the CD's so stop talking to us about illegal downloading and theft!!! The fact is that Rogers communication with the fans right throughout has been almost non existent. Roger what about an apology from you for telling some of your most supportive fans that they don't matter. An apology doesn't mean much coming from someone else.

 

 

"My name is Scott Cupp and I am helping 101 South founder, Roger Scott Craig, with his SUPPORT MUSICIANS awareness campaign now being endorsed by many people connected to the Beatles and by the largest Union in the world, the AFM. Please see attached document which will be featured in January's edition of the AFM's monthly newspaper, The Overture. By bringing the most powerful musician's union in the world together with people connected to the most successful band in the history of Rock and Roll, Roger hopes to raise awareness of the very unfair nature of people thinking it is cool to use ILLEGAL file sharing sites to avoid paying the hard working musicians out there.In fact it is very uncool, in fact it is called THEFT. It is estimated that up to 95% of music is now being stolen online and Roger feels that by educating the next generation about the use of illegal sites to avoid paying for music we can start to reverse this trend. We fully understand that technologies in the future will constantly create change within the music industry, but by using some new and amazing technologies, we can soon create a much better platform than ever before for artists and songwriters whose income is dependent on people paying something for music.

 

 

The 101 South CD's you have paid for will soon be shipped out to you by us. However, delays due to shipping the CD's from Germany to California then to Missouri then back to California then back to you in Europe are taking considerable time and this explains the delays but the CD's will ship very soon and they will then be personally autographed by both Roger and Gregory Lynn Hall, the vocalist with 101 South. We also intend adding something special to this package in order for us to say thank you to you for being 101 South fans..

 

 

In the event that you want a full refund, this will be sent out to you immediately and please contact me as I am handling the reimbursements for those of you who no longer want to wait for the new 101 South CD's. I will be using paypal to compensate you in full and Roger has no intentions of ripping anybody off. Please be aware that Roger will be making no money whatsoever from these transactions and has provided you with a brand new 101 South CD for which he will receive nothing. In other words Roger has worked for free in order to hopefully provide you with music we hope you will enjoy. Because 95% of music is stolen, the budgets for independent artists have declined to the point where it is almost impossible to make any money from this new music. The costs of the musicians alone on this new 101 South Album exceeded the advance Roger received from the distributor. The Distributor also blames illegal downloading of music as the main reason why budgets offered to artists are now 1/10th what they used to be in the old days when most people did not mind paying for quality music. Apart from the costs of individual musicians, Roger also had to pay engineering costs, mastering costs, electrical utility bills, equipment repair and rental costs as well as all the costs involved with the artwork and graphic design work for this new album. These costs were paid by Roger but sadly he doubts whether he will see any monies in the future to compensate him for these expenses.

 

 

Please contact me immediately letting us know if you do not mind waiting another week or two in order to receive your package. We intend to respond immediately to your request should you want an immediate refund. Please ask your friends not to steal music using illegal file sharing sites but rather support musicians like Roger by asking your friends not to BURN multiple copies for their friends and families. If you want to contact Roger personally, please use this email address (roger@101south.com).

 

 

Best wishes and a very Merry Christmas to all you 101 South fans.

Scott Cupp"

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I haven't recieved any reply to my last few emails Justin, so thanx for this. As you say, this is a load of old shite for the people who have actually paid their money for the CD's and I really don't need a lecture on the whole downloading thing as I have said before. I will be interested to see if anything does actualy happen with the CD's/ refunds. At the moment a lot of talk and no action whatsoever. Would anything have actually been done for the 'Magnificent' 88 if we hadn't said anything in the first place and now that Andrew has made a big deal on the melrock site? I think I know the answer to that one don't you.

 

Good Xmas mate and keep me posted of any news. I shall of course do likewise. :drink:

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Damn...someone removed the download url for the latest 101 South CD.....????...fortunately I managed to use it before hand...thanks Jez.....

 

You're welcome mate. I wouldn't normally leave a link for a download, as I am dead against it usually, but in this case, I couldn't give a flying fuck, as the bloke has stolen from me. Andrew removed it from Melrock aswell, as a couple of people complained that I was out of order :crying: . Fuck 'em, fuck Roger Scott Craig and anyone who wants mp3's give me a shout, you can gladly have them from me, as I have paid for them and I can do the fuck what I want with them.

 

If someone screwed me around like this... i wouldnt even want to hear their music. There's too much music out there to bother with one band like this.

 

True and since I rarely play downloads , the only reason for my downloading it is that it should piss off that moron Craig....as a matter of fact everyone you know should download it .....

Now thats not a bad idea haha.

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Whoa, this reads kinda like a book.....a bad book......with pages of (false) promises, ridiculous delay's, pathetic, dementia-like ramblings of riddin' the world (or at least most of it) of illegal downloads, & also some pages outta two ass clowns manuals....the upper case/yellin' of Mr. (PLEASE REPLY NOW) & another, who shall remain nameless (promises of auto'd ltd editions, great deals on prices.....the first to order will get.....worse than nothin'!?!?)....sounds a lil too familiar. :angry:

 

I only have one release that has this yahoo on it.....but I will definitely not buy anything that features him, from any site. I will not support this clown.....period! Especially realizin' how he's treatin' many people who've supported him for some time....& that are well respected members of HH &/or MelRock! He's now at the top of the "F'N TWIT, NO MAKE THAT TWAT OF THE YEAR" list! Him & Lars would make quite a couple......:blink:

 

 

Best of luck resolvin' this sticky situation! :drink:

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WOW!

 

With this jerks attitude / business practise it would seem downloading is the way forward if you want to avoid sharks. I think he's contributing directly to the cause he seems so uptight about. Who on earth are these Beatles dudes anyway, just because someone boasts a connection with the Beatles doesn't ensure any integrity....what are they gonna do close down all the filesharing servers on the planet?

 

Like the majority I never download unless an album is deleted or it's a band sponsored one.....but this guy makes me want to rip him off right now (only I think Harlan Cage sucked big time and the Fortune album is pretty average in my book ...and yes I bought the CD's in each case ......101 South I never bothered with because of past performance and I'm not gonna clog up my bandwidth with junk I don't want!)

 

Hope you all get your refunds...this sucks!

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What an asshole.

Never did like the Harlan Cage stuff and the Fortune album has always been vastly over rated imo, so i have never bothered with this 101 south or whatever the heck they're called.

This guy needs to seriously get off the drink or stop smoking whatever the hell he smokes or injects into his body.

What a complete loser.

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Does he seriously think that the 1 in 20 quote applies to bands like Harlan Cage and 101 South? Frankly I own a 101 South album (which I paid for) and there's no way I'd bother copying it or uploading it as I don't know anyone else who'd want it! If he does genuinely believe he has 20 times more fans than his record sales suggest then he ought to be thankful there are that many people listening to his music, whether they paid for it or not. That's how you have to approach the music industry these days as the world has changed and unless you move into writing/production you won't make money.

 

I wish him luck with his crusade and hope it distracts him from making any more 101 South/Harlan Cage albums. Also hope the real fans get their refunds....

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Latest update from Andrew At Melodicrock.com

 

 

Roger Scott Craig sent me this update regarding 101 South orders in limbo - "REFUNDS ARE BEING TAKEN CARE OF BY SCOTT CUPP TODAY. AND EMAILS WENT OUT TO EVERYBODY ON OUR DATABASE WHICH SCOTT IS NOW IN CHARGE OF. THANKS."

If you are one of the people awaiting refunds, please keep me posted on this.

 

 

 

Interesting. I for one didn't get an email from Scott Cupp, but I think Justin did. I await with baited breath, but not holding it too much.

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Latest update from Andrew At Melodicrock.com

 

 

Roger Scott Craig sent me this update regarding 101 South orders in limbo - "REFUNDS ARE BEING TAKEN CARE OF BY SCOTT CUPP TODAY. AND EMAILS WENT OUT TO EVERYBODY ON OUR DATABASE WHICH SCOTT IS NOW IN CHARGE OF. THANKS."

If you are one of the people awaiting refunds, please keep me posted on this.

 

 

 

Interesting. I for one didn't get an email from Scott Cupp, but I think Justin did. I await with baited breath, but not holding it too much.

Can we sign him up for gay porn yet?

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Latest update from Andrew At Melodicrock.com

 

 

Roger Scott Craig sent me this update regarding 101 South orders in limbo - "REFUNDS ARE BEING TAKEN CARE OF BY SCOTT CUPP TODAY. AND EMAILS WENT OUT TO EVERYBODY ON OUR DATABASE WHICH SCOTT IS NOW IN CHARGE OF. THANKS."

If you are one of the people awaiting refunds, please keep me posted on this.

 

 

 

Interesting. I for one didn't get an email from Scott Cupp, but I think Justin did. I await with baited breath, but not holding it too much.

 

Yeah I got an E-Mail from him - whoever he is??? He basically said CD's would arrive in 1-2 weeks or you can get a refund. I elected to wait for the CD's (what's another week or two on top of 5 months) but if they don't arrive in the next week or so I'll be pretty angry!!! More so than I am now! Has anyone got a refund that you know of?

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i received the email from Scott Cup (i think it was him) offering a refund or the CDs. I chose to wait too, but i really think that the CDs don't exist. (i'm talking about the reissues of the first 2 albums). Besides, he gave a new excuse for this situation: we don't have the CDs because it took them time to get from Europe to US and then back to Europe (??!!). I would really like to have the CDs but i don't think that will ever happen and i'm thinking of asking a refund. What will the rest of you guys do?

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i received the email from Scott Cup (i think it was him) offering a refund or the CDs. I chose to wait too, but i really think that the CDs don't exist. (i'm talking about the reissues of the first 2 albums). Besides, he gave a new excuse for this situation: we don't have the CDs because it took them time to get from Europe to US and then back to Europe (??!!). I would really like to have the CDs but i don't think that will ever happen and i'm thinking of asking a refund. What will the rest of you guys do?

 

Yeah I'm going to wait another week or so and hope the CD's arrive. But I can tell you that I don't intend to give up without fighting.

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i received the email from Scott Cup (i think it was him) offering a refund or the CDs. I chose to wait too, but i really think that the CDs don't exist. (i'm talking about the reissues of the first 2 albums). Besides, he gave a new excuse for this situation: we don't have the CDs because it took them time to get from Europe to US and then back to Europe (??!!). I would really like to have the CDs but i don't think that will ever happen and i'm thinking of asking a refund. What will the rest of you guys do?

 

Yeah I'm going to wait another week or so and hope the CD's arrive. But I can tell you that I don't intend to give up without fighting.

 

Full refund for me, but as I said, I have a sneaking suspicion I'm not going to get one. I have seen the new CD for less than £4 elsewhere, so may buy a cheap second hand copy in the future.

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i finally asked for a refund. My thoughts are that if i wait for the cds and even if he sends them, some of my $40 will be profit for him. I don't want him to make a single buck off my money, so i'm taking them back. Besides, i'm pretty sure that his new cds, if they ever reach the stores, will be available for less pretty soon. So i'm just giving him the finger.

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