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And also, I forgot to address...most of mine had that wavy back tray insert too. Some other indie presses have this, which is a result of a slightly bigger than normal back insert, not from water damage. I'm 99.9% of this too.

They're all marked as promos....take it from me, I have had like 8 different originals of this thing and I noticed it over the years too (it stating it was a promo etc.). The guys prob did this since it was self financed and figured it was a taste of what they could do or demonstrate as a band to land a deal. It's a great CD, as good as anything else (I actually love it myself), but in reality all indies are promos or self-financed in hopes of kicksarting something, stirring up some interest. I think it was just their angle and did this on purpose with their pressing job. Maybe it was a management call who knows, but if they're not all marked as promos, 90% or more are that way. James I'd be curious to see if you might have overlooked this, cuz as stated yours may be rarer than the rest of ours. With all the ones I've seen and the others' spoken for here we have about 13 or so originals and yours is the only saying yours in no way says promo anywhere.

Damn, yeah thx guys, my thoughts exactly....I pride myself in knowing (to an unhealthy level) lesser known melodic rock and AOR stuff, but I got nuthin on this one. This unknown track/band have to be European is my guess, just sounds like a non-US type of AOR to these ears. I didn't know this was unsolved for that long whiplash....reminds me of another long long un-ID'd track from a message board that specializes in 80's pop and new wave it's a fun place to check out too, this goes back to 2000 and it's still unsolved, these guys have tried everything to get someone to ID it I gotta commend such persistence just wish I could help http://nwoutpost.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=324&whichpage=1 Here's the actual youtube we made to try and solve this one just in case anyone may wanna hear it to take a stab at it.

Was on youtube and saw this video of someone saying they needed help on Id'ing it. I figured I'd be able to help, then I listened to it....it's a nice AOR track, but even though it may sound familiar (dude's voice or sumthin) I dont know who it is either. Maybe someone here might recognize it, check it out below:

Wow Keith, love the review. I totally agree with ya man....I can relate as an old Ratt fan as well, we have a lot of shared sentiments although I liked Reach (Detonator was hanging on), then by the 90's they became a train wreck in terms of new material to say the least. When I first heard of them doing something new I thought to myself "Great, they reunite to release another disappointing affair (like many others) to further bog down their classic catalog".....and I can say I'm so glad I was wrong, this thing measures up to anything Ratt has ever done during their heyday. This new one rawks, anybody whose ever liked any Ratt song or album should check this. They sound fresh while maintaining their true style that made us all love them in the first place. It's funny, some of the lyrics coined by Pearcy on this one sound as if he's some testosterone driven 25 yr old like he was in '84 (Lost Weekend and some others), while some of the others have real lyrical depth while staying fun, rocking, and still kinda sleazy. It comes off rather well, totally works for them at this point in their career. Wish other greats of yesterday would take note. Check it out, spin it a few times as it gets a good first impression and is even a grower from there (bordering onto a great release, almost there with Invasion, Dance, or Out of....just barely short of those brilliants of a band in their prime). As Keith said, they're in great musical shape here, to even have them being murmured to a day when they were a worldwide major label signed act is a feat in itself, cuz as you might guess they have a little bit (a lot) less riding on them now (in terms of investment and record company resource), yet they cut something on par with those huge releases, almost on their own cuz they simply wanted to. Love seeing this as a fan. RATT is BACK....Rockin All The Time (in my best 1986 voice)!! lol...

"Infestation" f**kin rawks. PERIOD.

Yeah man, just wrote this thread too....this thing kicks ass imho, gotta reward guys like this for cutting a record like this in 2010. Very true to form without sounding too dated in my opinion I'm giving it a 9 out of 10 (I first gave it maybe an 8 and its growing on me big time), and just for the record I give all of their post-Detonator output 6's or below, im not one who just rates a band's material good cuz i loved their previous albums. I'm a strict grader....but this deserves any Ratt fans' attention, no lie. Here's my post as I mentioned, for more of a review: http://heavyharmonies.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=24378

Okay so I'm not sure if there's another topic discussion on this but damn, this newest album is great. This is perhaps the best comeback from the glory bands I can think of? Believe me, I was about to write them off being a fan of Ratt's in the 80's, not cutting anything worth a damn since Detonator....in fact I think I like the newest more than Detonator..!? It's right there with Dancing and Reach for me. My fav is Invasion, its just short of that genious, but I absolutely love everything up until Detonator and as I mentioned I may like this more than Detonator, and think it's comparable to a tad updated version of "Dancing" which are huge words coming from me.... Pearcy sounds fresh, songwriting is there (they actually grow on ya too, good sign of solid material), and the riffing is there. Good guitar tone for once, crunch like the old days. Dont take my word for it? Check it out, the whole album being streamed pre-release....only for a few days so I hear http://www.therattpack.com/board_posts/listen-to-infestation-here

How have ya not heard Dokken, or much of them? You're missing out man....I thought we all had to pay our Dokken dues when growing up lol jk. Both bands are great, but yeah I wouldn't exactly equate Mr Scary's sound with Dokken's per se, but I'd say most people who enjoy crunchy melodic rock would like both even though they each got their unique styles within the genre

That's really crappy....why don't you seek legal action, report him. How did you go about paying him?

Staryder, not to get on a tangent, but who does Lust Puppy sound like? What's the CD called, year? Don't tell me they sound like Testament or sumthin, love that kinda thrash.........

Good question. As far as I know, you can't find out.....goes to show, why would ebay do this? The answer is so people cannot have as good of an idea on shill bidders. Like you say, if people get away with hiking prices, this makes ebay higher commissions. I'm afraid it's a lost cause. Ebay won't do sh*t about it either.

I've had the music addiction go all the way back from my when I lived at home and my mom (back when) to losing a few girlfriends over it (and other addictions), and the battle continues. I have found women to be a pretty expensive hobby (whether it's time, headaches/drama, or of course money), and I am such an independent person that I find myself like melodicrockoz.....I won't budge on my few passions in life, and thats just the way it is. I'm otherwise a mellow person, but when women try and change me it makes me get hostile too. I usually end up saying to myself, I'll change to whatever you want if you change to whatever I want which would be a lingerie-wearing inviting her hot friends to join vixen ha. Naturally I specialize in short term relationships. But as far as music and collecting goes, thats long term