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You keep living in the matrix Geoff but there are very few bands who have 4 albums as good as those by X Japan.

As long as everyone in my matrix is speaking English, I am more than happy to stay here.

 

Honestly, I can't express to you how pointless I find non-English speaking music. Well, I have tried to explain it and you can try to find those threads if you wish to read it again. It just view it as completely futile and a total waste of time.

 

Like I said above, I did listen to these guys when I had more time on my hands, and probably wasn't as angry and passionate about foreign vocals as I am now, but even then, I just didn't think the band was very good at all anyway.

I get it Geoff, I really do but in the early-mid 90s something had to be done as there was just so little new music worth listening to. Back then I wouldn't listen to a band if the singer had an accent...hell even an Aussie accent used to put me off!!

I guess my musical survival kicked in. Knowing that I wasn't going to get what I was accustomed to or needed and let me see and hear past my own BS! So glad it did, I still can't stomach what was on the radio then. Thanks to the musical gods for Japan and Europe!

 

 

And who knows, if I was in that situation I may have turned to a 3rd or 4th rate band for musical pleasure too in the mid-90's... but in the scheme of things, that was a really small period. And the music before and after that period hasn't been deleted. It's all still here, and all still being released as we speak.

 

So why one would hold onto a "better than nothing" band that filled in a gap, over excellent music before and after that tiny period is beyond me. Just forget the mid-90's now and enjoy the good music before and after it.

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Your ears get tuned to different things. My tuned into more metal and opened up to non-English. By the sounds of things you got into the more modern rock? From these ears and the comment about that period being small I think you let your ears get adjusted to something else as well.

Would love to see your best of 1990-1999 top 40 albums and I bet we would have a massive crossover of albums, then separate and then start to come back together towards the end of the decade.

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Your ears get tuned to different things. My tuned into more metal and opened up to non-English. By the sounds of things you got into the more modern rock? From these ears and the comment about that period being small I think you let your ears get adjusted to something else as well.

Would love to see your best of 1990-1999 top 40 albums and I bet we would have a massive crossover of albums, then separate and then start to come back together towards the end of the decade.

 

Haha, sorry to disappoint on many levels, mate.

 

I didn't get into modern rock until about 2000, completely based on SR-71 and Marvelous 3 alone. The only modern rock I have from the mid-90's would be Goo Goo Dolls, Fuel and Matchbox 20... few enough bands to list on one hand - and more importantly, nothing good.

 

I don't know your vintage, but I'm 36 and was 16 years old in 1995. That is when I got into melodic rock. I guess it was probably because the stuff on the radio was so awful, but whilst you had lived with this style of music for decade and needed an alternative whilst it disappeared from the spotlight, this was my alternative to the radio. The mid 90's is when I formed the majority and basis of my melodic rock collection.

 

As for my top 40 albums from that period, sorry to disappoint again mate, not even a hint of a crossover of any sorts. My lists from 1995 to 1999 would feature all of the below albums, for a start (and that's just skirting across the surface);

 

Attraction - Get Up N' Shake
Amaze Me - Wonderland
Amaze Me - Amaze Me
Stun Leer - Once
Arti Tisi - Arti Tisi
Danger Danger - Four The Hard Way
Steelhouse Lane - Metallic Blue
Bon Jovi - These Days
Amaze Me - Dream On
Pretty Boy Floyd - Porn Stars
Casanova - Heroes
Jaded Heart - IV
Steelhouse Lane - Slaves Of The New World
Fiore - Today Till Tomorrow
Frontline - Heroes
CITA - Heat Of Emotion
Emerald Rain - Broken Saviours
TNT - Transistor
Emerald Rain - Age Of Innocence
Gunshy - Mayday
Fiore - Body Electric
Big Mouth - Hands Of Time
Loud & Clear - Loud & Clear
Pink Cream 69 - Electrified
Harem Scarem - Believe
Big Bad Wolf - Big Bad Wolf
Newman - One Step Closer
Savannah - Savannah
Kick - Consider This…
Tower City - Little Bit Of Fire
Ransom - Trouble In Paradise
Hotwire - Hotwire
Monarch - Monarch
The Storm - Eye Of The Storm
Metropolis - The Power Of Night
Charade - Charade
Michael Morales - That's The Way
Crystal Ball - In The Beginning…
Hotwire - Face Another Day
Harem Scarem - B-Side Collection
Pretty Maids - Spooked
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Your ears get tuned to different things. My tuned into more metal and opened up to non-English. By the sounds of things you got into the more modern rock? From these ears and the comment about that period being small I think you let your ears get adjusted to something else as well.

Would love to see your best of 1990-1999 top 40 albums and I bet we would have a massive crossover of albums, then separate and then start to come back together towards the end of the decade.

 

Haha, sorry to disappoint on many levels, mate.

 

I didn't get into modern rock until about 2000, completely based on SR-71 and Marvelous 3 alone. The only modern rock I have from the mid-90's would be Goo Goo Dolls, Fuel and Matchbox 20... few enough bands to list on one hand - and more importantly, nothing good.

 

I don't know your vintage, but I'm 36 and was 16 years old in 1995. That is when I got into melodic rock. I guess it was probably because the stuff on the radio was so awful, but whilst you had lived with this style of music for decade and needed an alternative whilst it disappeared from the spotlight, this was my alternative to the radio. The mid 90's is when I formed the majority and basis of my melodic rock collection.

 

As for my top 40 albums from that period, sorry to disappoint again mate, not even a hint of a crossover of any sorts. My lists from 1995 to 1999 would feature all of the below albums, for a start (and that's just skirting across the surface);

 

Attraction - Get Up N' Shake
Amaze Me - Wonderland
Amaze Me - Amaze Me
Stun Leer - Once
Arti Tisi - Arti Tisi
Danger Danger - Four The Hard Way
Steelhouse Lane - Metallic Blue
Bon Jovi - These Days
Amaze Me - Dream On
Pretty Boy Floyd - Porn Stars
Casanova - Heroes
Jaded Heart - IV
Steelhouse Lane - Slaves Of The New World
Fiore - Today Till Tomorrow
Frontline - Heroes
CITA - Heat Of Emotion
Emerald Rain - Broken Saviours
TNT - Transistor
Emerald Rain - Age Of Innocence
Gunshy - Mayday
Fiore - Body Electric
Big Mouth - Hands Of Time
Loud & Clear - Loud & Clear
Pink Cream 69 - Electrified
Harem Scarem - Believe
Big Bad Wolf - Big Bad Wolf
Newman - One Step Closer
Savannah - Savannah
Kick - Consider This…
Tower City - Little Bit Of Fire
Ransom - Trouble In Paradise
Hotwire - Hotwire
Monarch - Monarch
The Storm - Eye Of The Storm
Metropolis - The Power Of Night
Charade - Charade
Michael Morales - That's The Way
Crystal Ball - In The Beginning…
Hotwire - Face Another Day
Harem Scarem - B-Side Collection
Pretty Maids - Spooked

 

 

Plenty of MTM Music releases on that list. They did have lot of great titles in the 90's.

What a great label it was...

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Yeah, MTM was a great label. At the time I remember thinking they were so much better than the other labels, in terms of bands they had. And then they were no more. :(

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Your ears get tuned to different things. My tuned into more metal and opened up to non-English. By the sounds of things you got into the more modern rock? From these ears and the comment about that period being small I think you let your ears get adjusted to something else as well.

Would love to see your best of 1990-1999 top 40 albums and I bet we would have a massive crossover of albums, then separate and then start to come back together towards the end of the decade.

Haha, sorry to disappoint on many levels, mate.

 

I didn't get into modern rock until about 2000, completely based on SR-71 and Marvelous 3 alone. The only modern rock I have from the mid-90's would be Goo Goo Dolls, Fuel and Matchbox 20... few enough bands to list on one hand - and more importantly, nothing good.

 

I don't know your vintage, but I'm 36 and was 16 years old in 1995. That is when I got into melodic rock. I guess it was probably because the stuff on the radio was so awful, but whilst you had lived with this style of music for decade and needed an alternative whilst it disappeared from the spotlight, this was my alternative to the radio. The mid 90's is when I formed the majority and basis of my melodic rock collection.

 

As for my top 40 albums from that period, sorry to disappoint again mate, not even a hint of a crossover of any sorts. My lists from 1995 to 1999 would feature all of the below albums, for a start (and that's just skirting across the surface);

 

Attraction - Get Up N' Shake

Amaze Me - Wonderland

Amaze Me - Amaze Me

Stun Leer - Once

Arti Tisi - Arti Tisi

Danger Danger - Four The Hard Way

Steelhouse Lane - Metallic Blue

Bon Jovi - These Days

Amaze Me - Dream On

Pretty Boy Floyd - Porn Stars

Casanova - Heroes

Jaded Heart - IV

Steelhouse Lane - Slaves Of The New World

Fiore - Today Till Tomorrow

Frontline - Heroes

CITA - Heat Of Emotion

Emerald Rain - Broken Saviours

TNT - Transistor

Emerald Rain - Age Of Innocence

Gunshy - Mayday

Fiore - Body Electric

Big Mouth - Hands Of Time

Loud & Clear - Loud & Clear

Pink Cream 69 - Electrified

Harem Scarem - Believe

Big Bad Wolf - Big Bad Wolf

Newman - One Step Closer

Savannah - Savannah

Kick - Consider This

Tower City - Little Bit Of Fire

Ransom - Trouble In Paradise

Hotwire - Hotwire

Monarch - Monarch

The Storm - Eye Of The Storm

Metropolis - The Power Of Night

Charade - Charade

Michael Morales - That's The Way

Crystal Ball - In The Beginning

Hotwire - Face Another Day

Harem Scarem - B-Side Collection

Pretty Maids - Spooked

Ok, I get it now. I'm 43 and started buying cassettes and albums in 1987 and then quickly onto CDs. I remember my first few purchases were Whitesnake, Bon Jovi, Cinderella etc. I then quickly followed by grabbing back catalogue items and moving into less mainstream artists like Lillian Axe etc.

 

So I think the difference essentially is timing. I got into melodic rock when it was on the radio and TV everywhere and also helped along by my bro who did the same thing a few years earlier with quiet riot, motley, iron maiden.

 

If I had got into the scene mid-90s I would have been ecstatic with the releases u listed. Truth is most of them, and a lot on MTM were good, not great, compared to what I had lived with and was naturally comparing to. I like most of those albums but see very few great albums in that list.

 

It was natural that I went for something different because I was constantly disappointed and spending a lot of money being so.

 

So just as you say why bother listening to something sang in another language even if the music is great when you can just out something else on. I say why put on an album that is trying really hard to sound like countless albums I own but with inferior songs, crap productions etc.

 

I'm not pooing on the mid-late 90s it's just my palate was developed on the best and the best is hard to live up to once an era ends. So you have to move onto something else if you want new music.

 

I also don't underestimate that moment that changes your life. For me Still of the Night was and still is the pinnacle of the ultimate rock song. Had I been 20yrs older at the time I may have thought it a crap rip of Kashmir.

 

So what did you hear in '95 that made you seek out more music?

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Your ears get tuned to different things. My tuned into more metal and opened up to non-English. By the sounds of things you got into the more modern rock? From these ears and the comment about that period being small I think you let your ears get adjusted to something else as well.

Would love to see your best of 1990-1999 top 40 albums and I bet we would have a massive crossover of albums, then separate and then start to come back together towards the end of the decade.

Haha, sorry to disappoint on many levels, mate.

 

I didn't get into modern rock until about 2000, completely based on SR-71 and Marvelous 3 alone. The only modern rock I have from the mid-90's would be Goo Goo Dolls, Fuel and Matchbox 20... few enough bands to list on one hand - and more importantly, nothing good.

 

I don't know your vintage, but I'm 36 and was 16 years old in 1995. That is when I got into melodic rock. I guess it was probably because the stuff on the radio was so awful, but whilst you had lived with this style of music for decade and needed an alternative whilst it disappeared from the spotlight, this was my alternative to the radio. The mid 90's is when I formed the majority and basis of my melodic rock collection.

 

As for my top 40 albums from that period, sorry to disappoint again mate, not even a hint of a crossover of any sorts. My lists from 1995 to 1999 would feature all of the below albums, for a start (and that's just skirting across the surface);

 

Attraction - Get Up N' Shake

Amaze Me - Wonderland

Amaze Me - Amaze Me

Stun Leer - Once

Arti Tisi - Arti Tisi

Danger Danger - Four The Hard Way

Steelhouse Lane - Metallic Blue

Bon Jovi - These Days

Amaze Me - Dream On

Pretty Boy Floyd - Porn Stars

Casanova - Heroes

Jaded Heart - IV

Steelhouse Lane - Slaves Of The New World

Fiore - Today Till Tomorrow

Frontline - Heroes

CITA - Heat Of Emotion

Emerald Rain - Broken Saviours

TNT - Transistor

Emerald Rain - Age Of Innocence

Gunshy - Mayday

Fiore - Body Electric

Big Mouth - Hands Of Time

Loud & Clear - Loud & Clear

Pink Cream 69 - Electrified

Harem Scarem - Believe

Big Bad Wolf - Big Bad Wolf

Newman - One Step Closer

Savannah - Savannah

Kick - Consider This

Tower City - Little Bit Of Fire

Ransom - Trouble In Paradise

Hotwire - Hotwire

Monarch - Monarch

The Storm - Eye Of The Storm

Metropolis - The Power Of Night

Charade - Charade

Michael Morales - That's The Way

Crystal Ball - In The Beginning

Hotwire - Face Another Day

Harem Scarem - B-Side Collection

Pretty Maids - Spooked

So just as you say why bother listening to something sang in another language even if the music is great when you can just out something else on. I say why put on an album that is trying really hard to sound like countless albums I own but with inferior songs, crap productions etc.

 

I'm not pooing on the mid-late 90s it's just my palate was developed on the best and the best is hard to live up to once an era ends. So you have to move onto something else if you want new music.

 

So what did you hear in '95 that made you seek out more music?

 

Wowser, I'd just have to disagree and say I don't think the stuff I listed here is inferior to the 80's stuff, in any way shape or form. If it was, I'd agree with you 100% and wouldn't bother with it. Amaze Me, Stun Leer, Arti Tisi, early Jaded Heart, Pretty Maids, Frontline, early Emerald Rain, Danger Danger, Steelhouse Lane... jeezus wept mate, you're talking A-Grade stuff here, imo.

 

Boring as it is, my story in 1995 all began with Bon Jovi... and I have my brother to thank for that. My brothers and I grew up on stuff like 1927, Roxus (!!), Belinda Carlisle, Roxette, Icehouse, Bryan Adams... they were our favourites, but we were young and just listened to RAGE and what was in the charts at the time. Didn't actively pursue music. So it was about 1995 when I first heard Bon Jovi via my brother and thought, I really like that and I want to hear more. So I got all Bon Jovi's stuff, then Poison... and it all just snowballed from there onwards.

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Your ears get tuned to different things. My tuned into more metal and opened up to non-English. By the sounds of things you got into the more modern rock? From these ears and the comment about that period being small I think you let your ears get adjusted to something else as well.

Would love to see your best of 1990-1999 top 40 albums and I bet we would have a massive crossover of albums, then separate and then start to come back together towards the end of the decade.

Haha, sorry to disappoint on many levels, mate.

 

I didn't get into modern rock until about 2000, completely based on SR-71 and Marvelous 3 alone. The only modern rock I have from the mid-90's would be Goo Goo Dolls, Fuel and Matchbox 20... few enough bands to list on one hand - and more importantly, nothing good.

 

I don't know your vintage, but I'm 36 and was 16 years old in 1995. That is when I got into melodic rock. I guess it was probably because the stuff on the radio was so awful, but whilst you had lived with this style of music for decade and needed an alternative whilst it disappeared from the spotlight, this was my alternative to the radio. The mid 90's is when I formed the majority and basis of my melodic rock collection.

 

As for my top 40 albums from that period, sorry to disappoint again mate, not even a hint of a crossover of any sorts. My lists from 1995 to 1999 would feature all of the below albums, for a start (and that's just skirting across the surface);

 

Attraction - Get Up N' Shake

Amaze Me - Wonderland

Amaze Me - Amaze Me

Stun Leer - Once

Arti Tisi - Arti Tisi

Danger Danger - Four The Hard Way

Steelhouse Lane - Metallic Blue

Bon Jovi - These Days

Amaze Me - Dream On

Pretty Boy Floyd - Porn Stars

Casanova - Heroes

Jaded Heart - IV

Steelhouse Lane - Slaves Of The New World

Fiore - Today Till Tomorrow

Frontline - Heroes

CITA - Heat Of Emotion

Emerald Rain - Broken Saviours

TNT - Transistor

Emerald Rain - Age Of Innocence

Gunshy - Mayday

Fiore - Body Electric

Big Mouth - Hands Of Time

Loud & Clear - Loud & Clear

Pink Cream 69 - Electrified

Harem Scarem - Believe

Big Bad Wolf - Big Bad Wolf

Newman - One Step Closer

Savannah - Savannah

Kick - Consider This

Tower City - Little Bit Of Fire

Ransom - Trouble In Paradise

Hotwire - Hotwire

Monarch - Monarch

The Storm - Eye Of The Storm

Metropolis - The Power Of Night

Charade - Charade

Michael Morales - That's The Way

Crystal Ball - In The Beginning

Hotwire - Face Another Day

Harem Scarem - B-Side Collection

Pretty Maids - Spooked

So just as you say why bother listening to something sang in another language even if the music is great when you can just out something else on. I say why put on an album that is trying really hard to sound like countless albums I own but with inferior songs, crap productions etc.

 

I'm not pooing on the mid-late 90s it's just my palate was developed on the best and the best is hard to live up to once an era ends. So you have to move onto something else if you want new music.

 

So what did you hear in '95 that made you seek out more music?

 

Wowser, I'd just have to disagree and say I don't think the stuff I listed here is inferior to the 80's stuff, in any way shape or form. If it was, I'd agree with you 100% and wouldn't bother with it. Amaze Me, Stun Leer, Arti Tisi, early Jaded Heart, Pretty Maids, Frontline, early Emerald Rain, Danger Danger, Steelhouse Lane... jeezus wept mate, you're talking A-Grade stuff here, imo.

 

Boring as it is, my story in 1995 all began with Bon Jovi... and I have my brother to thank for that. My brothers and I grew up on stuff like 1927, Roxus (!!), Belinda Carlisle, Roxette, Icehouse, Bryan Adams... they were our favourites, but we were young and just listened to RAGE and what was in the charts at the time. Didn't actively pursue music. So it was about 1995 when I first heard Bon Jovi via my brother and thought, I really like that and I want to hear more. So I got all Bon Jovi's stuff, then Poison... and it all just snowballed from there onwards.

 

Jeezus wept... love it!

 

I won't go into dissecting your list as I agree some very cool albums. A quick opinion on some and why they aren't great IMO:

- Harem Scarem - everything after the debut was a disappointment plain and simple. They've consistently had a few great songs on each release but never got close to the debut. So if you grabbed the debut when it was released when I did, lived with it for a couple of years and then picked everything else up as it was released...well.... disappointment.

- Emerald Rain, Amaze Me, Steelhouse Lane etc. - all very good. Just not as good as the stuff below.

- The Storm, Ransom etc. - these types of albums I just don't feel like listening to often as good as they are. Maybe too light for me?

 

I guess growing up with 1927, Roxus (!!), Belinda Carlisle, Roxette, Icehouse, Bryan Adams would mean you lean to much lighter material than me. I can only do very early Bryan Adams (Summer, Kids Wanna Rock) and Roxus.... the others unfortunately make my stomach turn. Great that even so we can have a cross over like we do and kudos for you for getting into it at the time you did!

 

There is some stuff on your list that I'm going to check out as I never had them in the day or now like Attraction, Arti Tisi & Gunshy.

 

Out of interest here's a quick lot of albums I rated highlight from 95-99. It pretty much boils down to half hard rock and half metal:

 

Zeno – Zenology

Bon Jovi – These Days

Valentine – Valentine

Phantom’s Opera – Phantom’s Opera

CITA – Relapse of Reason & Heat of Emotion

Sykes – Out Of My Tree & Loveland

TSO – Xmas Eve & Other Stories

House of Shakira – Lint

Danger Danger – Four The Hard Way

Westworld - Westworld

Von Groove – Chameleon

Pink Cream 69 - Electrified

Jaded Heart – IV

Shakra – Moving Force

Gotthard – Open

Valentine & Valensia – V

Damned Nation – Road of Desire

WASP – Still Not Black Enough

Savatage – Dead Winter Dead & Wake of Magellan

Radakka – Malice & Tranquility & Requiem For The Innocent

Royal Hunt – Moving Target, Paradox & Fear

Angra – Holy Land & Fireworks

Stratovarius – Visions

Eternity X – The Edge

Labyrinth – Return To Heaven Denied

Nightwish – Oceanborn

Balance of Power – Book of Secrets

The Sygnet – Children of the Future

Sonata Arctica - Ecliptica

Dream Theater – Scenes From A Memory

Edguy – Theatre of Salvation

Avalanch – Llanta De Un Heroe

Angel Dust – Bleed

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Your ears get tuned to different things. My tuned into more metal and opened up to non-English. By the sounds of things you got into the more modern rock? From these ears and the comment about that period being small I think you let your ears get adjusted to something else as well.

Would love to see your best of 1990-1999 top 40 albums and I bet we would have a massive crossover of albums, then separate and then start to come back together towards the end of the decade.

Haha, sorry to disappoint on many levels, mate.

 

I didn't get into modern rock until about 2000, completely based on SR-71 and Marvelous 3 alone. The only modern rock I have from the mid-90's would be Goo Goo Dolls, Fuel and Matchbox 20... few enough bands to list on one hand - and more importantly, nothing good.

 

I don't know your vintage, but I'm 36 and was 16 years old in 1995. That is when I got into melodic rock. I guess it was probably because the stuff on the radio was so awful, but whilst you had lived with this style of music for decade and needed an alternative whilst it disappeared from the spotlight, this was my alternative to the radio. The mid 90's is when I formed the majority and basis of my melodic rock collection.

 

As for my top 40 albums from that period, sorry to disappoint again mate, not even a hint of a crossover of any sorts. My lists from 1995 to 1999 would feature all of the below albums, for a start (and that's just skirting across the surface);

 

Attraction - Get Up N' Shake

Amaze Me - Wonderland

Amaze Me - Amaze Me

Stun Leer - Once

Arti Tisi - Arti Tisi

Danger Danger - Four The Hard Way

Steelhouse Lane - Metallic Blue

Bon Jovi - These Days

Amaze Me - Dream On

Pretty Boy Floyd - Porn Stars

Casanova - Heroes

Jaded Heart - IV

Steelhouse Lane - Slaves Of The New World

Fiore - Today Till Tomorrow

Frontline - Heroes

CITA - Heat Of Emotion

Emerald Rain - Broken Saviours

TNT - Transistor

Emerald Rain - Age Of Innocence

Gunshy - Mayday

Fiore - Body Electric

Big Mouth - Hands Of Time

Loud & Clear - Loud & Clear

Pink Cream 69 - Electrified

Harem Scarem - Believe

Big Bad Wolf - Big Bad Wolf

Newman - One Step Closer

Savannah - Savannah

Kick - Consider This

Tower City - Little Bit Of Fire

Ransom - Trouble In Paradise

Hotwire - Hotwire

Monarch - Monarch

The Storm - Eye Of The Storm

Metropolis - The Power Of Night

Charade - Charade

Michael Morales - That's The Way

Crystal Ball - In The Beginning

Hotwire - Face Another Day

Harem Scarem - B-Side Collection

Pretty Maids - Spooked

So just as you say why bother listening to something sang in another language even if the music is great when you can just out something else on. I say why put on an album that is trying really hard to sound like countless albums I own but with inferior songs, crap productions etc.

 

I'm not pooing on the mid-late 90s it's just my palate was developed on the best and the best is hard to live up to once an era ends. So you have to move onto something else if you want new music.

 

So what did you hear in '95 that made you seek out more music?

 

Wowser, I'd just have to disagree and say I don't think the stuff I listed here is inferior to the 80's stuff, in any way shape or form. If it was, I'd agree with you 100% and wouldn't bother with it. Amaze Me, Stun Leer, Arti Tisi, early Jaded Heart, Pretty Maids, Frontline, early Emerald Rain, Danger Danger, Steelhouse Lane... jeezus wept mate, you're talking A-Grade stuff here, imo.

 

Boring as it is, my story in 1995 all began with Bon Jovi... and I have my brother to thank for that. My brothers and I grew up on stuff like 1927, Roxus (!!), Belinda Carlisle, Roxette, Icehouse, Bryan Adams... they were our favourites, but we were young and just listened to RAGE and what was in the charts at the time. Didn't actively pursue music. So it was about 1995 when I first heard Bon Jovi via my brother and thought, I really like that and I want to hear more. So I got all Bon Jovi's stuff, then Poison... and it all just snowballed from there onwards.

 

 

There is some stuff on your list that I'm going to check out as I never had them in the day or now like Attraction, Arti Tisi & Gunshy.

 

 

Arti Tisi was never officially released. You can find the files on the line.

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Arti Tisi is good but the production on those files is pretty poor.

 

Id agree with Dahun that aside from a few obvious titles most of the stuff on Geoff s list is inferior to 80s material.

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Still can't honestly believe that no one at any time released that Arti Tisi stuff officially.

 

When you consider some of those hidden gems that finally saw the light of day, after even longer shelf lives (Danger Danger, Vain, Marchello, Garrison etc.) it's a real shame that it never happened for that Arti Tisi album. I feel like, with the masters, anyone who knows what they're doing could release this album with a pretty awesome polish.

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What the hell is this topic about? Started about Japanese pre teen girls..now its about Geoff... o wait... i understand now

 

Yep. Japanese pre teen girls and Geoff. All of them useless...

 

:whistle:

 

 

Useless, or handsome?

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What the hell is this topic about? Started about Japanese pre teen girls..now its about Geoff... o wait... i understand now

 

Yep. Japanese pre teen girls and Geoff. All of them useless...

 

:whistle:

 

 

Useless, or handsome?

 

 

You can't call the teen girls handsome, so useless it is.

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What the hell is this topic about? Started about Japanese pre teen girls..now its about Geoff... o wait... i understand now

Yep. Japanese pre teen girls and Geoff. All of them useless...

 

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Useless, or handsome?

You can't call the teen girls handsome, so useless it is.

Ha! Deduced.

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What was this thread supposed to be about again? :whistle:

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Wasn't this thread about that Ugandan band who don't sing in English? And why do they have a transvestite in the band who doesn't seem to play an instrument? And who the hell is Randy? Is he actually going to tour with the band this time? And is he even actually male?

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Your ears get tuned to different things. My tuned into more metal and opened up to non-English. By the sounds of things you got into the more modern rock? From these ears and the comment about that period being small I think you let your ears get adjusted to something else as well.

Would love to see your best of 1990-1999 top 40 albums and I bet we would have a massive crossover of albums, then separate and then start to come back together towards the end of the decade.

 

Haha, sorry to disappoint on many levels, mate.

 

I didn't get into modern rock until about 2000, completely based on SR-71 and Marvelous 3 alone. The only modern rock I have from the mid-90's would be Goo Goo Dolls, Fuel and Matchbox 20... few enough bands to list on one hand - and more importantly, nothing good.

 

I don't know your vintage, but I'm 36 and was 16 years old in 1995. That is when I got into melodic rock. I guess it was probably because the stuff on the radio was so awful, but whilst you had lived with this style of music for decade and needed an alternative whilst it disappeared from the spotlight, this was my alternative to the radio. The mid 90's is when I formed the majority and basis of my melodic rock collection.

 

As for my top 40 albums from that period, sorry to disappoint again mate, not even a hint of a crossover of any sorts. My lists from 1995 to 1999 would feature all of the below albums, for a start (and that's just skirting across the surface);

 

Attraction - Get Up N' Shake
Amaze Me - Wonderland
Amaze Me - Amaze Me
Stun Leer - Once
Arti Tisi - Arti Tisi
Danger Danger - Four The Hard Way
Steelhouse Lane - Metallic Blue
Bon Jovi - These Days
Amaze Me - Dream On
Pretty Boy Floyd - Porn Stars
Casanova - Heroes
Jaded Heart - IV
Steelhouse Lane - Slaves Of The New World
Fiore - Today Till Tomorrow
Frontline - Heroes
CITA - Heat Of Emotion
Emerald Rain - Broken Saviours
TNT - Transistor
Emerald Rain - Age Of Innocence
Gunshy - Mayday
Fiore - Body Electric
Big Mouth - Hands Of Time
Loud & Clear - Loud & Clear
Pink Cream 69 - Electrified
Harem Scarem - Believe
Big Bad Wolf - Big Bad Wolf
Newman - One Step Closer
Savannah - Savannah
Kick - Consider This…
Tower City - Little Bit Of Fire
Ransom - Trouble In Paradise
Hotwire - Hotwire
Monarch - Monarch
The Storm - Eye Of The Storm
Metropolis - The Power Of Night
Charade - Charade
Michael Morales - That's The Way
Crystal Ball - In The Beginning…
Hotwire - Face Another Day
Harem Scarem - B-Side Collection
Pretty Maids - Spooked

 

 

 

 

Buddy, killer list there. I guess you typed it based solely on intuition (where's their album btw? :tumbsup: ) instead of recorded observations in some spreadsheets, no?

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Your ears get tuned to different things. My tuned into more metal and opened up to non-English. By the sounds of things you got into the more modern rock? From these ears and the comment about that period being small I think you let your ears get adjusted to something else as well.

Would love to see your best of 1990-1999 top 40 albums and I bet we would have a massive crossover of albums, then separate and then start to come back together towards the end of the decade.

Haha, sorry to disappoint on many levels, mate.

 

I didn't get into modern rock until about 2000, completely based on SR-71 and Marvelous 3 alone. The only modern rock I have from the mid-90's would be Goo Goo Dolls, Fuel and Matchbox 20... few enough bands to list on one hand - and more importantly, nothing good.

 

I don't know your vintage, but I'm 36 and was 16 years old in 1995. That is when I got into melodic rock. I guess it was probably because the stuff on the radio was so awful, but whilst you had lived with this style of music for decade and needed an alternative whilst it disappeared from the spotlight, this was my alternative to the radio. The mid 90's is when I formed the majority and basis of my melodic rock collection.

 

As for my top 40 albums from that period, sorry to disappoint again mate, not even a hint of a crossover of any sorts. My lists from 1995 to 1999 would feature all of the below albums, for a start (and that's just skirting across the surface);

 

Attraction - Get Up N' Shake

Amaze Me - Wonderland

Amaze Me - Amaze Me

Stun Leer - Once

Arti Tisi - Arti Tisi

Danger Danger - Four The Hard Way

Steelhouse Lane - Metallic Blue

Bon Jovi - These Days

Amaze Me - Dream On

Pretty Boy Floyd - Porn Stars

Casanova - Heroes

Jaded Heart - IV

Steelhouse Lane - Slaves Of The New World

Fiore - Today Till Tomorrow

Frontline - Heroes

CITA - Heat Of Emotion

Emerald Rain - Broken Saviours

TNT - Transistor

Emerald Rain - Age Of Innocence

Gunshy - Mayday

Fiore - Body Electric

Big Mouth - Hands Of Time

Loud & Clear - Loud & Clear

Pink Cream 69 - Electrified

Harem Scarem - Believe

Big Bad Wolf - Big Bad Wolf

Newman - One Step Closer

Savannah - Savannah

Kick - Consider This

Tower City - Little Bit Of Fire

Ransom - Trouble In Paradise

Hotwire - Hotwire

Monarch - Monarch

The Storm - Eye Of The Storm

Metropolis - The Power Of Night

Charade - Charade

Michael Morales - That's The Way

Crystal Ball - In The Beginning

Hotwire - Face Another Day

Harem Scarem - B-Side Collection

Pretty Maids - Spooked

 

 

Buddy, killer list there. I guess you typed it based solely on intuition (where's their album btw? :tumbsup: ) instead of recorded observations in some spreadsheets, no?

Good call. Considering how much he loves that album, I'm amazed it's not there.

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Your ears get tuned to different things. My tuned into more metal and opened up to non-English. By the sounds of things you got into the more modern rock? From these ears and the comment about that period being small I think you let your ears get adjusted to something else as well.

Would love to see your best of 1990-1999 top 40 albums and I bet we would have a massive crossover of albums, then separate and then start to come back together towards the end of the decade.

Haha, sorry to disappoint on many levels, mate.

 

I didn't get into modern rock until about 2000, completely based on SR-71 and Marvelous 3 alone. The only modern rock I have from the mid-90's would be Goo Goo Dolls, Fuel and Matchbox 20... few enough bands to list on one hand - and more importantly, nothing good.

 

I don't know your vintage, but I'm 36 and was 16 years old in 1995. That is when I got into melodic rock. I guess it was probably because the stuff on the radio was so awful, but whilst you had lived with this style of music for decade and needed an alternative whilst it disappeared from the spotlight, this was my alternative to the radio. The mid 90's is when I formed the majority and basis of my melodic rock collection.

 

As for my top 40 albums from that period, sorry to disappoint again mate, not even a hint of a crossover of any sorts. My lists from 1995 to 1999 would feature all of the below albums, for a start (and that's just skirting across the surface);

 

Attraction - Get Up N' Shake

Amaze Me - Wonderland

Amaze Me - Amaze Me

Stun Leer - Once

Arti Tisi - Arti Tisi

Danger Danger - Four The Hard Way

Steelhouse Lane - Metallic Blue

Bon Jovi - These Days

Amaze Me - Dream On

Pretty Boy Floyd - Porn Stars

Casanova - Heroes

Jaded Heart - IV

Steelhouse Lane - Slaves Of The New World

Fiore - Today Till Tomorrow

Frontline - Heroes

CITA - Heat Of Emotion

Emerald Rain - Broken Saviours

TNT - Transistor

Emerald Rain - Age Of Innocence

Gunshy - Mayday

Fiore - Body Electric

Big Mouth - Hands Of Time

Loud & Clear - Loud & Clear

Pink Cream 69 - Electrified

Harem Scarem - Believe

Big Bad Wolf - Big Bad Wolf

Newman - One Step Closer

Savannah - Savannah

Kick - Consider This

Tower City - Little Bit Of Fire

Ransom - Trouble In Paradise

Hotwire - Hotwire

Monarch - Monarch

The Storm - Eye Of The Storm

Metropolis - The Power Of Night

Charade - Charade

Michael Morales - That's The Way

Crystal Ball - In The Beginning

Hotwire - Face Another Day

Harem Scarem - B-Side Collection

Pretty Maids - Spooked

So just as you say why bother listening to something sang in another language even if the music is great when you can just out something else on. I say why put on an album that is trying really hard to sound like countless albums I own but with inferior songs, crap productions etc.

 

I'm not pooing on the mid-late 90s it's just my palate was developed on the best and the best is hard to live up to once an era ends. So you have to move onto something else if you want new music.

 

So what did you hear in '95 that made you seek out more music?

 

Wowser, I'd just have to disagree and say I don't think the stuff I listed here is inferior to the 80's stuff, in any way shape or form. If it was, I'd agree with you 100% and wouldn't bother with it. Amaze Me, Stun Leer, Arti Tisi, early Jaded Heart, Pretty Maids, Frontline, early Emerald Rain, Danger Danger, Steelhouse Lane... jeezus wept mate, you're talking A-Grade stuff here, imo.

 

Boring as it is, my story in 1995 all began with Bon Jovi... and I have my brother to thank for that. My brothers and I grew up on stuff like 1927, Roxus (!!), Belinda Carlisle, Roxette, Icehouse, Bryan Adams... they were our favourites, but we were young and just listened to RAGE and what was in the charts at the time. Didn't actively pursue music. So it was about 1995 when I first heard Bon Jovi via my brother and thought, I really like that and I want to hear more. So I got all Bon Jovi's stuff, then Poison... and it all just snowballed from there onwards.

 

Jeezus wept... love it!

 

I won't go into dissecting your list as I agree some very cool albums. A quick opinion on some and why they aren't great IMO:

- Harem Scarem - everything after the debut was a disappointment plain and simple. They've consistently had a few great songs on each release but never got close to the debut. So if you grabbed the debut when it was released when I did, lived with it for a couple of years and then picked everything else up as it was released...well.... disappointment.

- Emerald Rain, Amaze Me, Steelhouse Lane etc. - all very good. Just not as good as the stuff below.

- The Storm, Ransom etc. - these types of albums I just don't feel like listening to often as good as they are. Maybe too light for me?

 

I guess growing up with 1927, Roxus (!!), Belinda Carlisle, Roxette, Icehouse, Bryan Adams would mean you lean to much lighter material than me. I can only do very early Bryan Adams (Summer, Kids Wanna Rock) and Roxus.... the others unfortunately make my stomach turn. Great that even so we can have a cross over like we do and kudos for you for getting into it at the time you did!

 

There is some stuff on your list that I'm going to check out as I never had them in the day or now like Attraction, Arti Tisi & Gunshy.

 

Out of interest here's a quick lot of albums I rated highlight from 95-99. It pretty much boils down to half hard rock and half metal:

 

Zeno – Zenology

Bon Jovi – These Days

Valentine – Valentine

Phantom’s Opera – Phantom’s Opera

CITA – Relapse of Reason & Heat of Emotion

Sykes – Out Of My Tree & Loveland

TSO – Xmas Eve & Other Stories

House of Shakira – Lint

Danger Danger – Four The Hard Way

Westworld - Westworld

Von Groove – Chameleon

Pink Cream 69 - Electrified

Jaded Heart – IV

Shakra – Moving Force

Gotthard – Open

Valentine & Valensia – V

Damned Nation – Road of Desire

WASP – Still Not Black Enough

Savatage – Dead Winter Dead & Wake of Magellan

Radakka – Malice & Tranquility & Requiem For The Innocent

Royal Hunt – Moving Target, Paradox & Fear

Angra – Holy Land & Fireworks

Stratovarius – Visions

Eternity X – The Edge

Labyrinth – Return To Heaven Denied

Nightwish – Oceanborn

Balance of Power – Book of Secrets

The Sygnet – Children of the Future

Sonata Arctica - Ecliptica

Dream Theater – Scenes From A Memory

Edguy – Theatre of Salvation

Avalanch – Llanta De Un Heroe

Angel Dust – Bleed

 

 

 

 

Buddy, even if I adopt the astronomers' definition of metal, I don't see much in your list. :tumbsup:

 

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